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Post by Hanimalle on Sept 28, 2024 9:13:45 GMT
Hey everyone, I'd be interested in hearing your advice about the new gaming pc I'm considering buying. Before that though, here's my current configuration so you get an idea of what I'm currently working with :
CPU : Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-9600K CPU Cooler : MSI Core Frozr L RAM : 16,0 Go DDR4 3000 MHz Graphics Card : NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2080 Case : Cooler Master MasterCase H500 Power Supply : EVGA 750 GQ SSD : Crucial MX500 - 1 To Motherboard : MSI MPG Z390 GAMING EDGE AC
As for why I'm seriously considering investing in a new system, I've noticed that my computer does seem to struggle a little bit in more recent games such as Pacific Drive for example and there are a few upcoming games that I'm interested in that will probably be similarly too demanding for my current pc. My native resolution is 2560x1440 and my screen can go up to 144 Hz.
And so here's what my current hardware wishlist looks like, tell me if something could or should be changed :
CPU : Intel Core i5-14600KF CPU Cooler : MSI MAG CORELIQUID 360R V2 RAM : G.Skill Ripjaws M5 RGB Black - 2 x 16 Go (32 Go) - DDR5 5600 MHz - CL30 Graphics Card : MSI GeForce RTX 4070 Ti SUPER GAMING X SLIM Case : MSI MPG Gungnir 110R Power Supply : MSI MPG A850G PCIE5 - Gold SSD : Samsung 990 PRO - 2 To Motherboard : MSI MAG Z790 TOMAHAWK WIFI
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Post by Chopsen on Sept 28, 2024 9:18:29 GMT
Intel CPU wouldn't be my first choice given that intel's flagship range have a high failure rate, bugs, and awful power consumption.
Liquid cooling is a popular option. I have a corsair AIO. If I had my time again, I'd go for a noctua and stick with aircooling. I was hoping the AIO would give quieter cooling. It'd actually quite loud.
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Post by malek86 on Sept 28, 2024 9:19:48 GMT
At what point would anymore cache become redundant? I mean, will games really benefit from 192MB? Maybe they would, but if the only real problem with the 7950X3D was that one CCD had access to the big cache and the other didn't, it would be interesting to see how it compares to, say, an X3D with 48MB on each CCD.
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Post by Chopsen on Sept 28, 2024 9:20:03 GMT
Oh and if you really want to go down the RGB bling route, make sure your stuff is compatible with openrgb.org/. Proprietary RGB software is universally awful.
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Post by Derblington on Sept 28, 2024 9:30:15 GMT
Intel CPU wouldn't be my first choice given that intel's flagship range have a high failure rate, bugs, and awful power consumption. If I’d built my pc from earlier in the year just a month or so later I would have gone with AMD too, for peace of mind.
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Post by Chopsen on Sept 28, 2024 9:32:32 GMT
I'm not sure that's fair, the frame generation is one of the biggest innovations in GPU technology for quite a while. That's what I meant by fancy pants drivers.
Yes I know it leverages the simplified but massive parallel processing that's inherent in the GPU design, but it's dependent on sophisticated software to achieve that affect.
While Nvidia's offering has been out a while, AMD have come along leaps and bounds with AFMF which is their implementation of that and Digital Foundry were very impressed with it, but it's an entirely a software side development. The hardware line-up supporting it hasn't changed.
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Post by Chopsen on Sept 28, 2024 9:33:54 GMT
Intel CPU wouldn't be my first choice given that intel's flagship range have a high failure rate, bugs, and awful power consumption. If I’d built my pc from earlier in the year just a month or so later I would have gone with AMD too, for peace of mind. Ditto.
I've got a 13k which *seems* to be fine. It's come in for some heavy use and still no issues. So far.
