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Post by Deleted on Feb 19, 2022 10:44:49 GMT
It definitely makes a pretty big difference.
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Post by gammonbanter on Feb 19, 2022 10:55:28 GMT
Got given an old Bialetti coffee pot thing. Not sure if I'm doing it right, do I pack the coffee grinds in tight or loose?
Currently, I still prefer the cafetiere at this stage, but fun to play with on the weekend!
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Post by Vortex on Feb 19, 2022 10:57:05 GMT
A burr grinder is meant to be better/more consistent than a blade one. I had a burr hand grinder, then bought an electric blade one.
Not sure i spotted much difference, but i tended to pulse-grind it.
Now i have a good grinder on my fancy coffee machine, so can use that instead.
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Post by tonyferrino on Feb 19, 2022 11:04:16 GMT
I use a delonghi electric burr grinder, it's around 40 quid. I'm sure there are much better ones but for v60 grind it's more than good enough. I also get coffee from Hasbean on subscription. They send me a different coffee every two weeks so I've tried loads over the years, it feels like a bit of a treat!
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Post by Ulythium on Feb 19, 2022 11:07:36 GMT
Kudos, EMarkM - given how much I love making proper coffee at home, it genuinely warms my cynical old heart to know that you're embarking on the same journey and enjoying it thus far.
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Post by Ulythium on Feb 19, 2022 11:10:12 GMT
Got given an old Bialetti coffee pot thing. Not sure if I'm doing it right, do I pack the coffee grinds in tight or loose? Currently, I still prefer the cafetiere at this stage, but fun to play with on the weekend!
I'm sure others here will be able to say more definitively than I, but I think the answer is loose - if you pack the grounds down tightly, as you would in an espresso machine, you'll probably build up too much pressure and trigger the safety valve.
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Post by Tomo on Feb 19, 2022 11:14:58 GMT
Got given an old Bialetti coffee pot thing. Not sure if I'm doing it right, do I pack the coffee grinds in tight or loose? Currently, I still prefer the cafetiere at this stage, but fun to play with on the weekend! Funnily enough, Coffee Jesus has done a video series on Bialettis recently: www.youtube.com/watch?v=upgQsA5kLAkVideo #3 is about perfect moka tekkers if you want to go balls deep. |
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Post by Bongo Heracles on Feb 19, 2022 11:17:02 GMT
Got given an old Bialetti coffee pot thing. Not sure if I'm doing it right, do I pack the coffee grinds in tight or loose? Currently, I still prefer the cafetiere at this stage, but fun to play with on the weekend! Don’t tamp the grinds just fill it up normally. When the spout starts to sputter, whip it off and run the base under the cold tap. I’m not a massive fan of a mokka pot neat but if you dilute it in a mug with boiling water it actually makes a really nice quasi-americano |
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Post by Bongo Heracles on Feb 19, 2022 11:17:34 GMT
That’s the mokka pot covered then!
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Post by Sarfrin on Feb 19, 2022 11:18:24 GMT
Got given an old Bialetti coffee pot thing. Not sure if I'm doing it right, do I pack the coffee grinds in tight or loose? Currently, I still prefer the cafetiere at this stage, but fun to play with on the weekend!
I'm sure others here will be able to say more definitively than I, but I think the answer is loose - if you pack the ground down tightly, as you would in an espresso machine, you'll probably build up too much pressure and trigger the safety valve.
Loose for me. I used to carefully smooth the coffee flat but I don't bother with that now and it makes no difference. |
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Post by gammonbanter on Feb 19, 2022 11:47:59 GMT
Great advice here; I just very excitedly made my 3rd cup of the morning. Loose and quick off the boil makes a delicious cup, where as packed and slow to take off the hob gave a horrid after taste.
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Post by elstoof on Feb 19, 2022 11:52:46 GMT
A burr grinder is meant to be better/more consistent than a blade one. I had a burr hand grinder, then bought an electric blade one. Not sure i spotted much difference, but i tended to pulse-grind it. Now i have a good grinder on my fancy coffee machine, so can use that instead. Then you get into conical vs flat burr grinders, burr diameters, ceramic vs steel etc and you realise you’ve turned into an absolute monster |
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Post by EMarkM on Feb 19, 2022 12:28:34 GMT
Kudos, EMarkM - given how much I love making proper coffee at home, it genuinely warms my cynical old heart to know that you're embarking on the same journey and enjoying it thus far. Cheers! It’s something I’d always wanted to do, but could never make up my mind between one of these machines or a French press. Turns out there was an even simpler and cheaper method of which I previously knew nothing! |
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Post by Vortex on Feb 19, 2022 13:12:05 GMT
Then you get into conical vs flat burr grinders, burr diameters, ceramic vs steel etc and you realise you’ve turned into an absolute monster I hope I won't getting in that deep! |
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Post by spacein_vader on Feb 19, 2022 13:48:14 GMT
Kudos, EMarkM - given how much I love making proper coffee at home, it genuinely warms my cynical old heart to know that you're embarking on the same journey and enjoying it thus far. Cheers! It’s something I’d always wanted to do, but could never make up my mind between one of these machines or a French press. Turns out there was an even simpler and cheaper method of which I previously knew nothing! That's where I was at. I've stopped at a cheapish burr grinder and a V60 as for me it's good enough without the cost and hassle (cleaning etc,) of some or the other methods. |
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Post by torb on Feb 19, 2022 15:20:58 GMT
No reason to go further (for me). I’ve genuinely never tasted better coffee than freshly ground beans poured over in a v60 filter holder. So simple, sooo tasty. But if you’re into latte espresso and all that stuff I guess the rabbit hole goes way deeper!
