anephric
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Mar 9, 2022 22:18:07 GMT
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Post by anephric on Mar 9, 2022 22:18:07 GMT
I think Pandora being so colourful and Roger Deanish may have had something to do with the escapist appeal too.
Avatar 2 may well be huge, James Cameron is consistent. Although his recent producing projects (which he heavily endorsed PR wise) didn't do much.
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Mar 9, 2022 23:48:48 GMT
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Post by Jambowayoh on Mar 9, 2022 23:48:48 GMT
I'm going to reserve judgement for now.
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Post by beastmaster on Mar 10, 2022 0:08:51 GMT
It’s a film that I have no idea how or why it was the highest grossing film. That's what I'm talking about, sure the 3D was a revolution for the time that hasn't developed any further, but the story was essentially Dances with Wolves and people seem to have just forgotten about it completely. Hasn’t developed any further…Until Avatar 2 hits. Most of the film is set underwater and Cameron developed underwater motion capture technology especially for it. Add the 3D to something people haven’t seen before and I think it’ll be sensational effects wise. I've still not seen 3D that’s got any better than the original Avatar in IMAX. Not even close. Is anyone interested in it anymore? Yes. Especially once that hype train gets going. Could potentially be the biggest film of all time. |
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Post by Bill in the rain on Mar 10, 2022 0:31:14 GMT
Avatar was ok, but I have zero interest in Avatar 2.
That said, a huge amount of the appeal of the first one was escaping into that beautiful world.. so Cameron couldn't really have picked a better time to make it. I can see a lot of people who've been trapped at home because of Covid etc.. wanting to escape to somewhere like Pandora.
Then again, The Matrix was one of the biggest movies of its time, and Matrix 4 did very badly apparently. So who knows.
The only DC movie I have any interest in is Wonder Woman 3.
Or possibly the batgirl movie, but I have no idea what's going on with that.
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Mar 10, 2022 8:14:32 GMT
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Post by dfunked on Mar 10, 2022 8:14:32 GMT
Isn't the Batgirl one a streaming only one? Not that that's necessarily a bad thing. Still has a vague 2022 release window, so I guess we'll find out more soon.
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Mar 10, 2022 8:15:28 GMT
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Post by baihu1983 on Mar 10, 2022 8:15:28 GMT
Yeah it's HBO Max.
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Post by Bill in the rain on Mar 10, 2022 10:32:14 GMT
I'd vaguely heard that, but not paid much attention.
That's a dumb choice.
I wondered if it was a dual streaming and theater release, or if it was a decision born of Covid that might now be reversed.
Still more interested in Batgirl that any of the Justice League adjacent ones (other than WW)
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Post by JYM60 on Mar 10, 2022 10:41:07 GMT
Didn't even know another Avatar was out next year. But I've never even seen the first one.
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Mar 10, 2022 10:53:33 GMT
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Post by Vandelay on Mar 10, 2022 10:53:33 GMT
I've never understood how Avatar is one of the biggest films of all time. It was average at best. The 3D effects weren't even that special, despite all the hype. Outside of the destruction of the tree, it was the same old pointy nonsense, whilst lots of moments of floating islands didn't seem to use any 3D effect. Perhaps you had to see it in IMAX, but I would still say the rollercoaster ride of Gravity and the more imaginative use of 3D in Hugo were far more interesting uses of the tech. The plot was fine, but really nothing we hadn't seen hundreds of times before and not really told in any unique way. Edit: Kermode says it better - m.youtube.com/watch?v=08FK7WghHSc |
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Post by beastmaster on Mar 10, 2022 11:40:46 GMT
I've never understood how Avatar is one of the biggest films of all time. In the words of William Goldman, “Nobody knows anything.” You just can't tell what will resonate with audiences. Avatar 2 is out this year. Avatar 3 is out on 2024. Not sure when 4 and 5 are out but he's already filmed scenes with the child actors for those. That's some serious forward thinking. |
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Post by Derblington on Mar 10, 2022 11:47:59 GMT
The Avatar 3D is still the best I've ever seen. Really don't understand the "3D wasn't all that" take. A few other movies have done it well too - Gravity and Dredd - but Avatar was leagues ahead of everything else at the time.
I like Avatar. I'm looking forward to A2, 3, 4 and 5. I'm expecting cool visuals around the world and creatures. I doubt the stories will win awards but as long as they're entertaining it doesn't matter.
My gf also fucking loves the first film and they're genuinely the only films that she's got on her schedule. She reminded me of the release date of A2 last week. Everything else is me saying "x is out now, do you want to see it?"
