Dune

That's all fair. I didn't mind 3 sooo much but my wife commented on it straight after

I mean it's just like any "boy learns skills, saves world" book in that regard. It's pretty common in YA/fantasy stuff to have the main character be a master bladesman, know several languages, command entire armies etc, by the time they reach the age of 16. Which isn't to excuse it happening here, but it's such a common trope that it didn't register with me that much.

And obviously the "saves world" bit of it is pretty murky, given the whole

Honestly I'm kind of impressed that they leaned into it as hard as they did. Like obviously it's a touchy subject right now (also: the villain's name is Vladimir! Eh? Eh?), but it's in the source material!

Sounds like they dropped the esoteric stuff which gives the novel its intriguing depth and played up the action instead. I can understand that - the second part of the book is very different to the first and they are going for broad appeal. Shame to see Fenring is missing though, he’s so interesting and an important contrast to Paul.

Can’t wait for the Youtube vids. ‘Ten CRAZY things from the Dune novel that were CUT from the film!

Ooh, I forgot one other:

I can understand why they dropped the water of life conversion stuff, the bit in the book where it time jumps to Paul was really confusing for a few pages. But it's such an important dynamic towards the end that there's a risk of losing the context of some of Paul's decisions and how he's seen by the Fremen.

If they included that they’d just be accused of ripping off Matrix Reloaded (or whatever the second one was called)

The move of the discussion to the Dune thread from the terrible opinions one almost allowed MolarAm🔵 to get off scot-free from his comment in the latter: 

Skip right ahead to God Emperor please.

Skip right ahead to God Emperor please.

Skip right ahead to God Emperor please.

Skip right ahead to God Emperor please.

sKIp RigHT aHeAd TO gOd eMPerOr pl33z3.

This is a serious topic that warrants some earnest opinions.

Was it a breath of fresh air?

I think Chris Pratt could pull it off.

As someone who tried to read the book as a teenager in the eighties but gave up pretty quickly, I enjoyed the film but certainly felt it was flawed.

It has a weird problem in feeling it was far too slow and far too fast, sometimes at the same time. Paul doing his bit in the desert, no parallels with Jesus at all obviously, then going pretty much into a battle sequence felt like a scene had been cut, unless there was a scene and I'd nodded off.

Also how the fuck couldn't anyone see those breathing tubes in an otherwise completely featureless desert?

Anyhow on the whole I felt it was good but certainly no where near as good as the first film. It's also clearly the Empire Strikes Back of the films, there's no way WB and Legendary are going to be able not to do another film when this story is far from over. Ignoring all the other books obviously.



I don't think casting Christopher Walken was a good idea either, it's probably just a me thing but I had "Weapon of Choice" come into my head every time he was on screen. No dancing from him though.

Can't believe I missed out on an orgy...

/Pouts

Villeneuve says he wants to make one more.

I just saw it, I really enjoyed it. I understand complaints but in movie adaptations not everything has to slavishly follow the source material beat for beat. I'm just glad movies like this are being made and people are going to see them. It's wild that someone in WB thought "here, have 200mil to make these movies". I love it.