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Post by Deleted on Sept 22, 2022 9:09:16 GMT
God I hate the emphasis on stealth. Does that let up, or does it get easier to just blast mofos in the face?
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Post by Jambowayoh on Sept 22, 2022 9:11:16 GMT
God I hate the emphasis on stealth. Does that let up, or does it get easier to just blast mofos in the face? I mentioned before but the game is very well equipped if you to go loud and blast every motherfucker you encounter. I often did. The stealth is not enforced apart from one specific section.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 22, 2022 9:16:25 GMT
OK cool. The opening section (well, after the tutorial) seems to want you to play stealthily and I'm just not sufficiently patient for it.
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Post by bichii on Sept 22, 2022 9:22:03 GMT
I never notice input lag in these games. Guess I'm happily oblivious to it and FPS games are easily my favourite type of game. Then again I enjoyed playing 2077 at 20fps on PS4 so maybe I'm easily pleased.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 22, 2022 9:27:43 GMT
Anyway I'll leave it there, I can sense I'm beginning to outrage people so I'll move on. No outrage here. I mean I've trashed two keyboards and punched a monitor since reading your comment but that's unrelated.
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Post by Duffking on Sept 22, 2022 10:12:57 GMT
The game seems better for input lag than most Arkane games to me.
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Post by Vortex on Sept 23, 2022 12:12:39 GMT
Oh man, this shit is gooood. having a blast (literally sometimes). Got me a slab, thanks juliana invader, plus a better(ish) gun or two. The 'proper' vs human Juliana encounter got me a sweet gun too, but not enough keepystuff dust, so only the slab it had to be. Currently planning on just visiting one location and having numerous poke arounds at all times to try to see what's around/pick up info. It's got an almost TF2 art style for me, or maybe it's just the colour palette. This is seriously hitting those explore stuff buttons and has more than enough mysterious shit to investigate too. I think this is going to be one of my favourite games in a long time. whether I can work out how to do it all in a day, I'm not convinced about, but I'll have fun trying. I think Dying light 2 is getting binned for this.
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Post by Jambowayoh on Sept 23, 2022 12:20:48 GMT
The right call.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 23, 2022 12:34:38 GMT
Amen
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Post by Jambowayoh on Sept 23, 2022 14:29:02 GMT
I don't want to derail the thread but man Dying Light 2 was disappointing after really enjoying the first one even with its jankness which added to its charm but the jank and very repetitive gameplay of 2 is kinda unacceptable in the year of our lord 2022.
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Post by alastair on Sept 23, 2022 15:23:27 GMT
OK cool. The opening section (well, after the tutorial) seems to want you to play stealthily and I'm just not sufficiently patient for it. You can deffo do a 'kill everyone' run through. I'm pretty sure I did a few times.
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Post by Jambowayoh on Sept 23, 2022 15:27:30 GMT
OK cool. The opening section (well, after the tutorial) seems to want you to play stealthily and I'm just not sufficiently patient for it. You can deffo do a 'kill everyone' run through. I'm pretty sure I did a few times. Just to clarify user Alastair isn't talking about the game. A different game perhaps...The most dangerous game of all.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 23, 2022 22:45:19 GMT
Quite enjoying it now I've given up caring who gets wasted and how.
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Post by Chopsen on Sept 23, 2022 23:23:44 GMT
My approach was always to kill every single motherfucking one of them. Often by accident. You sometimes have to know when to run away and hide for a bit, but it's definitely doable without caring about stealth.
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Post by baihu1983 on Sept 24, 2022 12:55:09 GMT
Yeah I kill everyone.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 24, 2022 13:18:25 GMT
Patch seems to have fixed the thing what was making me have to disconnect the internet before starting. Controls seem more responsive now as well so dunno if they'd just put an old version on Plus or something.
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Post by Phattso on Sept 24, 2022 13:45:03 GMT
In terms of stealth, for me it was all about optimising for time. Early doors skipping an area full of bad guys could shave a bunch of minutes off of my objective (usually getting a slab). Later in the game, when you're a killing machine, it was often easier to mow them down than take the longer stealthier route. But as said above, on the many, many occasions I had to "go loud" the game was almost eager for me to do so and I had a blast.
