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Post by cubby on Apr 16, 2023 18:40:18 GMT
Huh, that phase is supposed to stop?
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Post by ozthegweat on Apr 27, 2023 10:38:23 GMT
Well, puppy blues is real. At first, everything was great, and now problems are appearing everywhere. - She tries to eat everything off the street (cigarette buds are EVERYWHERE), ignores us when we forbid it, refuses to exchange for a treat and swallows it quicker than we can pry her mouth open.
- She bites the harness when we try to put it on, the leash, and the towel when we try to dry her paws after a walk.
- She turns into a maniac when we try to brush her or clean her eyes.
- She refuses to go to sleep during the day and becomes more and more agitated until we have to put her into her crate.
Why did we want a puppy again?
Also, anyone know a good puppy training app?
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Post by Deleted on Apr 27, 2023 10:41:06 GMT
Puppy classes help, and the quicker you can get her I to a routine the better.
And be consistent!
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Post by Deleted on Apr 27, 2023 10:41:53 GMT
And crate is important for down time sleeping, even if she gets agitated. Stick with it and ride it out.
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Post by wunty on Apr 27, 2023 10:44:17 GMT
Yeah, puppy classes man. Really. It's the way to go. How much of what they teach you you actually want to follow up with is up to you, but you will have the tools to look at what behaviour you don't want and be able to train accordingly.
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Post by dogbot on Apr 27, 2023 10:49:54 GMT
Dogs Trust do excellent puppy training classes.
It's a process, though. You need to keep at it, be consistent and patient, it'll take time.
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Post by cubby on Apr 27, 2023 11:23:16 GMT
Some thoughts.
Yep, puppy blues is going to happen. And it might happen quite a lot for the first year so be prepared for a long slog. Consistency is key, as has been said. If you're consistent things become a habit for her and that really helps build foundations for everything.
She's very young right, still in that early socialisation stage? I would try to keep the admonishments to a minimum at this stage and encourage anything you think she's doing well with positivity, even praise/affection or a toy if food isn't getting her attention.
We've really struggled with using food as a reward, and sometimes you'll need to bring the big guns out. Sausages and cheese, when you really want to have a focused training session. But then sometimes even that won't work, because they're too distracted.
The basics of training are to build up, step by step. Even sit can be too much sometimes, so you first try when there are no distractions, then when they're doing it really well you go to doing it with a mild distraction, until you've got that down. And just keep going in very slight increments.
But importantly, don't make every moment a training moment, don't be tempted to have every walk be perfect.
Also it sounds like she hasn't learnt how to chill out yet. Again she's young so not surprising. Is she getting attention from all the stuff she's currently doing? If so that's rewarding her current behaviour. You'll need to have periods where nothing happens, and doesn't happen even if she asks for it incessantly.
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Post by cubby on Apr 27, 2023 11:28:45 GMT
As for eating stuff off the street, Dud did that loads early on. The only way that worked was to yank him away from it, and praise him any time he chose not to go near it. But there was a 6 month period where I was constantly scanning the floor for anything he might try to go for. Eventually he stopped and now he's fine, maybe it was growing up, but I like to think that it was some of my work too.
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Post by wunty on Apr 27, 2023 11:59:13 GMT
Yeah same with wee Penny. She doesn't do it any more. Unless it's a stick. If it's a stick she will literally tear you to shreds if you're between her and it. We do stick throwing in the back garden and my god if she knows it's about to happen she nearly takes off with excitement.
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Post by Dougs on Apr 27, 2023 12:24:48 GMT
Ha, safe to say, Bob has never grown out of the eating things off the floor phase. And being part spaniel, gets very possessive about things he has, no chance getting it off him.
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Post by ozthegweat on Apr 27, 2023 20:24:34 GMT
Thanks everybody for all the advice. After venting here earlier today, things (and our mood) improved considerably.
Exchanging crap from the street for treats worked great today after we changed our technique, now we place the treat in the flat palm of our hand, this way she drops whatever she had in her mouth.
Also we discovered liver pate for dogs in a tube, the first time we tried it was also the first time we were able to clean her eyes without any fuss, she loves the stuff.
We are doing puppy classes already, today was our second time (cute side story: the 9-year-old niece was asking what the dog learned today, and thought we bring the dog there in the morning, she stays with the teacher during the day and we go get her in the afternoon).
Probably the most important thing is that we need to tell ourselves repeatedly to go easy on her, she's only 11 weeks old…
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Post by Ulythium on Apr 27, 2023 20:36:26 GMT
ozthegweatGlad to hear things (and your mood!) are looking up. Hang in there, dude - it can be a major pain in the dick at this stage, as you already know, but it's oh so worthwhile in the long run.
