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Post by mothercruncher on Feb 1, 2023 10:34:55 GMT
PSVR2 is one over on Microsoft too, you’d think it’d be a nice stick to, virtually, beat the competition with.
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Post by Wizzard_Ook on Feb 1, 2023 10:42:28 GMT
It’s just way too expensive. I never imagined it would be more than the console itself. Has there ever been a peripheral that cost more than the console launch price before? PS5 launched at $750 here. PSVR2 is $880, though the console is now $800 iirc. I think once you add up all the psvr 1 stuff you needed it was more expensive than a PS4, even at full RRP. Though they did get aggressive with it with that super bundle sometime later. I suspect something similar will happen with the psvr2. It is expensive but it’s only really the quest/pico that offer ‘value for money’ being they are standalone units and you don’t need to fork out a console or Pc. Anyway, against my better judgement I’ve stuck in a pre-order this morning. Being still new to VR I figured that with Resi 8, NMS, Horizon, GT7, Saints and sinners, moss, Tetris/Rez/Thumper amongst others there’s a lot to try and play. Even if doesn’t take off and Sony drop it I still had a chance to play many well regarded titles . There’s at least 10 titles there which probably makes a console purchase justifiable.
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Post by wunty on Feb 1, 2023 10:48:09 GMT
I feel as though I've been reading about this for a while and there have been quite a few features on gaming sites regards some of the games (Horizon for example) but even so, I don't think I knew it was out soon. Then again, I don't think I've been paying attention. It looks good for what it is but I just don't think I really have any interest in VR even if I had the cash for one. I've tried a few games on the boy's Oculus and I just don't get on with it. It's fun for 10-15 minutes but any more than that and I'd rather just be sitting in front of the telly. Something about the sensory deprivation that comes with playing it. I don't like to be that immersed in something. It freaks me out. There have been loads of YT previews of the headset itself and more recently Horizon. EG have multiple videos on upcoming games in dev. There's definitely content out there, I just don't know if they've done any tv or print marketing. Yeah I’ve definitely seen stuff. Think I’m not really paying much attention tbh. In would definitely like to experience it at some point but not own it.
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Post by pierrepressure on Feb 1, 2023 11:32:51 GMT
Are they just focusing on the 'hardcore' for now, who mostly pick up new tech, a sort of soft launch with a view to increase coverage towards Christmas?
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Post by monkman5000 on Feb 1, 2023 12:14:24 GMT
Probably. If you advertise to Dave Average now, he'll have forgotten about it by the 22nd.
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Post by wunty on Feb 1, 2023 12:22:10 GMT
Yeah but Dave Average had that skateboard accident in his teens remember and his memory isn't great. Poor Dave.
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Post by Phattso on Feb 1, 2023 12:27:57 GMT
Perhaps they don't want to fuel the perception that to get the "full PS5 experience" you have to lay out a grand. Get it out to the hardcore, let word of mouth do its thing, then go big at Christmas with a pack-in or two and a price drop.
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Post by RumMonkey on Feb 1, 2023 12:30:15 GMT
If it gets down to around 300 odd quid and that Half-Life Alyx games gets ported I'll cave. Get see it being a long term alternative to playing with a controller and TV though.
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Post by Whizzo on Feb 1, 2023 12:35:59 GMT
PlayStation UK have been sending out 10% off vouchers for the PSN store so probably a good idea to have a look in your inbox and spam folder in case you've got one.
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Post by Derblington on Feb 1, 2023 12:42:47 GMT
I'd really like Alyx to get ported but Valve don't seem particularly bothered to play with consoles.
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Post by aubergine on Feb 1, 2023 12:54:43 GMT
Valve have ported every single Half-Life game they’ve ever made to console, so with those odds, maybe?
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Post by Wizzard_Ook on Feb 1, 2023 13:10:11 GMT
It’s probably in Valve’s best interest to put Alyx on the PSVR2. Likewise for Sony to put Horizon, Resi 8 and GT7 on other headsets a year or so down the line. For VR‘s sake really.
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Post by Zyrr on Feb 1, 2023 13:26:10 GMT
I've pre-ordered, but then I'm a sucker for VR. As much as I like the Index I don't have the satellites permanently installed, so getting everything out and set up is a pain in the arse for a quick go now and then. I felt similarly about PSVR with the break-out box and the camera and all the bloody cables that needed untangling every time it came out of the cupboard.
My youngest has a Quest 2 that she uses with her laptop and that 'one cable' connectivity is appealing, so PSVR 2 won me over on that alone. Bit miffed about the lack of backwards compatibility, as Astrobot Rescue Mission is a game I still revisit from time to time. Here's hoping they update it.
On the point of Sony's lack of promotion: I've been keeping half an eye out for PSVR2 since last year, and I completely missed that it was up for pre-order. Only placed my order last week. But then I don't really check game news sites as regularly as I used to.
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Post by Derblington on Feb 1, 2023 13:38:49 GMT
Having pre-orders exclusively via their website probably isn't the best method of having it accessible to as many people as possible.