I've started jonesing for another playthrough, but I've just filled my plate with PS5 exclusives that I should probably batter through first...
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Post by askew on Sept 24, 2022 15:03:08 GMT
Yeah, offing the Visionaries in the 'cool' way often needs to be done stealthily. And being loud also tends (coincidence?) to draw in Julianna invasions which can be tricky.
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Post by bichii on Sept 24, 2022 15:50:59 GMT
Love the setting the vibe the characters the level design. My word tough the a.i., I think I've done the first five levels maybe and it's so easy just to kill everything just by manipulating the a.i. Only came close to dying once when a turret saw me before I finished hacking it. In the library basically the whole level came at me but I climbed onto a window ledge and slowly killed them one by one as the a.i. couldn't work out how to get me.
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Post by Vortex on Sept 24, 2022 16:54:03 GMT
I have died lots.
Most recently, i got looped after killing juliana and getting some really cool shit too.
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Fuck. Should have just legged it to the exit afterwards instead of pushing on...
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Post by Vortex on Sept 24, 2022 16:55:25 GMT
At least even just poking about a level to see what's happening or has changed gets you info to act on later. It's a lot of fun, even if /when you fail.
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Post by bichii on Sept 25, 2022 13:52:48 GMT
Still not sure yet. I assume I'm early days as only killed two of them but the a.i. is shocking, it's still so easy just to kill the whole map with the a.i. like this.
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Post by starchildhypocrethes on Sept 25, 2022 15:11:55 GMT
Considering you have to do the whole thing in one go, I imagine it would be an absolute pain in the ass if the AI was really good though.
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Post by Jambowayoh on Sept 25, 2022 15:24:33 GMT
Still not sure yet. I assume I'm early days as only killed two of them but the a.i. is shocking, it's still so easy just to kill the whole map with the a.i. like this. It's not really that kind of game, the AI is there for you to play around with using your abilities, it's supposed to be fodder on your way to your objectives.
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Post by Phattso on Sept 25, 2022 16:23:42 GMT
Yeah, it's no different to dumb as shit AI on patrols in a Souls Game or whatever. Mostly just cannon fodder. The interest comes in the systems - set an alarm off here, a door over there shuts, routes have to change, etc. etc. As you get later into the game you'll find some places where going loud doesn't really help you. And - as Starchild says - it'd be an unbearable game if they were all ninjas.
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Post by monkman5000 on Sept 26, 2022 11:40:07 GMT
Enjoying this so far, but have had a couple of crashes towards the end of missions that have meant losing progress (PS5). Surely that should have been ironed out a year after release. Making me reluctant to continue which is a shame.
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Post by Vortex on Sept 27, 2022 11:49:23 GMT
Fucking hell, last night i seemed to achieve the square root of fuck all, despite moving things on a bit. However, I got looped 3 time losing a lot of stuff Mostly due to mobs or Juliana who is now appearing more regularly, even if there is no visionary there.
Is there a point when mobs become tougher in the story? I was wasting them easily before, but now they seem to have a shield and are taking a few shots with the shotgun even when up close. I may remove all my personal trinkets and see if one of those is the issue. I have a purple one that makes me like a rock or something and I wonder if it's done the same for them too (although the description doesn't say that!).
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Post by Deleted on Sept 27, 2022 11:54:44 GMT
If anything the mobs became easier. I was like John Wick headshotting whole waves of them without getting touched.
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Post by Vortex on Sept 27, 2022 12:01:44 GMT
That's what it was like up until last night, so either i have done something by swapping personal trinkets or weapons about, or something has changed behind the scenes!
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Post by bichii on Sept 27, 2022 14:04:41 GMT
At the point where I have all slabs infused and four or five purple guns. Still don't see any need for stealth. Just kill every thing on the map every level. I'm sure seeing some of the leads I now have I'll need to stealth certain bits maybe if I'm to complete the loop. Only died once still at the party but then just went straight back and killed every single guest at the party.
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