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Post by eleven63 on Oct 27, 2021 13:46:56 GMT
Booster jab booked in for tomorrow. 6 months to the day since my second jab!
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Post by Lukus on Oct 28, 2021 17:43:18 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Oct 28, 2021 17:50:43 GMT
No more red list until shit hits the fan again
Would like to go on holiday (and should be less people) but does not seem a good idea still and I can see the UK going on more red lists as more fuckers can't even do the bare minimum. Tesco was bad today at 3pm-ish
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Post by Psychotext on Oct 28, 2021 20:08:11 GMT
Anyone know how the "proof of recent infection" is done for travel?
I have my email from the NHS saying that I tested positive, but it would take about 12 seconds for someone to make a fake version (there's no QR for verification or anything).
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Post by Dougs on Oct 28, 2021 21:41:02 GMT
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Post by Psychotext on Oct 29, 2021 10:18:02 GMT
Thanks, I was unaware it could also show that you've had the virus recently. I'll have to look into getting that setup as I have a nasty feeling that PCR might show false positives still by the time I'm due to travel next. |
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Post by Reviewer on Oct 30, 2021 15:57:13 GMT
More than 10,000 have died with covid since the start of august in the U.K..
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Post by jeepers on Oct 30, 2021 16:52:51 GMT
More than 10,000 have died with covid since the start of august in the U.K.. Yeah, but on the bright side, sandwich and coffee shops in London have profits up 58% so swings and roundabouts really. |
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Post by stuz359 on Oct 30, 2021 19:54:59 GMT
No one else is looking at the numbers, too depressing. They are determined not to and have deemed this level of deaths as acceptable. People have become desensitized to the numbers and are pretty much actively ignoring it.
I think it's just a coping mechanism. The public get quite upset if there is a sudden disaster somewhere in the world, but seem fine with ongoing mayhem if it's normalised. For example, 2001, 3000 died in a terrorist attack. In 2018 there were almost 40,000 deaths from gun violence in the US. One was a shock, one was endemic. One caused 20 years of war resulting in massive death and expense, the other 'thoughts and prayers.'
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Post by Deleted on Oct 30, 2021 20:19:31 GMT
Although deaths are still higher than anyone wants them, they're a lot lower than they were in January, when we were up to 1,800 a day. The one thing vaccines have helped with its lowering the death rate which is good, because the infection rates is nearing 100,000 a day. Infection rates are going crazy and the government really should be telling people to wear masks at least.
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Post by stuz359 on Oct 30, 2021 20:30:23 GMT
The numbers are about on par with this time last year though. Right before things went to shit. Again.
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Post by RobEG on Oct 30, 2021 20:31:15 GMT
Has anyone here done any travelling recently?
I have to go to NY for work on 8th November (1st day it’s opening, going to be carnage!). I’ve got my ‘Covid passport’ but will need a fit to fly pcr test within 72 hours of travelling.
My question - how quickly do you get the results back? I could go on Friday (5th) but by the time I get there on the 8th the 72 hours will have passed. If I do it on the sat I’m worried I wouldn’t get the results before I fly out.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 30, 2021 20:35:38 GMT
We're in a completely different situation to what we were last year though. Most models seem to think we're reaching a peak now and numbers will come down naturally.
I do still think there should be a mask mandate but any comparisons to this time last year are pointless scaremongering.
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Post by Reviewer on Oct 30, 2021 20:53:58 GMT
We’re at a similar number deaths wise but the number of cases is way higher already.
This is definitely the full push for herd immunity now, but you would think they would try to take it a bit easy on the lack of mask wearing etc. with the other winter issues hitting the NHS plus the flu likely to be more of an issue this year because of the removal of all precautions.
Still 10,000 in 3 months, and that rate not looking likely to drop this year, sounds like a big price to pay.
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Post by richardiox on Oct 30, 2021 21:02:12 GMT
Boris said just before freedom day that if deaths got to around 50k a year they would reintroduce measures. We are at 150 a day at the moment...times that by 365.
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Post by dfunked on Oct 30, 2021 21:34:57 GMT
"So we've come up with a new plan for levelling up our recovery from this absolutely dreadful cold that's been doing the rounds. Phase one will be to reintroduce mandatory mask wearing in.... Sorry, what's that? No, this is most definitely not a plan B!!!"
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Post by Sarfrin on Oct 30, 2021 22:43:50 GMT
We're in a completely different situation to what we were last year though. Most models seem to think we're reaching a peak now and numbers will come down naturally. I do still think there should be a mask mandate but any comparisons to this time last year are pointless scaremongering. I'm sure that'll be a great comfort to the families of the 50-odd thousand people who die to save their fellow citizens from being the slightest bit inconvenienced while the numbers come down naturally. This fucking country is insane. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 30, 2021 23:05:18 GMT
What's the end point though? How do we stop the people that are going to die from dying at this point? Other than vaccinating kids which I absolutely think we should be doing, everything else is just kicking the can down the lane.
