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Mar 18, 2022 10:47:49 GMT
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Post by geefe on Mar 18, 2022 10:47:49 GMT
Animated series was almost, tonally, opposite to the Spiderman stuff at the time. There's an episode almost devoid of Batman, about a crime boss' guilt at his son becoming an addict of the drugs he deals.
I'd say it's aged very, very well, considering.
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Post by Bill in the rain on Mar 18, 2022 10:49:22 GMT
That's possibly the kind of episode that appeals more to me than my kids.
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Post by baihu1983 on Mar 19, 2022 10:12:47 GMT
Peacemaker coming to UK 22nd March
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Post by Deleted on Mar 19, 2022 12:25:04 GMT
Peacemaker coming to UK 22nd March On which service?
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Post by Deleted on Mar 19, 2022 12:40:01 GMT
They've been advertising it on Sky/NowTV for a while now so something on there.
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Post by baihu1983 on Mar 19, 2022 12:46:07 GMT
Peacemaker coming to UK 22nd March On which service? Sky
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Post by Deleted on Mar 19, 2022 12:47:05 GMT
Oh is it Sky is it
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Post by beastmaster on Mar 24, 2022 17:30:59 GMT
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Post by anephric on Mar 24, 2022 17:36:51 GMT
I'm not surprised that was deleted, it's such an on-the-nose Thomas Harris homage. You'd have all the Se7en homages on top of that and it just becomes one big serial-killer wankfest.
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Post by Derblington on Mar 24, 2022 20:12:21 GMT
Yeah, not keen on that scene. Not really sure why he’s going to the Joker for advice on a serial killer’s motives? At least J looks different, I guess.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 24, 2022 20:22:41 GMT
I loved the movie, but a big gripe of mine was how fuckin' stupid this Batman was. For all the talk of "for once, they show Batman be a detective," he's pretty brainless when it comes to guessing any of the obvious clues Riddler left for him. Especially when the riddles are pointing directly towards him or his family. That deleted scene exemplifies that, where even the Joker figures out it's all about him, and he just ignores it.
As for the look of the Joker there, it's realistically more what someone would look like if they fell in a vat of acid, but I hate it nonetheless.
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Post by Reviewer on Mar 24, 2022 20:49:47 GMT
I don’t like the look much, yet I still prefer it to Jared Leto.
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Post by Blue_Mike on Mar 24, 2022 21:30:29 GMT
I came out of seeing it on Monday and the first thing I said was "To quote Mrs. Doubtfire, I gotta piss like a racehorse."
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Post by aubergine on Mar 24, 2022 23:35:01 GMT
Saw it last night. Enjoyed it a lot! Up there with the very best Batman movies. Appreciated the focus on investigation, which all the previous movies lacked. Enjoyed the stronger relationship with Gordon than previous takes. I’ve seen a lot of people saying the tone and Riddler stuff is indebted to Saw, but to me this is actually the first Batman movie that is most like the actual comics from the last thirty years. Pattison was great. I like the approach that they took where Bruce Wayne has effectively withered on the vine and only Batman is real. It gives them somewhere new to go in follow-ups as he may discover ways that Bruce Wayne can be effective when Batman isn’t. The film was extremely economical in its use of support characters like Alfred, who usually get much more screen time, and better at using under-utilised characters like Gordon, but not for talky character / moral discussion scenes but actual investigation. I’d forgotten where I’d seen Paul Dano before (had to look it up afterwards) but it was pretty great once the mask comes off that he’s just some utterly unremarkable baby-faced dweeb and I enjoyed Turturro as an unlikely casting for Carmine Falcone. The mystery was admittedly weak. It couldn’t have been more obvious that they busted Sal Marone just to absorb his side of the crime business, and it annoyed me that wasn’t obvious to Batman and Gordon the instant it was obvious to the audience. I think they might have under-served the Gotham PD, the whole corruption plot may have been better served by fleshing out their characters just a little more. Gordon whipping out a crowd of “good cops” with no development of that thread was pretty weak, but I guess the film immediately shot down the reason for having them in that scene anyway. I also liked how the movie RELATIVELY subtly had Batman’s character develop from just an obsessed instrument of un-focussed or immature Fear to a much more publicly recognised hero as he gets down in the water and saves people on the ground level, and shares an empathetic moment with the woman on the stretcher, because before that, even the people he’s saving are terrified of him. I think the only way they could fuck this up from here is by introducing characters with super-powers. Hopefully they keep it seperate from the rest of the DC universe.
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Post by aubergine on Mar 24, 2022 23:44:10 GMT
I suspect the joker scenes were cut for several reasons. One, I can’t understand what he’s saying. Two, I think they decided they didn’t want to be locked in to a specific look (and, possibly, actor) for it, so only used the shot at the end where you don’t see anywhere near as much of him as here.
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Post by geefe on Mar 25, 2022 8:38:06 GMT
Yeah it's....I can see why it was shot and there was, undoubtedly, a studio directive of "put the fucking Joker in somewhere" but..
1 - is that the file on Buffalo Bill? 2 - for a film that had very good audio, that was clearly not given the same treatment. Mixing is way off. 3 - Keoghan is definitely channeling Ledger
I see fanboys are jizzing themselves over it but I want a bit of a different take. I know we're going super serious, which is fine, but it's ok to have some silliness in it. Give him a regional accent, maybe, or something.
