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Post by Deleted on Nov 21, 2021 9:43:55 GMT
Yeah, there can't be (m) any people left who aren't either vaccinated, infected or dead in the UK.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 21, 2021 9:44:58 GMT
I do wish mask wearing was still a thing though. We might have been able to get rid of the flu and who knows what else.
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Post by richardiox on Nov 21, 2021 9:51:07 GMT
It's a PR masterstroke by our government. By keeping figures high (say 50k cases a day since July) they have created a situation where in theory we shouldn't see a surge in cases like in western Europe as we've had our surge as a high but flat level for the last 4 months.
Boris can say "look at the surging cases the EU is having" implying they are doing worse than us. It's also weird seeing Germany go into policy panic mode when their case rates are still less than ours have been for over 16 weeks.
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Post by Youthist on Nov 21, 2021 10:26:17 GMT
I think the panic you are seeing will be the unknown of how bad it will get before it levels off in those places - uncontrolled bring down health service etc. Here, we know how fucked that level off point is and ahead on third shots, which puts UK in a better place.
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Post by richardiox on Nov 21, 2021 10:39:02 GMT
As much as I hate to admit it, from a nearest neighbours perspective at least, two of our government scientists most controversial decisions seem to have paid off.
Namely, leaving that extended gap between 1st and 2nd dose vaccines (though mine was only 7 weeks) and then the decision to allow cases to rise throughout late summer early autumn to prevent a surge and higher peak/more hospital pressure in winter.
Edit - fucking crazy that the case rate in Austria is already 125% higher than our early Jan peak and still rising.
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Post by mothercruncher on Nov 21, 2021 11:08:01 GMT
Just had combined Pfizer/flu jab. I say combined but actually it was one in each arm. Will be really pissed off if I can’t even use my OTHER hand for wanking tomorrow.
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Post by Lizard on Nov 21, 2021 18:25:35 GMT
Just had combined Pfizer/flu jab. I say combined but actually it was one in each arm. Will be really pissed off if I can’t even use my OTHER hand for wanking tomorrow. It's all right, the flu vaccine supercharges the 5G chips to stimulate you from the inside. Bill Gates' plan all along.
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Post by Reviewer on Nov 21, 2021 20:09:20 GMT
Why? In the UK we've had COVID rife amongst our population for months. Unless you think there's some sort of new variant at play, but there's been no indication of this. I know we had rising numbers but last thing we need is more people from places that have surging numbers. If you look at that graph in the link, Austria and netherlands have much higher cases. Seems a really bad idea to have people from these places before people get their boosters Having an extra hundred or two people fly in every day with it is really going to make no difference to us at all.
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Post by Psychotext on Nov 21, 2021 20:33:29 GMT
Namely, leaving that extended gap between 1st and 2nd dose vaccines (though mine was only 7 weeks) and then the decision to allow cases to rise throughout late summer early autumn to prevent a surge and higher peak/more hospital pressure in winter. Our A&E / Ambulance services have been at failure point for months. All we've done is basically guarantee we lose a whole bunch of staff to stress.
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Post by Frog on Nov 21, 2021 20:39:00 GMT
Will be really pissed off if I can’t even use my OTHER hand for wanking tomorrow. Lube up your feet and use them.
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Post by richardiox on Nov 21, 2021 21:15:42 GMT
Namely, leaving that extended gap between 1st and 2nd dose vaccines (though mine was only 7 weeks) and then the decision to allow cases to rise throughout late summer early autumn to prevent a surge and higher peak/more hospital pressure in winter. Our A&E / Ambulance services have been at failure point for months. All we've done is basically guarantee we lose a whole bunch of staff to stress. Completely and this is compounded massively by a decade+ of chronic underinvestment from the Tories. The NHS was almost (deliberately?) on its knees pre Covid. It still unfortunately comes back to permenant restrictions or sustained community transmission negated by vaccines. As we've chosen the latter it needs to be hand in hand with massive investment in our health services and the staff who work in them.
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Post by 😎 on Nov 21, 2021 21:21:07 GMT
I know we had rising numbers but last thing we need is more people from places that have surging numbers. If you look at that graph in the link, Austria and netherlands have much higher cases. Seems a really bad idea to have people from these places before people get their boosters ZOE app recently estimated 1 in 50 people having COVID in the UK. Having a handful of travellers from Europe will make precisely fuck all difference, not least because they'd be testing before getting on a plane anyway. While I agree there’s not a volume issue, you don’t have to test to enter the UK, just have a self test two days after arrival. You don’t even need to notify anyone if it’s positive, just proof of ordering a test is enough.
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Post by Dougs on Nov 21, 2021 22:03:47 GMT
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Post by Psychotext on Nov 21, 2021 22:17:04 GMT
ZOE app recently estimated 1 in 50 people having COVID in the UK. Having a handful of travellers from Europe will make precisely fuck all difference, not least because they'd be testing before getting on a plane anyway. While I agree there’s not a volume issue, you don’t have to test to enter the UK, just have a self test two days after arrival. You don’t even need to notify anyone if it’s positive, just proof of ordering a test is enough. I was unaware of that. Ridiculous.
