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Mar 5, 2022 19:01:26 GMT
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Post by unrealkilla on Mar 5, 2022 19:01:26 GMT
Killas The Batman Review
It is really good, easy 9/10. It could do with having a bit more fun in it true, it takes itself very seriously, and it is also very dark. Like every shot is dark as night.
But I really liked it and I'm mega stoked for sequels. The action is great. I really like how it is a new take, but borrows from many previous incarnations of Batman (except Adam West). I liked how very early on it set it's sights on a multi generational audience by playing Nirvana Something In The Way. Kids today like Nirvana, kids yesterday liked Nirvana, and I liked Nirvana. They're like Guns n Roses for the alternative scene.
Which is where I think it really plants it's flag, with a little in the LGBT, #metoo and anti bullying messages. And I'm not really mad at it, it works.
The villains Penguin and Riddler are both really awesome. Watching the movie made me want to go home and play the Arkham games.
And I'm on board with Battinson. He's a great Batman tbh. I like the looks he gives, and his mannerisms as Batman to make this Batman his. But he sucks as Bruce Wayne without the mask I reckon. The emo fringe just doesn't work for me, and he's not smooth enough, or grown up enough. He'd make a pretty good BW in his 20s, just starting out as Bats.
Now for a few more negatives. It could do with more star power. Pattinson is the only recognisable big boy on the block. Burton's and Nolan's films both had loads of Tier 1 actors in them. Even though all the actors are really solid. Great even. I don't even know why I'm complaining tbh.
It is all really dark and barely lit, tiresomely so. Despite there being quite a few really nice shots of Gotham at night.
Batman's gadgets. This Batman has gadgets, really high tech ones. But not that many. He only really uses his grappling hook, Batarang, a taser and these new contact lens cameras. Where's his belt full of tricks? The new Batcave is a glorified garage workshop. The Bat Computer looks like a VCR.
Anyway that's about it for negatives. There's probably more but I can't think of them right now. It is a really good Batman film, I like the dark and brooding tone, I like Battinson, I like the new Batmobile, I like that it's targeted at alternative people, and I like it's modern messaging.
It's easily a 9/10, but I think I can be generous and go to at least a 9.2/10 and I'm looking forward to the 4K home release.
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Mar 6, 2022 19:49:44 GMT
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Post by baihu1983 on Mar 6, 2022 19:49:44 GMT
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Post by Reviewer on Mar 6, 2022 21:20:19 GMT
What LGBT stuff? I don’t remember anything even remotely linked to that.
And he is supposed to just be starting out as Batman, not sure why your comment reads like he isn’t.
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Post by Derblington on Mar 6, 2022 21:25:41 GMT
Unsure why it needs more “star power” either. Everyone does the job with what they’ve done, what purpose would adding a name for name’s sake have?
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Mar 6, 2022 21:56:17 GMT
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Post by geefe on Mar 6, 2022 21:56:17 GMT
I mean, Colin Farrel, Kravitz and Jeffrey Wright aren't exactly unknown. I'd argue R Patz is higher profile than Bale was and Liam Neeson wasn't the crotchety old action star he's become known for.
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Mar 6, 2022 22:19:21 GMT
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Post by Jambowayoh on Mar 6, 2022 22:19:21 GMT
I mean, Colin Farrel, Kravitz and Jeffrey Wright aren't exactly unknown. I'd argue R Patz is higher profile than Bale was and Liam Neeson wasn't the crotchety old action star he's become known for. I would agree, moreso with Bale, he wasn't unknown but nowhere near as famous until after he was Batman. Pattinson is definitely much more famous than Bale was pre Batman. |
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Post by Reviewer on Mar 6, 2022 22:26:01 GMT
I mean, Colin Farrel, Kravitz and Jeffrey Wright aren't exactly unknown. I'd argue R Patz is higher profile than Bale was and Liam Neeson wasn't the crotchety old action star he's become known for. Paul Dano and John Turturro are very well known too. Not the Jim Carey sort of start from the 90s films but in the same ballpark as all the Nolan bad guy actors. |
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Mar 6, 2022 22:32:46 GMT
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Post by Frog on Mar 6, 2022 22:32:46 GMT
Had no idea who Danno was going into it but he was absolutely brilliant. Completely believable as the character.
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Post by anephric on Mar 6, 2022 23:19:05 GMT
Yeah, this rocks. Absolutely what I expected from Reeves, it's great. Moody, noirish, Bats isn't mega powered or gadgetted, it all feels low techish like the muscle car Batmobile (and tonally does completely feel like Rocksteady's games).
Lots of detective work, Gotham feels like Gotham and not another city standing in for it. Michael Giachinno's score is moody and imposing. The action scenes are great and kinetic without being over the top flashy, better than Nolan's.
I could do without Paul Dano doing another psycho shrieky Paul Dano turn but I suppose he does it well.
