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Post by quadfather on Jan 2, 2022 14:15:58 GMT
I can highly recommend it! They are excellent synths and with the way they're made, you'll be creating cool stuff almost immediately. Do it! Edit - also, those synths are professional analog synths and will interact with any other modular or midi equipment. You can literally put a studio together in no time. And if you ever wanted to go down the eurorack route, you can take the moogs out of their cases and plug them into a fully modular eurorack setup. Or just patch them into it. I've had more fun with the mother 32 alone, never mind when you connect it to the dfam, or anything else. Edit 2(!)- if you do get it, I highly recommend a stereo reverb and delay pedal to go with it. You'll be in outer space in no time. |
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Post by quadfather on Jan 2, 2022 14:50:53 GMT
In fact, you've just made me decide what I am doing today. Now where is my smoke  |
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Post by arnvidr on Jan 6, 2022 14:42:19 GMT
Edit 2(!)- if you do get it, I highly recommend a stereo reverb and delay pedal to go with it. You'll be in outer space in no time. Hmm, I actually do have a guitar pedal with programmable effects, that has stereo in/out. I've been considering removing it from my pedal chain, maybe it can become a part of a synth chain  |
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Post by quadfather on Jan 6, 2022 14:55:19 GMT
Edit 2(!)- if you do get it, I highly recommend a stereo reverb and delay pedal to go with it. You'll be in outer space in no time. Hmm, I actually do have a guitar pedal with programmable effects, that has stereo in/out. I've been considering removing it from my pedal chain, maybe it can become a part of a synth chain  That would work perfectly. If you get the Mother 32 and the DFAM bundle, you also get a 4 port summing mixer, which you can set as either mono or stereo. Then take that to your effects pedal and stereo out from there to whatever interface/amp/speakers/whatever and that's pretty much it. When you get some really nice movement going with the synths, the reverb and delay makes it AMAZING |
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Post by quadfather on Jan 6, 2022 14:56:33 GMT
In fact, the only problem with moog gear, is that once you get one, you just want more |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 6, 2022 15:00:45 GMT
Seeing that moog thing makes me realise that I think I have a fear of knobs, dials, switches and faders. That sends me into a cold sweat. Even my bloody katana head I got last year, I just wait for my guitarist mate to send me some settings to put into it. I can't stand the thought of ever having to manually find a sound. Even when I'm recording. Once I got all the vox / bass etc sounds right, I haven't touched any of it for over a year, even for fine tuning.
I'm such a basic cunt.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 6, 2022 15:04:21 GMT
In fact, I don't even have the patience for coming up with different ideas for stuff any more. We're on a new album and I batter my bass down in about an hour, then another 2 hours for writing, singing and layering the vox, then bam, on to the next tune.
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Post by quadfather on Jan 6, 2022 15:22:40 GMT
I've found the trick with synths that you can configure completely, like the moog semi modular stuff, is that you make *one* change to something and *wait* to see how it affects the sound. If you just dial everything in randomly, you'll get chaos. You can get happy accidents from chaos, but sometimes, you just want to do something specific. I knew sod all about how it all works when I first started pissing about with a really basic moog (the £130 workstatt), but after a while, things start to click into place. If I turn them on now, I have a (basic) idea to get what I want. Plus the moog gear comes with 2 really important things - 1) a manual that is actually USEFUL to read to understand, and 2) it comes with loads of presets that you can dial in to get you up and running straight away. Then you can just nudge things here and there until you get it how you want it. Sure, they look mental and like something out of the Chaos Engine game, but once you start twiddling, it's an absolute joy! I lose hours and hours to them |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 6, 2022 15:26:07 GMT
Yes but you've actually got the ear, patience and skill for spending time doing it, and I think you enjoy the process as well. You're the architect. I'm the guy that turns up and hammers the skirting boards on.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 6, 2022 15:27:26 GMT
Sure, they look mental and like something out of the Chaos Engine game, Ha! You know I actually wrote a song called that years ago that we still go back and re-record now, because I always loved the name of that game. |
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Post by quadfather on Jan 6, 2022 16:03:49 GMT
Yes but you've actually got the ear, patience and skill for spending time doing it, and I think you enjoy the process as well. You're the architect. I'm the guy that turns up and hammers the skirting boards on. Well, at the band, I just hammer out bass lines all the time, and I really enjoy that and the collaboration with the group, but I've always been interested in just "pissing about" with keyboards - it's more like a tinkerer's hobby. Like going down the allotment to trim and prune till things look good. It's just like that, but with sound. There have honestly been times where I've pissed about enough to get something really cool, and then I realise I haven't even put the delay on, and when I do, I lean back and just go, "wooooooooooowwwwwwwww". I guess what I'm saying is that it's more a hobby that just keeps growing and growing, whereas the bass and the band is more dynamic + gigs etc. You also have ears by the way |
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Post by quadfather on Jan 6, 2022 16:06:40 GMT
Sure, they look mental and like something out of the Chaos Engine game, Ha! You know I actually wrote a song called that years ago that we still go back and re-record now, because I always loved the name of that game. I still play it! |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 6, 2022 19:38:23 GMT
Ha ha me too. Aye I totally get what you mean actually. I can tell you love it. I think I'm the same but it's more when a chorus or vocal bit clicks into place. For some reason I don't get excited about instruments any more, I just see them as tools. I literally pick up my bass to record and put it away once I've done, yet perversely I love listening to it once I've recorded it, I just can't be arsed with picking it up to actually play it for playing it's sake or to adjust the sound etc. I think I've just beaten my record. 45 mins to write and record the vox. Ha ha. For some reason though this stuff NEEDS to be done quickly. Can't explain it. It's like it ruins it if I spend too much time or thought with it. When the time is right and I'm in the zone it literally just falls right out of me.