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Post by cubby on Apr 27, 2023 20:54:52 GMT
Oh bloody hell, I was assuming she was quite a bit older than that! She's still fresh out the oven dude.
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Post by wunty on Apr 27, 2023 21:26:41 GMT
Yeah man she’s really young. It’s a marathon not a sprint. Give her time and just roll with it. You’ll enjoy the time with her more. Fwiw getting a puppy was one of the best decisions I ever made.
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Post by Goban on Apr 28, 2023 6:56:43 GMT
Had my latest rescue dog for 4 weeks now, and he's mostly great. Good off the lead with fantastic recal. Friendly but respectful with other dogs and is overall a lovely natured beast. And utterly devoted to me.
But, he's utterly mental round the house, absolutely no boundaries. Getting home its 'what's he chewed today?' Also he's so overjoyed to see me he pisses everywhere.
Getting a little better every day though, and he takes a telling off well, he knows he's done wrong. So just a matter of keeping at it.
Overall, a fantastic beastie.
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Post by Dougs on Apr 28, 2023 7:00:38 GMT
It's funny, when I used to visit Bob at my mum's, he would be the same. Weeing everywhere, generally tearing up the place. Now he's with me, he's fine and much calmer. He also used to chew/eat anything at hers too. Nothing like that at ours (other than cat food, which is a constant battle).
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Post by dfunked on Apr 28, 2023 7:05:49 GMT
The auditors are going to have a field day with the lack of dog tax payments on show here...
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Post by Dougs on Apr 28, 2023 7:12:46 GMT
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Post by Vortex on Apr 28, 2023 7:22:44 GMT
I can practically hear the screeching of tyres and engine revving/paws scrabbling as he turns onto the road and takes off!
Great action shot. 😃
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Post by cubby on Apr 28, 2023 7:25:10 GMT
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Post by dogbot on Apr 28, 2023 7:50:55 GMT
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Post by ozthegweat on Apr 28, 2023 8:09:27 GMT
Oh bloody hell, I was assuming she was quite a bit older than that! She's still fresh out the oven dude. Yeah yeah, I know. I partly blame some of the books we bought that tell you "don't overdo it, be realistic, but after 3 weeks the dog should know sit, stay, down, look, come, drop it, should not bite your fingers anymore, should have had contact with the vet, children, visitors, be used to a crate and be mostly potty trained" and I'm like WTF |
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Post by dogbot on Apr 28, 2023 8:19:07 GMT
Oh bloody hell, I was assuming she was quite a bit older than that! She's still fresh out the oven dude. Yeah yeah, I know. I partly blame some of the books we bought that tell you "don't overdo it, be realistic, but after 3 weeks the dog should know sit, stay, down, look, come, drop it, should not bite your fingers anymore, should have had contact with the vet, children, visitors, be used to a crate and be mostly potty trained" and I'm like WTF A hearty lol to that here. In a perfect world a professional trainer might achieve that in 3 weeks, but I don't know anyone who took on an 8 week old puppy who did, including myself and many other people who've had lots of dogs before. |
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Post by Dougs on Apr 28, 2023 9:02:13 GMT
Yeah, that's what I would put down as..
Ambitious.
Can't take credit for the action shot, that was my wife's handy work!
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Post by wunty on Apr 28, 2023 9:07:26 GMT
It's a great shot regardless Dougs. His happy little face running towards us! Similarly cubby I love how happy your wee guy always looks. he's having a fucking brilliant time. ozthegweat Penny does that sleep pose as well. I love. We call her our little rabbit when she does it. dogbot Can't leave you out. That's a brilliant pic that you could easily run a caption competition for. |
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Post by ozthegweat on Apr 28, 2023 9:10:37 GMT
Yeah yeah, I know. I partly blame some of the books we bought that tell you "don't overdo it, be realistic, but after 3 weeks the dog should know sit, stay, down, look, come, drop it, should not bite your fingers anymore, should have had contact with the vet, children, visitors, be used to a crate and be mostly potty trained" and I'm like WTF A hearty lol to that here. In a perfect world a professional trainer might achieve that in 3 weeks, but I don't know anyone who took on an 8 week old puppy who did, including myself and many other people who've had lots of dogs before. Good to know, thanks. I thought "if that's not ambitious, then what is" |
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Post by wunty on Apr 28, 2023 9:13:19 GMT
Yeah our trainer was basically "So all this stuff you're learning here and I'm telling you, you'll still be working on in 12 months". I would be very sceptical of anything that said "3 weeks you'll have your dog doing x,y and z" becuase it all goes out the window once adolescence hits anyway.
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