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Post by 😎 on Jan 4, 2022 23:46:45 GMT
I’m not sure how that changes what I said. Bringing in measures is fine. You can do that without going “haha fuckers got no choice now, have you? lololol”
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Post by elstoof on Jan 4, 2022 23:46:49 GMT
Utterly pointless hard-man talk is no way to introduce sensible safety measures
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Post by cubby on Jan 4, 2022 23:53:58 GMT
French elections coming up innit, the French love a tough guy.
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Post by sport✅ on Jan 4, 2022 23:55:14 GMT
Fukin ave em, Maccers!
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Post by 😎 on Jan 5, 2022 0:02:43 GMT
French elections coming up innit, the French love a tough guy. Pretty much. Wonder if they’ll have another riot.
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Post by technoish on Jan 5, 2022 0:16:12 GMT
What's the latest
stats t a t s
on whether being vaccinated or not inhibits transmission? Hasn't it basically made no difference since Delta? So, basically the unvaccinated are just putting themselves at risk (of covid - not counting using up healthcare capacity).
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Post by Worlds on Jan 5, 2022 1:21:17 GMT
Got bored reading some responses 2 pages back but in a nutshell;
We ABSOLUTELY should be going back to normal, at least in a month or two.
It’s over. COVID is on its way out. It’s now a mild cold.
You’re going to see all the charts continue to dip.
It’s absolutely pathetic now. Millions upon millions of workers and young people are having their lives damaged significantly for what is now a cold.
And why are we doing this? For old people.
The old RICH people who can sit at home and stay in comfortably.
It’s time to let the nation get on and if we really have to do something; keep the elderly on lockdown for two more months.
Whoever in here saying otherwise, you’re mad. You love panic and fear. You need to watch carefully to what happens over the next 6 months because I GUARANTEE it is the beginning of the end.
There will be no increase in deaths now. It’s time to go back to normal.
BUT, I would say, if you have cold or symptoms, take it easy. Don’t rush out. Recover because it’s likely COVID.
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Post by 😎 on Jan 5, 2022 2:11:46 GMT
In case it wasn’t clear, that was a joke/sarcasm riffing off cubby’s tough guy post. I figured my concerns about being tough on polarized groups causing them to dig deeper would make it clear that I don’t actually want any rioting.
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Post by grey_matters on Jan 5, 2022 2:19:19 GMT
In case it wasn’t clear, that was a joke/sarcasm riffing off cubby’s tough guy post. I figured my concerns about being tough on polarized groups causing them to dig deeper would make it clear that I don’t actually want any rioting. Fair enough, I'm tired and misread things. Apologies to both.
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Post by 😎 on Jan 5, 2022 2:20:54 GMT
All good. I’ve had off days recently myself and should probably stop mobile posting off the top of my head.
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Post by elstoof on Jan 5, 2022 6:50:16 GMT
French elections coming up innit, the French love a tough guy. Pretty much. Wonder if they’ll have another riot.
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Post by Dougs on Jan 5, 2022 6:58:33 GMT
What's the latest stats t a t s on whether being vaccinated or not inhibits transmission? Hasn't it basically made no difference since Delta? So, basically the unvaccinated are just putting themselves at risk (of covid - not counting using up healthcare capacity). I think there is still some impact, just lessening. The anti-vax/mask/lockdown family that I know took great delight in posting pics of them all at the theatre sans masks, proudly wearing their lanyards (only one of the 3 kids is actually exempt). Really grinds my gears.
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Post by スコットランド on Jan 5, 2022 6:59:26 GMT
I'm bit wary of getting overly optimistic about omicron being less deadly and the fact that by spring most people in Western Europe should have immunity some way or another, putting us in a much better place as the pathetic worldwide vaccination rates mean that it's perfectly possible/likely that a new variant appears and gets flow in and we start again. Surely to fuck in 2022 we need to really push improving worldwide vaccination rates.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 5, 2022 7:02:48 GMT
It's going to be very difficult for another variant to outcompete something as contagious as Omicron which will likely be endemic before long.
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Post by Dougs on Jan 5, 2022 7:09:20 GMT
Who was asking about confirmatory PCRs earlier The interesting part there is allowing asymptomatic cases to go back to work etc more quickly. All part of the steps towards removing restrictions entirely imo.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 5, 2022 7:10:39 GMT
Isolation will go soon imo. It's probably doing more harm than good at this point.
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Post by Frog on Jan 5, 2022 7:10:43 GMT
Still believe that the best course of action with people who are willingly unvaccinated is to make any treatment chargeable.That way they get to make their choice of accepting the NHS treatment (vaccine) or pay for private treatment should they need it.
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Post by elstoof on Jan 5, 2022 7:15:02 GMT
Just give them covid, works the same as a vaccine
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Post by Deleted on Jan 5, 2022 7:18:25 GMT
Since they've rejected modern medicine they shouldn't be allowed any other kind. See how they get on with the leeches.
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Post by Dougs on Jan 5, 2022 7:19:18 GMT
Still believe that the best course of action with people who are willingly unvaccinated is to make any treatment chargeable.That way they get to make their choice of accepting the NHS treatment (vaccine) or pay for private treatment should they need it. Very slippery slope that imo, in terms of wider health care and how the NHS is used.
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Post by スコットランド on Jan 5, 2022 7:21:33 GMT
It's going to be very difficult for another variant to outcompete something as contagious as Omicron which will likely be endemic before long. Just reading this and does sounds like that it will be difficult, fingers crossed.
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Post by elstoof on Jan 5, 2022 7:22:35 GMT
Make smokers pay for cancer treatment, make people who do sports pay for broken bones and torn muscles
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Post by スコットランド on Jan 5, 2022 7:22:50 GMT
Still believe that the best course of action with people who are willingly unvaccinated is to make any treatment chargeable.That way they get to make their choice of accepting the NHS treatment (vaccine) or pay for private treatment should they need it. Do you do the same for smokers, drinkers, obese people etc? I like the Macron approach, make their lives more limited, grind them down.
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Post by cubby on Jan 5, 2022 7:24:04 GMT
The trend tends to be more contagious less severe, so if anything that can out compete omicron comes along it'll be a one sneezer
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Post by elstoof on Jan 5, 2022 7:30:43 GMT
It’s going to be interesting to see what happens in Australia when worldwide restrictions are lifted, will the population have the same level of immunity as everywhere else where it’s been spreading rampantly
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Post by Deleted on Jan 5, 2022 7:44:28 GMT
They're hitting 40k cases a day there now so I think they'll be in the same situation as everyone else pretty soon.
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Post by スコットランド on Jan 5, 2022 7:46:56 GMT
It’s going to be interesting to see what happens in Australia when worldwide restrictions are lifted, will the population have the same level of immunity as everywhere else where it’s been spreading rampantly They have higher vaccination than UK and plenty of infections now so don't imagine a big difference.
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Post by kal on Jan 5, 2022 7:53:52 GMT
Still believe that the best course of action with people who are willingly unvaccinated is to make any treatment chargeable.That way they get to make their choice of accepting the NHS treatment (vaccine) or pay for private treatment should they need it. Do you do the same for smokers, drinkers, obese people etc? I like the Macron approach, make their lives more limited, grind them down. I do believe that people with donor cards (or have opted-in somehow driving licence etc) should be the only ones eligible for an organ should they need one. I also believe it should be an opt-out system, not opt-in. This issue is different but I do think there should be more overt links in some cases between societal contribution and benefit.
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Post by Dougs on Jan 5, 2022 8:03:47 GMT
Think we now have an opt out system, don't we?
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Post by kal on Jan 5, 2022 8:04:32 GMT
No idea tbh.
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