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Post by RobEG on Nov 21, 2021 22:17:12 GMT
Hoping I can get my booster soon. 38 with second dose mid July. Are all boosters Pfizer and are we done with AZ now? I had Pfizer with no reaction other than a sore arm, so hoping for that one again.
My sister is saying she probably won’t get the booster, but her partner has been a covidiot right from the start so not really surprising.
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Post by Psychotext on Nov 21, 2021 22:31:14 GMT
All boosters are Pfizer or Moderna.
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Post by dfunked on Nov 21, 2021 22:31:22 GMT
Over 40s are only eligible from Monday, so you've still got a while before they roll it out to us younguns.
And yeah, seems to be Pfizer or nothing these days. Kind of glad that that's what I've already had two doses of!
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Post by スコットランド on Nov 21, 2021 23:33:27 GMT
Yeah, there can't be (m) any people left who aren't either vaccinated, infected or dead in the UK. Supposedly 8 million recoveries, not sure how many people have pretty low protection because of waning AZ (which seems less effective with Delta)
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Post by スコットランド on Nov 21, 2021 23:39:12 GMT
As much as I hate to admit it, from a nearest neighbours perspective at least, two of our government scientists most controversial decisions seem to have paid off. Namely, leaving that extended gap between 1st and 2nd dose vaccines (though mine was only 7 weeks) and then the decision to allow cases to rise throughout late summer early autumn to prevent a surge and higher peak/more hospital pressure in winter. Edit - fucking crazy that the case rate in Austria is already 125% higher than our early Jan peak and still rising. I wouldn't speak too soon, UK is rising steadily , long time till spring.
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Post by barchetta on Nov 21, 2021 23:48:04 GMT
Had my Pfizer booster yesterday. Arm now starting to feel normal after some pins and needles last night/this morning. Felt a bit achy today but nothing that sitting watching some footy/F1/gaming couldn't help. Felt well enough to go to a gig tonight in Derby so I guess I'm in work tomorrow!
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Post by dam on Nov 22, 2021 7:58:07 GMT
I got a Pfizer (and flu) on Saturday. Was told if I wanted Moderna I had to go to the Mosque...not sure why he said that, it seems to be the one used in local centres. Maybe the Pfizer needle is lubed with bacon grease.
Was a bit shivery last night, even with 2 fleeces and a hat. Kids pointed out I should not have been drinking cold beer, got to keep hydrated.
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Post by geefe on Nov 22, 2021 8:43:29 GMT
Yes. Warm beer hydrates you better.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 22, 2021 8:47:10 GMT
Pretty reassuring that it's mainly people who only have themselves to blame suffering at this point.
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Post by Psychotext on Nov 22, 2021 11:20:06 GMT
Yeah, there can't be (m) any people left who aren't either vaccinated, infected or dead in the UK. Supposedly 8 million recoveries, not sure how many people have pretty low protection because of waning AZ (which seems less effective with Delta) Worth noting that you can still get Delta even if you had one of the earlier versions / are vaccinated. Obviously just a chunk less likely to.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 22, 2021 11:57:51 GMT
Just back from the main vaccination centre in Stevenage. It was pretty busy and I had my booster (Moderna). Was hoping for Pfizer but no option to choose obv. She didn’t muck about sticking it in my arm either. Thought she was going to take a run up. 😁
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Post by Deleted on Nov 22, 2021 14:11:31 GMT
Just back from the main vaccination centre in Stevenage. It was pretty busy and I had my booster (Moderna). Was hoping for Pfizer but no option to choose obv. She didn’t muck about sticking it in my arm either. Thought she was going to take a run up. 😁 Moderna is "better" than Pfizer. Very similar underlying science, but you get 3 times the dose with Moderna so its producing better resistance and for longer.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 22, 2021 14:16:13 GMT
Pretty reassuring that it's mainly people who only have themselves to blame suffering at this point. Yep, that last line about if you're fit, healthy, with no underlying conditions and have been vaccinated, you might catch it, but you wont end up in ICU, needs to be rammed down some stupid people's throats.
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Post by [maven] on Nov 22, 2021 16:05:58 GMT
Same for here in Germany. Wave 4 in full effect! /wee
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Post by Deleted on Nov 22, 2021 16:39:01 GMT
Co-worker's kid has covid but he is negative but feeling unwell as found out today. Annoying thing is he called me into the smaller meeting room on friday but was sitting across medium size table, so not like it was small table. Any face to face meetings are cancelled again
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Post by robthehermit on Nov 22, 2021 16:45:35 GMT
I was in a room with several thousand people last night and from what I could see, the only ones wearing masks were the staff, two people on the row in front of me and 1 person up on the balcony. If I suddenly get struck down with the lurg then it's entirely my fault and I accept full responsibility.
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