/touches wood
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Post by Vandelay on Sept 28, 2024 9:54:19 GMT
Intel CPU wouldn't be my first choice given that intel's flagship range have a high failure rate, bugs, and awful power consumption. Liquid cooling is a popular option. I have a corsair AIO. If I had my time again, I'd go for a noctua and stick with aircooling. I was hoping the AIO would give quieter cooling. It'd actually quite loud. Also have a Corsair AIO (H100i something or other). I like it, but a good air cooler would be just as good and be a bit cheaper. If you go all in on water-cooling and get one of those build your own kits then the results can be fantastic, but AIOs compared to air coolers are pretty much on par. Unless you like the aesthetics of the AIOs, then just get an air cooler and save a few quid (and to be fair I do like the cleaner look over having hulking great big cooler on top of the CPU). Besides that, AMD does sounds like the preferred choice again. Quick glance and I think the 5700x3d is about the same price and should be around the same performance, maybe slightly better.
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Post by Phattso on Sept 28, 2024 10:11:08 GMT
Isn't one of the primary benefits of the AIO units the dramatic drop in fan noise when the CPU gets loaded? It's not all about the temps for me, I chuffing *hate* it when CPU coolers spin up and drown everything else out.
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Post by dfunked on Sept 28, 2024 10:22:35 GMT
I tried a couple of well reviewed AIO coolers yonks ago and ended up sending them back as I found them noisier and no more efficient than my trusty NH-D15. Things have probably improved a fair bit since then, though.
Having said that the noise had been driving me a bit nuts with my 5900x even with good old coffee and cream. I just couldn't find a fan curve that kept things cool AND quiet. The 5700X3D that I downgraded to seems like a much better fit so far.
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Post by Chopsen on Sept 28, 2024 10:34:15 GMT
Isn't one of the primary benefits of the AIO units the dramatic drop in fan noise when the CPU gets loaded? It's not all about the temps for me, I chuffing *hate* it when CPU coolers spin up and drown everything else out. My AIO is a noisy bastard under load. It's a bit better allowing the mobo to control the fans directly, but even the pump is quite noisy on its own. Also if the CPU is under load, the GPU probably is anyway and that is even worse. I've got a couple of PCs with noctua air coolers. Admittedly their both AMDs and therefore generate less heat anyway, but they are properly inaudible under load at reasonable seating position. Basically AMD + air cooling best solution for CPU in terms of cost, noise, power draw, stability. imo.
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Post by Fake_Blood on Sept 28, 2024 10:39:26 GMT
People with AiO’s often link fan speed to the cpu temp, when they should link it to the water loop temp. With cpu temp the fans will ramp up and down by simply opening a program, if you link it to the loop temp you get a more stable ramp up and you actually make use of the massive heatsink. Disadvantage if you can call it that is that the fans will keep running at high speed after you’re done gaming for a couple minutes.
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Post by Phattso on Sept 28, 2024 10:52:59 GMT
Isn't one of the primary benefits of the AIO units the dramatic drop in fan noise when the CPU gets loaded? It's not all about the temps for me, I chuffing *hate* it when CPU coolers spin up and drown everything else out. My AIO is a noisy bastard under load. It's a bit better allowing the mobo to control the fans directly, but even the pump is quite noisy on its own. Also if the CPU is under load, the GPU probably is anyway and that is even worse. I've got a couple of PCs with noctua air coolers. Admittedly their both AMDs and therefore generate less heat anyway, but they are properly inaudible under load at reasonable seating position. Basically AMD + air cooling best solution for CPU in terms of cost, noise, power draw, stability. imo. Interesting, and disappointing! I've never had an AIO (they weren't a thing last time I did a build) but it was my assumption that two or three fans cooling the liquid couldn't possibly be louder than the last chonky-boi CPU cooler I used. Granted that was on an Intel CPU, but it easily outdid the GPU cooling noise under load. Given that Intel are spinning the drain I imagine my next build will be AMD for the CPU anyway, for the first time since the early noughties. Just need NVidia to pull their finger out and actually release the 5000 series GPUs.
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Post by Frog on Sept 28, 2024 11:15:07 GMT
Yeah the AIO cookers aren't all that, I will be going with a noctua again next time as they are brilliant coolers.
Not one for glass panelled cases though 😂
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