I mean. Don't get me wrong, it SOUNDS like it's taken that length of time as well. I'm not shitting out gold here. But it seems to work for me and my brain is satisfied.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 6, 2022 19:45:56 GMT
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Post by quadfather on Jan 6, 2022 20:03:14 GMT
Aye I know what you mean, you know what it is you want to create and the bass is one of the tools that get you there, I get that.
And yeah, if something pops into your head you have to just do it right there!
I need to start doing that too. I need to set the laptop up so it's always recording me pissing about just on the off-chance I get something sounding cool but then forget about it later
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Post by EMarkM on Jan 7, 2022 17:41:34 GMT
Cock. It. Might have just bought a viola.
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Post by dogbot on Jan 7, 2022 17:56:22 GMT
Cock. It. Might have just bought a viola. \o/ Sweet. Pics yo follow, hopefully. I'm a fan of the look of instruments as well as the sound of them and I think the more "orchestral" type stuff can be especially nice. I'm still awaiting my amp. End of January now, apparently. Don't you just love it when companies sell stuff as in stock but it actually isn't? I've been looking at Gibson semi acoustics. I always wanted a 335 when I was kid. But they're a little bit more expensive than I remember. Sigh. |
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Post by RadicalRex on Jan 7, 2022 18:19:59 GMT
I hate fucking around with knobs too (no pun intended). That's probably one reason why the Boss HM-2 and its knockoffs are among my favourite pedals, as there is only one correct setting.
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Post by EMarkM on Jan 7, 2022 18:53:23 GMT
dogbot Those 335s are amazing. Thought about a Gretsch at all?
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Post by dogbot on Jan 7, 2022 19:03:42 GMT
dogbot Those 335s are amazing. Thought about a Gretsch at all? They're also nice, but it's the 335 I have a real soft spot for. But not for 3.5k, unfortunately. I supposed something like a Streamliner would be the equivalent? |
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Post by quadfather on Jan 7, 2022 19:12:01 GMT
There are not enough knob tweakers in here.
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Post by quadfather on Jan 7, 2022 19:13:07 GMT
Cock. It. Might have just bought a viola. \o/ Took you long enough. Let's have a gander then |
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Post by elstoof on Jan 7, 2022 19:14:59 GMT
What sort of budget you happy to spend on an ES style thinline? There’s things like Yamaha SA2200, Eastman T386 or the Epiphone Dot at various price points, plenty of others too
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Post by quadfather on Jan 7, 2022 19:17:24 GMT
Talking of buying things, let's have an update on this too please |
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Post by elstoof on Jan 7, 2022 19:25:09 GMT
So I’ve made an amplifier, started it up today. Need to identify a ground fault somewhere but it didn’t blow up which is nice. Waiting to hear back from the company that supplied the kit as the transformer I received isn’t the same as the one on the schematic and I’ve a feeling the extra wire is the cause of my ground issue. The front plate was a bit wank looking so I cut a new one out of copper which I’ll etch some wording on at some point  It’s not the neatest wiring job in the world but this is the warm up amp for the Vox AC15 kit that’s coming next  |
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Post by quadfather on Jan 7, 2022 19:27:26 GMT
elstoof seriously impressive stuff there!
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Post by EMarkM on Jan 7, 2022 20:03:52 GMT
Cock. It. Might have just bought a viola. \o/ Took you long enough. Let's have a gander then I’ll try and get a few muso pics up tomorrow. Presumably I can just Google Drive it? I’ll figure it out! |
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Post by dogbot on Jan 7, 2022 21:33:45 GMT
What sort of budget you happy to spend on an ES style thinline? There’s things like Yamaha SA2200, Eastman T386 or the Epiphone Dot at various price points, plenty of others too At this point, it was really just musing on their still being completely out of my reach, 35 years after I first wanted one. We may revisit this in future, however... 😁 |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 7, 2022 21:39:29 GMT
elstoof That's fucking awesome chief.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 7, 2022 21:43:59 GMT
Lets all live together. Elstoof can build us stuff, quaddy can do all the knob stuff and the rest of us can hammer the skirting boards in.
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