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Post by myk on Dec 30, 2021 19:22:58 GMT
I enjoyed the first thirty minutes more than the last, for me I'd have cut out all the 'real world' stuff and made it even more about Neo and Trinity and whether he can convince her the world isn't real and whether she wants to leave even if it's not (or vice versa - maybe Trinity needs to convince Neo, give him the family). Then you'd have the Architect trying to give them more and more of what they want to stay, and warning them that by leaving they could die (lies that humanity has been wiped out, or that only Neo has a body to go back to).
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Post by oldschoolsavant on Dec 31, 2021 20:27:03 GMT
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Post by Tomo on Dec 31, 2021 20:50:45 GMT
I liked it a surprising amount.
Spoilers...
Things I didn't get:
- why did Smith end up helping them thwart the Analyst.
- what was that final conversation about? I didn't really get the zinger that N+T seemed to have pulled at the end. They seemed very pleased with themselves.
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Post by Immaterial on Dec 31, 2021 21:39:51 GMT
On the flip side, I got to show my kids the original Matrix, and according to them it was 'alright'. High praise indeed.
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Post by crispyxuk on Dec 31, 2021 23:56:55 GMT
I liked it a surprising amount. Spoilers... Things I didn't get: - why did Smith end up helping them thwart the Analyst. - what was that final conversation about? I didn't really get the zinger that N+T seemed to have pulled at the end. They seemed very pleased with themselves. they woke up |
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Post by dfunked on Jan 1, 2022 0:21:41 GMT
They got woke
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Post by drhickman1983 on Jan 1, 2022 16:24:25 GMT
I enjoyed it, thought it was a decent epilogue to the original films, and a better film than the two earlier sequels.
Not a classic, but good. I actually thought that despite all the meta referencing and call backs it still actually felt like it's own thing; I mean, it's recognisably a Matrix film, but I personally don't think it was relying on nostalgia, and it was creative with it's set pieces.
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Post by Vandelay on Jan 1, 2022 16:56:33 GMT
Just came back from it. I had a good time and particularly liked the opening hour or so.
We talked earlier in the thread about how the first film effortlessly interweaved its plot with the heavier philosophy that it explored. I felt like Resurrections managed to do a similarly good job of that, although doing that for an exploration of the creative process, the importance of stories and the grind that is put onto the creative minds by the money behind the lavish creations we enjoy. This theme dissipated during the second half a little, but they managed to do something more interesting than a more straightforward sequel likely would have been.
I do agree that some of the action was a little underwhelming. I didn't have a problem with the slow frame rate effect though and I did quite enjoy those sequences. There were some cool moments with Neo's force push abilities, although it was overused. Could have used more kung-fu.
Certainly found it better than the sequels, which I recently found to be far worse than I actually remembered (weirdly, I ended up finding Revolutions more tolerable, viewing it as a fairly mediocre sci-fi war film, with some visual flare).
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Post by beastmaster on Jan 1, 2022 17:24:57 GMT
No more sequels confirmed. Was a massive flop and the HBO Max thing didn’t help.
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Post by drhickman1983 on Jan 1, 2022 17:30:24 GMT
I'm kinda glad there's no more, I liked the film a lot but the franchise is feeling pretty wrung dry now.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 1, 2022 17:36:14 GMT
Yeah. It was fine but unnecessary. I won't miss it.
As a side note, I thought it was cute that the guy they chose to play Trinity's husband was Chad Stahelski, who was Keanu's stunt double in the original trilogy and with whom they developed John Wick together.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 2, 2022 20:09:41 GMT
Honestly don't know why they bothered
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Post by Jambowayoh on Jan 2, 2022 21:42:05 GMT
Watching this currently and I don't know why, but why does it feel so... cheap?
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Post by dfunked on Jan 2, 2022 21:44:04 GMT
Yeah, I got that too. Like they cut some serious corners on a $150m blockbuster...
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Post by Jambowayoh on Jan 2, 2022 21:51:12 GMT
Well I've got about 30 minutes left of this and it's on a 4/10 so far.
