DC Films

That's one thing I prefer to Marvel movies at this point. The Batman has been the best superhero movie in recent times part of it being because it was a standalone story.

Nathan Fillion added as Guy Gardner (green lantern) now.

It sets up a trilogy and at least one spin-off TV show, so not really.

To the ‘I’ve never used a movie to set up another movie’ point above, that is one of the most tiresome things about the MCU at the moment. You never really feel like you’re getting a finished product, just a 2hr trailer for the next movie and TV shows.

I enjoyed The Batman but also can’t imagine myself watching it a second time.

Way back before the MCU, I always thought Iron Man and Green Lantern were the easiest two "B-list" superheroes to make movies out of.

Tony Stark is a cock, arrogant, billionaire playboy who develops a bit of a conscience and fights crime in a robot suit. I could see the appeal of that character, how the FX could be handled 20+ years ago, and how it was a relatively simple concept to hang a movie off.

Hal Jordan is a cocky, arrogant test pilot (basically Maverick from Top Gun) who finds a dead alien and becomes a space cop. You could either do a Star Wars-style space movie or keep it relatively grounded on Earth, but the whole hook and backstory I thought was straightforward enough.

So I always found the convoluted, lore-heavy GL movie a surprise. I really don't think they had to go that hard, and even before the era of trying to create shared universes, they were definitely doing sequel bait. I still think it's a concept that's not been done well on the big screen, and it could be great.

Big part of GLs issues would have disappeared if they hadn't CGI every part of the suit.

It just reminded me of Big Smoke “Galactus” from Fantastic Four 2, which also sucked. Have the balls to have a giant man, the one thing Eternals got right.

I remember quite enjoying the original Suicide Squad - despite the fact it felt like it had been assembled by committee - up until I realised they would, indeed, be fighting a giant lightshow in the last act.

I must be on an island of one, but I stand by my opinion that the Snyder Cut was NOT better. More of a terrible movie is not an improvement.

Looks like The Flash is going to make less at the cinema than Ryan Reynolds’s GL film.

You can argue it’s apples and oranges if you want to hide behind that, but that’s still a gut punch.

I think there are a lot of good character moments and fleshed-out scenes that probably serve to make the overall narrative better. And you lose the mostly-bad reshoots that Whedon did. 

But, I mean, it's still not very good. It's still miserable and oh-so-edgy. And I do think Whedon's finale is a lot better, a lot more fun, more action-packed and ends on a note of hope and joy which is quite nice. So really it's a toss-up between two mediocre movies. I guess Whedon's is a lot shorter, which helps.

Something that I feel a bit bad about, given all the shit Ray Fisher had to go through, is that I found the Cyborg plotline to be really, really dull. The character is nothing like his comic book or cartoon persona, and he is by turns a grumpy thing or a technical savant as the plot requires. I don't really think it's Fisher's fault, particularly, but I think Whedon made him a bit more likeable and removed some of the misery baggage from his storyline, to the film (and character's) benefit.

I've just sat and watched The Flash and it was actually good. Some of the all CG cameos were good with some nice nostalgic nods. The end scene made me chuckle, knew instantly it was a switch but didn't expect that one.

Overall I liked it regardless of anybody else's opinion.

The cameos should have just been clips from those films/shows rather than those CGI faces.

I still enjoyed it despite all the real world Ezra stuff and it being another 30 minute CGI battle at the end.

It also has probably the 2nd most pointless end credits scene out of all the comic book movies. Birds of Pray Batman joke voice over is first.