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Post by Sarfrin on Feb 19, 2022 15:32:09 GMT
Burr grinder is definitely worth getting over a blade one. I've had both.
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Post by EMarkM on Feb 28, 2022 19:24:11 GMT
My blimmin’ goodness, I’m enjoying this!
I’m still on my original bag of Morrison’s pre-ground house, and still just using our normal kettle (hilariously branded “Aicok”, it raises a smile every morning!), and I may be Space’s cack-handed oaf, as I cannot for the life of me get 24g of water to soak 12g of grounds.
BUT it tastes bloody lovely, doesn’t it? Someone’s going to have to use up the Kenco at some point…
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Post by gamecat on Feb 28, 2022 19:54:36 GMT
Many people struggle with getting all the coffee wet in that first bloom, especially with single cup brews. Try not making a hole in the grounds, also don't get too worried if you end up nearer 3:1 rather than 2:1 water/coffee. You are also supposed to, rather unhelpfully in your case, 'grind finer' if you have this issue, another excuse to go grinder shopping!
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Post by EMarkM on Feb 28, 2022 20:08:14 GMT
gamecat Brilliant; thanks for the extra info. I’ll definitely try the “not making a well” method; I can certainly see how that would help. At some point, I’ll have a more sophisticated pourer, whether it be kettle or jug, and that will no doubt help too. Thanks again.
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Post by Bongo Heracles on Feb 28, 2022 20:34:08 GMT
That’s not a small part of why people get the old goose neck kettle.
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Post by Vortex on Feb 28, 2022 20:42:07 GMT
Baz speaks the truth here.
Gentle goosenecked pour to not disturb the sacred coffee bed.
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Post by EMarkM on Mar 1, 2022 9:38:20 GMT
Many people struggle with getting all the coffee wet in that first bloom, especially with single cup brews. Try not making a hole in the grounds, also don't get too worried if you end up nearer 3:1 rather than 2:1 water/coffee. You are also supposed to, rather unhelpfully in your case, 'grind finer' if you have this issue, another excuse to go grinder shopping! Tried it flatter this morning and it was definitely easier, but I still ended up with about 45:12 ratio for that bloom. Onward! |
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Post by Bongo Heracles on Mar 1, 2022 9:40:28 GMT
You can also give the slurry a little swirl to make sure everything gets wet rather than adding more water.
Im a two swirl guy: a little swirl at bloom and a swirl at the top when all the liquid is in just to knock some of the coffee clinging to the side off.
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Post by EMarkM on Mar 1, 2022 11:28:28 GMT
You can also give the slurry a little swirl to make sure everything gets wet rather than adding more water. Im a two swirl guy: a little swirl at bloom and a swirl at the top when all the liquid is in just to knock some of the coffee clinging to the side off. Yep, I have been doing that too. Maybe it’s just this particular coffee: the double, even triple, amount of water doesn’t seem quite enough. I’m sure it’s most likely to be my n00b technique! |
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Post by Tonka (🐑,🪤) on Mar 1, 2022 11:52:25 GMT
My company bought a stupidly expensive coffee grinder, and to my relief I feel no pressure to replace my cheap ass coffee "mixer". The expensive one looks nice, and there's nothing wrong with the grind, but it's not leaps and bounds beyond what I manage at home. Blend and roast of the beans make a bigger difference. |
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Post by Ulythium on Mar 9, 2022 17:04:56 GMT
For all you bean-to-cup people:
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Post by Ulythium on Mar 29, 2022 16:18:04 GMT
I use my AeroPress pretty much exclusively these days - would I gain much/anything from getting a V60?
The bog-standard V60 isn't exactly expensive, and I fancy a bit of a change; however, if I'm not going to notice a difference between immersion and percolation brewing methods, I might not bother.
What sayeth thee, my fellow coffee wankers?
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Post by Tomo on Mar 29, 2022 17:30:30 GMT
I use my AeroPress pretty much exclusively these days - would I gain much/anything from getting a V60? The bog-standard V60 isn't exactly expensive, and I fancy a bit of a change; however, if I'm not going to notice a difference between immersion and percolation brewing methods, I might not bother. What sayeth thee, my fellow coffee wankers? I would say no, perhaps unless you are a supertaster. I've gone the opposite way – used a V60 for a long time and got an Aeropress Go for Christmas to use at work. I'm so versed in the V60 that it feels a little annoying having to make an Aeropress. It's not hard, but I don't have the muscle memory for it yet that I do a V60. Hence, sometimes the results are a bit meh, whereas I can consistently get good results with a V60. |
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Post by Ulythium on Mar 29, 2022 18:58:17 GMT
TomoThanks for the response! That's kind of what I thought, to be honest. I can get good, reproducible results from the AeroPress with minimal fuss; with the V60, I'd be starting from scratch. If the end product isn't going to be noticeably different, there's not much point.
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