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Post by britesparc on Mar 25, 2022 13:16:38 GMT
Finally saw T'Batman last night (or at least 95% of it - the screen turned off just before the end for some reason - long story).
I went in with mixed feelings as I really liked the look of it, but was bored by the prospect of another serious Batman. And I emerged very much the same. I really liked Pattinson as Batman; I loved the look of the film, the cast, the performances. I loved the focus on procedural, and the down-to-earth nature of Bruce as Batman, with his suit that made sense and the way he was building and refining his gadgets and stuff. I liked the allusions to a larger Gotham full of criminals and weirdos.
BUT. It was far too long. It felt like a miniseries that had been edited into one movie; so many characters, so many subplots. And it was so relentlessly humourless. I was glad to see the Penguin because at least Colin Farrell looked like he was having fun. And there was really nothing there that I hadn't seen before: Nolan had done the "realistic" take on Batman; the architecture of Gotham and arguably even elements of the suit seemed very inspired by the Arkham games; elements of the story seemed similar to not only the Telltale game series but also the Nolan films. Yes, okay, cherry-pick from other adaptations - there was a lot of Long Halloween and maybe a bit of Hush in there too - but it needs its own flavour. For me, despite how well done everything was, I just didn't think it had anything new to say as a Batman film. And really it's not a very good detective film; the central mystery is ropey and I was always one step ahead of Batman and Gordon, which shouldn't be the case.
So anyway, whilst I did like it a lot, it's still a bit of a shrug.
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Mar 25, 2022 13:42:44 GMT
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Post by Reviewer on Mar 25, 2022 13:42:44 GMT
The director has said why they cut that scene. It didn’t add anything and killed the momentum of the film.
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Post by dfunked on Mar 26, 2022 0:25:06 GMT
One more question... How much coke have you done in the past ten minutes?...
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Post by zephro on Apr 1, 2022 9:59:04 GMT
I've seen this now. It's a good/solid film but with some very apparent flaws mostly around direction/editing. The good: most the performances, the design and look, the plot generally. The bad: how flabby it is, like it needs a proper edit. It's incredibly long and really needs editing down to make it more punchy. The script/direction/editing all need work to bring it back down really. Plot things: Did they actually need to draw in Thomas Wayne's back story, The Riddler, Catwoman, Penguin and Falcone all in the one film? You could have cut that down by at least 1 or 2 secondary characters and still have a strong movie. Did they actually need to get into the Iceberg Lounge 4 times? Batman just smashing in, Catwoman infiltrating it, Bruce going in as Bruce and then finally another raid. Feel like you could have compressed that a bit. Editing: - Just as an example. The chase scene. You see Batman hit the ramp, you know he's survived, yet they still do the Penguin laughing his ass off for 30-40 seconds before the Batmobile launches from the ramp, which as a viewer you already knew was happening. Also the time between the 2 seems very off so the continuity in the cuts is weird. Minor thing, but there's lots of them which leads to the film being so fucking long. Just edit it better. - Or the final fight thing there's 2 different Batman hanging off a thing in peril bits. Probably don't need both. - The fucking film basically has 3 ending points. Batman's monologue. The bit in Arkham. Then him and Catwoman chatting. Just end on the first! Style things: - Batman went through the front door far too often. He should have swooped around / come from a different angle some more. I am told he did swoop once but it was when I went for a piss. - I did not like the Ridler's whole SAW mask villain thing at all. He was much more fun ranting with his mask off honestly. - Catwoman's mask was shite. - Batmobile was great. The city looked great. The rain was perfect. I have a bad feeling a "Director's Cut" will come out and it'll be 3 hours 30 when a better cut would be shorter.
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Post by Derblington on Apr 6, 2022 23:27:42 GMT
Ezra Miller in jeopardy at WB again due to a recent arrest. Apparently there was an emergency meeting at WB where they may be freezing all his future projects and recasting Flash for any further movies.
Dude is obviously a mess.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 6, 2022 23:31:02 GMT
He was a mess before they hired him. Reshoot with the CW kid the way they removed Spacey that one time.
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Post by MolarAm🔵 on Apr 7, 2022 2:02:51 GMT
They sound like they might have some anger issues to sort out.
("they" in reference to Miller, who uses they/them)
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Post by beastmaster on Apr 7, 2022 7:25:37 GMT
Seriously doubt they’ll reshoot. WB will be “gone” soon as they are being taken over by Discovery. New main man. A lot can change. A lot can stay the same.
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Post by geefe on Apr 7, 2022 7:32:48 GMT
In short, outside of Batman, the DC stuff has been either forgettable guff or underperformed. Think only Wonder Woman 1 can be called a true success.
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Post by MolarAm🔵 on Apr 7, 2022 8:48:53 GMT
So... this is meth, right. It sounds like meth.
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Post by Jambowayoh on Apr 7, 2022 8:53:06 GMT
I don't know specifically, but they don't sound well.
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Apr 7, 2022 8:54:26 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Apr 7, 2022 8:54:26 GMT
I think he's just a cunt.
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Post by dfunked on Apr 7, 2022 8:55:11 GMT
"They", Decks...
They're just a cunt.
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Post by Jambowayoh on Apr 7, 2022 8:57:01 GMT
There's also the possibility that they're an egotistical cunt.
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