It's all great, would watch sequels.
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Post by dfunked on Mar 6, 2022 23:26:14 GMT
Had no idea who Danno was Bit harsh. He's a solid 6/10 poster. |
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Mar 7, 2022 8:26:39 GMT
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Post by unrealkilla on Mar 7, 2022 8:26:39 GMT
What LGBT stuff? I don’t remember anything even remotely linked to that. And he is supposed to just be starting out as Batman, not sure why your comment reads like he isn’t. Catwoman when she goes in the club with the contact lenses has pink hair and it was noticeable how all the men were eyeing her up, and when she and Batman were talking it sounded like Batman was sympathising with her. I dunno I got Wachowski vibes off it like in the new Matrix, but I'm an old fuddy so yeah it's probably nothing. I didn't realise this film was intentionally set at the time of Batman starting out. Makes more sense, like I said. I'm not a major comic book guy, I've read some Batman comics and collected editions, but I don't really know that much. Sorry. |
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Mar 7, 2022 8:35:38 GMT
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Post by Tuffty on Mar 7, 2022 8:35:38 GMT
I really liked it. Some thoughts
- I thought Batman's theme music was really good and when used it got me suitably hyped.
- It did a good job of making the Riddler always 2 steps ahead of Batman throughout.
- Loved those scenes where gunfire and explosions were used as the lighting
- As much as I enjoyed it, it definitely felt like 3 hrs as it was approaching the end. Maybe it was also cause I needed a piss.
- Part of me still feels that Pattinson could and should have been used in a Batman Beyond adaptation instead, with Michael Keaton as the older Bruce Wayne.
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Mar 7, 2022 8:41:48 GMT
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Post by unrealkilla on Mar 7, 2022 8:41:48 GMT
I mean, Colin Farrel, Kravitz and Jeffrey Wright aren't exactly unknown. I'd argue R Patz is higher profile than Bale was and Liam Neeson wasn't the crotchety old action star he's become known for. I said "recognisable". Farrel is the biggest name that I know other than Pattinson, and he's in a fat suit. I didn't know Zoe Kravitz was Lenny Kravitz's daughter, I've never heard of her. Not as famous as Kim Basinger or Maggie Gyllenhall to me. Andy Serkis I've heard of but I can't think of anything else he's been in off the top of my head. Dano and Wright I've never heard of and don't recognise, and I watch a lot of movies, but yeah I'm not Mark Kermode so might have missed them. Hardly compares to Caine, Oldman, Nicholson, Ledger, Pfeiffer, Murphy, De Vito, Hardy, Freeman etc. I just remarked that the star power isn't quite at the same level as previous Batman films, and I even said these did a fantastic job. I was just making an observation. Sorry if I got that wrong as well. |
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Post by anephric on Mar 7, 2022 8:59:40 GMT
Reeves also isn't really interested in Bruce Wayne, and the scenes with RPats doing his mopey emo thing are brief and might as well not be in the film. There's no Bruce Wayne billionaire playboy thing. He also has absolutely no relationships with anyone as Bruce outside of Alfred, who is also in it only briefly. The whole thing is about Bats, and the couple of relationships he has, namely Catwoman and Gordon.
It's so intensely BROODING ANGRY LONELY BATMAN so YMMV based on that.
I also loved the opening scenes with Bats' narration and setting up that criminals are terrified of the dark/night, because he could be hiding in any shadow. That was incredibly well done and totally Frank Miller. I would've liked some more moody narration throughout the entire movie (it's only really at the beginning and the end) just to make it even more Year One/DKRish.
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Mar 7, 2022 9:00:10 GMT
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Post by Reviewer on Mar 7, 2022 9:00:10 GMT
Andy Serkis is more famous for his mo cap stuff - golem, caesar in planner of the apes. He was in Black Panther with his face. He has been in a fair amount of other stuff but not much where you see his face recently.
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Mar 7, 2022 9:02:39 GMT
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Post by Reviewer on Mar 7, 2022 9:02:39 GMT
Reeves also isn't really interested in Bruce Wayne, and the scenes with RPats doing his mopey emo thing are brief and might as well not be in the film. There's no Bruce Wayne billionaire playboy thing. He also has absolutely no relationships with anyone as Bruce outside of Alfred, who is also in it only briefly. The whole thing is about Bats, and the couple of relationships he has, namely Catwoman and Gordon. It's so intensely BROODING ANGRY LONELY BATMAN so YMMV based on that. I also loved the opening scenes with Bats' narration and setting up that criminals are terrified of the dark/night, because he could be hiding in any shadow. That was incredibly well done and totally Frank Miller. I would've liked some more moody narration throughout the entire movie (it's only really at the beginning and the end) just to make it even more Year One/DKRish. I think the no Bruce is because he hasn’t learnt how to do that and be Batman yet, although there’s indication that maybe that might be something that grows in future films. My only real criticism of the film is that I’m not sure it’s one I’ll want to watch a lot of times, it doesn’t quite have that repeat viewing hook. |
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Mar 7, 2022 9:11:39 GMT
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Post by geefe on Mar 7, 2022 9:11:39 GMT
Not really seeing how Batman "sympathising" with a woman being eyed up in a club is LGBT vibes but ok.