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Post by drhickman1983 on Jan 2, 2022 21:55:04 GMT
Well, I genuinely liked it /shrug
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Post by Jambowayoh on Jan 2, 2022 21:59:29 GMT
No, that's cool, like what you like it just feels like a very unnecessary film.
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Post by Jambowayoh on Jan 2, 2022 22:22:02 GMT
So yeah, finished. I appreciated the meta aspects but it was all just so underwhelming, really, really flat action with a complete lack of peril. The ending just felt a bit embarrassing too. I'm kinda sad how's it all turned out tbh.
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Post by gamecat on Jan 2, 2022 22:26:46 GMT
Watching this currently and I don't know why, but why does it feel so... cheap? The slo mo effect they use all the time is just awful, felt like they'd done it on a phone or something. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 2, 2022 22:38:22 GMT
The whole thing felt like a very elaborate joke - if it is, fine, but if the secret to good comedy is timing then I really don't understand why this film at this moment.
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Post by dfunked on Jan 2, 2022 22:42:11 GMT
You take the red pill and realise the first film was great, but everything after it was utterly pointless.
You take the blue pill and go on believing that this is a good film.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 2, 2022 22:44:30 GMT
The whole thing felt like a very elaborate joke - if it is, fine, but if the secret to good comedy is timing then I really don't understand why this film at this moment. Actually, I wonder if Warner put loads of pressure on Lana to do another one and she made something that's basically a running joke about why you shouldn't dig up a franchise after nearly 20 years. |
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Post by Jambowayoh on Jan 2, 2022 22:53:47 GMT
Well they were going to make a Matrix without the Wachowskis so most likely yes. I mean it's mentioned in the movie itself.
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Post by MolarAm🔵 on Jan 2, 2022 22:58:18 GMT
Yeah that's the meta part of it.
As for the film... eh, I liked it. It was different. It's kind of bad as a Matrix sequel, but it's nice to see something that isn't just a nostalgia trap.
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Post by drhickman1983 on Jan 2, 2022 23:06:45 GMT
I think it's a good epilogue. The main story concluded in the shitty earlier sequels. I absolutely maintain that Reloaded and Revolutions are far, far worse than Resurrections, so as far as I'm concerned this was a light-hearted cleanser of past fuck ups, which, whilst having it's fair share of exposition-dump talking, did something a bit different and irreverent. It filled in gaps of what happened following the original trilogy and had some fun with it.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 3, 2022 9:56:27 GMT
Yeah that's the meta part of it. As for the film... eh, I liked it. It was different. It's kind of bad as a Matrix sequel, but it's nice to see something that isn't just a nostalgia trap. I feel like the best way to think of it is an extended director's commentary on the first movie, 20 years after the event. Nostalgia is a massive part of that and it sort of riffs on that quite a lot. In some ways it reminded me of the first two Star Wars sequels but with a LOT more irony. |
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Post by baihu1983 on Jan 7, 2022 14:47:54 GMT
Follow up to the Animatrix
https://www.reddit.com/r/matrix/comments/rfq7b5/new_animatrix_incoming_john_gaetas_linkedin/
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Post by drhickman1983 on Jan 7, 2022 15:04:17 GMT
If true that might be interesting.
Big emphasis on the might. But the Animatrix was the most interesting sequel / spin off the Matrix had.
Really depends on what new stories they can come up with. Not sure we need a series of shorts about people "waking up" from the Matrix in slightly different ways.
Did kinda like the one in the original Animatrix where the sprinter basically broke free of the Matrix just by being really fast.
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Post by Saul1138 on Jan 7, 2022 22:16:56 GMT
I think the biggest problem, and this is probably just me, I thought it was engrossing, an loved the self referential elements. But I cannot remember what happened at the end. I vaguely remember parts, but it just didn’t make a big impression.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 12, 2022 10:17:59 GMT
Trinity can fly and can make rainbows. That's about it.
There's probably something about how the Analyst wanted to keep them apart to continue to fuel the machines and allowing them to be back together ends their hegemony, plus it finally gives Neo and Trinity a happy ending, but I'm doubling down on how it's just a piss-take and should be enjoyed / considered as such.
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