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Post by Sarfrin on Oct 30, 2021 23:26:42 GMT
Vaccinating, ventilating, wearing masks. None of those things are difficult or particularly restrict what people can do. They just cost money and take a tiny bit of effort to care for your fellow human beings. (I'm not aiming this at you personally) We've managed to eliminate all sorts of nasty diseases with significant effort in the past, for example building an entire public water infrastructure to get rid of typhoid and no one seems to want to row back on that (apart from Tory MPs putting sewage straight back into the water system) so why is it now so much trouble to take simple measures to reduce the spread of a disease that's killing hundreds of people a week? The end point is that we live with it by taking a few more public health precautions. Just like we decided to permanently clean up our shitty drinking water.
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Post by スコットランド on Oct 30, 2021 23:28:09 GMT
What's the end point though? How do we stop the people that are going to die from dying at this point? Other than vaccinating kids which I absolutely think we should be doing, everything else is just kicking the can down the lane. By continuing to use sensible measures such as mask wearing, use of covid certificates etc. and push hard to get more people vaccinated. As herd immunity is purely theoretical, not really known and the country has a high percentage of the population jabbed with AZ with less protection than the mrna pair, it seems properly insane to have no restrictions. I really don't get it. |
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Post by KD on Oct 30, 2021 23:30:31 GMT
It was a lot easier when the village idiot was sat in the corner of the pub alone, now they all in groups on Facebook spreading crap talking to each other.
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Post by 😎 on Oct 30, 2021 23:40:16 GMT
I seriously can’t get over the fact that any testing I need to travel back to the UK is a) done after I enter the country and b) don’t even have to report the results on. Say what you will about the shitshow in the US but at least it’s not built on a trust system.
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Post by Sarfrin on Oct 30, 2021 23:48:44 GMT
I seriously can’t get over the fact that any testing I need to travel back to the UK is a) done after I enter the country and b) don’t even have to report the results on. Say what you will about the shitshow in the US but at least it’s not built on a trust nudge, nudge, wink, wink, we'll just pretend we're doing something while collecting the money lads system. FIFY. |
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Post by khanivor on Oct 31, 2021 1:49:49 GMT
Other than the death and suffering these last 18 months, the virus is going to be devastating to our civilization. It’s shine us just how utterly thoughtless and selfish huge swathes of it are. Wall to wall cunts, in some areas.
Humanity succeeds through Pitt commonality and will to endure for the greater good.
That ideal has been fucked to a ragged, bloody and very public death.
/climate change drops trou
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Post by Reviewer on Oct 31, 2021 6:33:32 GMT
Boris said just before freedom day that if deaths got to around 50k a year they would reintroduce measures. We are at 150 a day at the moment...times that by 365. Boris lied?! I don’t believe it. |
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Post by Psychotext on Oct 31, 2021 10:44:33 GMT
Has anyone here done any travelling recently? I have to go to NY for work on 8th November (1st day it’s opening, going to be carnage!). I’ve got my ‘Covid passport’ but will need a fit to fly pcr test within 72 hours of travelling. My question - how quickly do you get the results back? I could go on Friday (5th) but by the time I get there on the 8th the 72 hours will have passed. If I do it on the sat I’m worried I wouldn’t get the results before I fly out. I've always had them back within 24 hours, and in your case I'd almost certainly do it on the Saturday. Not least because it gives you some leeway on delays etc. If the shit hits the fan you could get a rapid PCR (3 hours) done Monday morning. Pricey, but I assume your work would be paying. I'm a bit confused though... from what I've seen the USA is only requiring an antigen test pre-departure. |
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Post by mothercruncher on Oct 31, 2021 13:32:58 GMT
Got pinged via, I presume, a flight back from Spain last week, ordered 3 PCR tests for the house. We faffed around for 45 minutes with apps and the various test components to then find one kit didn’t have the security seal sticker it needs and the other didn’t have the return postage label, both obviously invalid. We need people to still buy into this process, if this is happening a lot I can sympathise with people just not bothering with the hassle.
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Post by suicida on Oct 31, 2021 17:44:18 GMT
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Post by Dougs on Oct 31, 2021 17:49:33 GMT
I concur with your summary. Hatstand, the lot of them.
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Post by Aunt Alison on Oct 31, 2021 17:50:39 GMT
You have to wonder how these people process information and what the world must look like to them
It's such an alien outlook that you can't even get into their heads
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