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Post by Jambowayoh on Feb 1, 2023 14:18:09 GMT
It’s probably in Valve’s best interest to put Alyx on the PSVR2. Likewise for Sony to put Horizon, Resi 8 and GT7 on other headsets a year or so down the line. For VR‘s sake really. It's only in their interest if there's actually a business case no?
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Post by Wizzard_Ook on Feb 1, 2023 14:31:03 GMT
It’s probably in Valve’s best interest to put Alyx on the PSVR2. Likewise for Sony to put Horizon, Resi 8 and GT7 on other headsets a year or so down the line. For VR‘s sake really. It's only in their interest if there's actually a business case no? Yeah for sure. I may be wrong, but it feels like everyone kind of needs to chip in with VR to help it grow and stabilise it as a platform? I don’t expect Vr to be doing Console numbers (although it seems that the quest 2 sold as much as the series s/x) but my preconception is that it’s still a new medium and just needs all the help it can just to make sure it carries on it that makes sense. Saying that, writing the quest has sold as much as the series consoles probably makes that notion kind of silly.
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Post by mcgeeza on Feb 1, 2023 14:45:15 GMT
Perhaps they don't want to fuel the perception that to get the "full PS5 experience" you have to lay out a grand. Get it out to the hardcore, let word of mouth do its thing, then go big at Christmas with a pack-in or two and a price drop. Also could it not be that they don't want to market the shit out of it and then not be able to keep up with demand? After what happened with the PS5, you can kind of understand that position if they can only make a limited number of headsets.
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Post by Jambowayoh on Feb 1, 2023 14:49:27 GMT
Perhaps they don't want to fuel the perception that to get the "full PS5 experience" you have to lay out a grand. Get it out to the hardcore, let word of mouth do its thing, then go big at Christmas with a pack-in or two and a price drop. Also could it not be that they don't want to market the shit out of it and then not be able to keep up with demand? After what happened with the PS5, you can kind of understand that position if they can only make a limited number of headsets. That doesn't really make sense. The whole point is to create a demand, scarcity breeds demand.
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Post by Frog on Feb 1, 2023 14:54:33 GMT
The smart thing to do would have been to strike a deal with oculus to have their headsets work on the console. They are cheap and actually really good and people would have had a peripheral that had multiple uses.
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Post by Jambowayoh on Feb 1, 2023 14:55:48 GMT
The smart thing to do would have been to strike a deal with oculus to have their headsets work on the console. They are cheap and actually really good and people would have had a peripheral that had multiple uses. The smart thing would also to be let people use PSVR2 on a PC.
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Post by Frog on Feb 1, 2023 14:57:14 GMT
That would work too but there are millions of quest 2's out there already so games would have a decent install base to start.
Would encourage a few more games.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 1, 2023 15:04:14 GMT
Probably not Oculus though, since you need to make/tie a facebook account to it.
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Post by mcgeeza on Feb 1, 2023 15:05:36 GMT
Also could it not be that they don't want to market the shit out of it and then not be able to keep up with demand? After what happened with the PS5, you can kind of understand that position if they can only make a limited number of headsets. That doesn't really make sense. The whole point is to create a demand, scarcity breeds demand. Normally I would agree, but what with the PS5 supply finally 'sorted', you can understand that they wouldn't want the same situation with VR2 a month later? Not trying to make excuses for them BTW. Just wondered if it was a factor. We do know that they haven't just forgotten to market it. They're obviously going for hardcores first and letting youtubers do the marketing for them. Also I guess the decision whether to have in-store demos for VR2 was made for them post covid. No-one would be strapping one of those to their face these days unless it has been dunked in bleach.
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Post by Frog on Feb 1, 2023 16:00:55 GMT
Probably not Oculus though, since you need to make/tie a facebook account to it. They stopped that
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Post by Deleted on Feb 1, 2023 16:03:13 GMT
Have they? First I’ve heard of that. I might’ve bought one for Half-Life if I’d known.
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Post by Frog on Feb 1, 2023 16:06:32 GMT
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Post by Jambowayoh on Feb 1, 2023 19:21:55 GMT
That doesn't really make sense. The whole point is to create a demand, scarcity breeds demand. Normally I would agree, but what with the PS5 supply finally 'sorted', you can understand that they wouldn't want the same situation with VR2 a month later? Not trying to make excuses for them BTW. Just wondered if it was a factor. We do know that they haven't just forgotten to market it. They're obviously going for hardcores first and letting youtubers do the marketing for them. Also I guess the decision whether to have in-store demos for VR2 was made for them post covid. No-one would be strapping one of those to their face these days unless it has been dunked in bleach. I feel like better or worse, Sony under Jim Ryan has become a very different beast, somewhat more secretive but also with a similar arrogance as the PS3 era.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 1, 2023 19:37:54 GMT
Always find it odd when people attribute human traits to a multinational company.
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Post by Bongo Heracles on Feb 1, 2023 19:40:03 GMT
My favourite is when someone accuses a global megacorp of being ‘greedy’
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Post by Jambowayoh on Feb 1, 2023 19:49:03 GMT
Always find it odd when people attribute human traits to a multinational company. . But that's just human language, no?
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