Daniel Craig was hardly known before he did Bond and I'm fairly sure he did alright. If we're going on star power being a good indicator of a film then Batman and Robin is the best one.
Anyway, haven't seen the film. Giving it a couple of weeks but anticipating a 6/7 out of 10.
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Mar 7, 2022 9:14:00 GMT
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Post by unrealkilla on Mar 7, 2022 9:14:00 GMT
Reeves also isn't really interested in Bruce Wayne, and the scenes with RPats doing his mopey emo thing are brief and might as well not be in the film. There's no Bruce Wayne billionaire playboy thing. He also has absolutely no relationships with anyone as Bruce outside of Alfred, who is also in it only briefly. The whole thing is about Bats, and the couple of relationships he has, namely Catwoman and Gordon. It's so intensely BROODING ANGRY LONELY BATMAN so YMMV based on that. I also loved the opening scenes with Bats' narration and setting up that criminals are terrified of the dark/night, because he could be hiding in any shadow. That was incredibly well done and totally Frank Miller. I would've liked some more moody narration throughout the entire movie (it's only really at the beginning and the end) just to make it even more Year One/DKRish. Thanks for Batsplaining. Yeah I really liked it including the broody, angry, lonely stuff. Also loved how the film set up that he could be pop out of anywhere. |
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Post by anephric on Mar 7, 2022 9:27:59 GMT
I'd watch this. Caesar? Hi, it's Gary. I've got you booked in for an 11AM at your stylist and then an interview with Trent Crimm from The Independent at 12. He wants to ask you some questions about that whole uprising thing. Then some you time at 1 then you've got the rest of the afternoon filled out with attacking the humans at the old dam. |
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Mar 8, 2022 23:39:08 GMT
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Post by JYM60 on Mar 8, 2022 23:39:08 GMT
I liked it a lot. Definitely a really really good Batman movie, but not much of a Bruce Wayne film. Which is fine, it is called Batman. But I did love Bale as Bruce, and it added humour and stuff which this was lacking, which again is ok.
Dunno if it was just me, but I was getting vibes that this was borrowing heavily off other films, in particular The Dark Night. Like the ending having everyone huddled up from the flood just reminded me of the boat scene in TDK. Riddler rallying up anarchy just like the Joker, getting arrested on purpose like the Joker, interrogation scene with Batman like the Joker, sending videos in the public like the Joker. Playing the mob, like the Joker. Bent cops, like TDK.
Good though. An 8/10 maybe. And didn't think the runtime overstayed it's welcome.
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Mar 9, 2022 20:34:41 GMT
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Post by baihu1983 on Mar 9, 2022 20:34:41 GMT
Black Adam pushed back to October and Flash Pushed back to next year
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Post by Jambowayoh on Mar 9, 2022 20:35:57 GMT
Lol, what's another year for the Flash.
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Mar 9, 2022 20:39:56 GMT
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Post by baihu1983 on Mar 9, 2022 20:39:56 GMT
Shazam 2 moved as well
Aquaman 2 moved
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Post by Jambowayoh on Mar 9, 2022 20:48:11 GMT
So that Heroes in 2022 trailer has aged like milk then.
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Mar 9, 2022 20:54:06 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Mar 9, 2022 20:54:06 GMT
Shit I was really looking forward to watching none of those too.
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Mar 9, 2022 20:55:12 GMT
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Post by baihu1983 on Mar 9, 2022 20:55:12 GMT
Putting Shazam 2 up against Avatar 2.
Talk about sending films out to die.
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Post by Jambowayoh on Mar 9, 2022 21:06:03 GMT
Avatar 2...does anyone really care about that anymore, I mean it's crazy how a film that is one of the highest grossing of all time has left little to no cultural impact in the here and now.
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Post by Reviewer on Mar 9, 2022 21:43:11 GMT
It’s a film that I have no idea how or why it was the highest grossing film.
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Mar 9, 2022 21:48:46 GMT
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Post by baihu1983 on Mar 9, 2022 21:48:46 GMT
Who knew so many wanted a live action Ferngully?
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Post by Jambowayoh on Mar 9, 2022 21:50:45 GMT
It’s a film that I have no idea how or why it was the highest grossing film. That's what I'm talking about, sure the 3D was a revolution for the time that hasn't developed any further, but the story was essentially Dances with Wolves and people seem to have just forgotten about it completely. |
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