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Mar 10, 2022 12:22:22 GMT
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Post by Jambowayoh on Mar 10, 2022 12:22:22 GMT
We'll see...
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Mar 10, 2022 12:33:00 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Mar 10, 2022 12:33:00 GMT
The hype will build uup again once a trailer is released and they do "The sequel to the former biggest film of all time" narrative.
It will do amazingly well, just not as well as the first.
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Post by Lukus on Mar 10, 2022 13:12:19 GMT
If I want to watch an animated film set almost entirely underwater, I'm watching The Water Babies. Stay in your lane, Cameron.
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Post by Bill in the rain on Mar 11, 2022 15:02:56 GMT
Dredd did 3d?
Tron Legacy and Oz made good use of 3d, though in the latter case it only really worked for the transition.
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Post by Derblington on Mar 11, 2022 15:28:44 GMT
Yeah. For most of the movie it wasn't particularly notable but it really emphasized the slo-mo drug effects whenever that was used.
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Mar 11, 2022 15:55:19 GMT
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Post by geefe on Mar 11, 2022 15:55:19 GMT
It was 3D only in a lot of cinemas.
Which absolutely fucked it
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Mar 11, 2022 16:46:57 GMT
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Post by anephric on Mar 11, 2022 16:46:57 GMT
It's also the reason why it looks like crap/full of aliasing on most Blu-ray releases, because of some shitdickery that went on with the 3D cameras.
Even the 4k release barely looks better than the best of the blurays.
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Post by Bill in the rain on Mar 12, 2022 1:32:33 GMT
Dredd didn't seem to get a 3d release over here. I can see how it might have been cool for the slo-mo bits though.
I think it got about a 1 week release window, where it was in 1 theater in the whole city, and only showing once a day at about 10am.
That theater was in the red light district (which is a weird place at 10am) and I was in an empty cinema. Weird experience.
I may have been the only person in Japan who watched it.
Good movie though.
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Post by baihu1983 on Mar 12, 2022 7:05:42 GMT
That film is great and really sucks we never got the planned trilogy.
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Post by Bill in the rain on Mar 12, 2022 10:42:29 GMT
There was talk of a TV show, but I've been hearing that for ages and it doesn't seem to have appeared. It's now 10 (!!) years later and I'm not sure Olivia Thirlby is going to pass as a fresh rookie anymore  |
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Post by anephric on Mar 12, 2022 13:29:39 GMT
It's a shame that Rebellion couldn't seem to get the funding together to make their series. I don't understand how Netflix hasn't thrown money hats at it, when they will fund any old shit, particularly nostalgia-heavy Gen X stuff.
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Post by starchildhypocrethes on Mar 16, 2022 19:42:09 GMT
Just grabbed the complete Batman Animated Series on iTunes for £25, which is a bit of a bargain.
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Post by Jambowayoh on Mar 16, 2022 20:16:43 GMT
Just grabbed the complete Batman Animated Series on iTunes for £25, which is a bit of a bargain. That is a bargain and a half. |
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Post by baihu1983 on Mar 16, 2022 21:16:25 GMT
My niece has gotten into it.
Hasn't aged well and its funny how just about every episode makes Batman look reckless/weak and at times dumb.
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Post by Jambowayoh on Mar 16, 2022 21:18:28 GMT
Bullshit, it's still a brilliant show also probably spawned maybe the greatest batman movie, Mask of the Phantasm.
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Mar 16, 2022 21:21:44 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Mar 16, 2022 21:21:44 GMT
It's still my favorite imagining of Batman and his world.
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Post by starchildhypocrethes on Mar 16, 2022 21:38:34 GMT
Pfft. It’s the best Batman.
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Post by Bill in the rain on Mar 17, 2022 0:26:22 GMT
I have the entire series from long ago.
I still love the aesthetic, but I've tried a few times to get my kids into it and they find it a bit dull. It's definitely a lot more serious and less hyperactive than most modern kids cartoons.
Not 100% sure on the depiction of women either, although you could argue that it's fitting with the 50s aesthetic.
Not sure I ever watched Mask of the Phantasm. I watched a couple of other spin-off movies, including the Harley Quinn one, and they were ok. ish.
Even way back before Arkham Asylum, I always wanted an open world Gotham game in the aesthetic of The Animated Series.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 17, 2022 0:32:16 GMT
I hated that Batman & Harley Quinn movie, but if you enjoyed the original series, I'd absolutely recommend Mask of the Phantasm, as well as Return of the Joker, which is both a BtAS and Batman Beyond film.
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