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Post by Kay on Mar 27, 2023 22:41:21 GMT
Unlike MK8 this isn't a port of an older game though. I still think there is a lot more to the game than what we've seen so far - maybe some time travel/dual world-type twist. It seems to be the most ambitious game Nintendo have ever made and I suspect the scope of the game world may end up dwarfing the one found in BotW.
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Post by dangerousdave on Mar 28, 2023 9:07:53 GMT
Considering it uses the same overworld as the original, it has been in development longer than the original, which says one of two things; Either this game has a ton more content compared to the original. Like an insane amount of extra mechanics, skills, objectives and such.
Or there is concurrently another Zelda game in development for a new platform.
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Post by Fake_Blood on Mar 28, 2023 9:15:53 GMT
Restarted Botw for the 5th time after giving up after a few hours all the previous times. It’s still not my cup of tea, I like a bit more hand holding, still bugs me that it takes forever to do anything. Like it all feels very dilute, but you’re just happy to get to something resembling a temple or village because it took you 45 minutes to get there. But also, last night I got to a shrine on a cliff on the eastern edge of the map, and the lighting and music was just right, so I just stood there panning the camera around, wondering how they got this running on a mobile processor that was old when it launched in 2017. It’s never going to be my favourite zelda, but I’m starting to get it now.
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Post by Kay on Mar 28, 2023 11:07:28 GMT
Or there is concurrently another Zelda game in development for a new platform. I'd never even considered this, but I doubt that's the case tbh - otherwise surely they would have wanted to finish up TotK and get it out as soon as possible instead of this late into the Switch's lifespan. I do think it's simply a case that the game ended up being larger in scope with more new ideas than they originally had planned, with maybe some issues in development around those new ideas and what they can realistically incorporate (including the potential return of dungeons and other things that fans were clamouring for) etc. Obviously covid played a part too with the delays, but following up on BotW was always going to be a massive task. Edit: just realised I've ended up repeating what you said in the first part of your post anyway! Never mind.
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Post by Derblington on Mar 28, 2023 11:17:30 GMT
Quality takes a lot of time when it's done the Nintendo way. I expect we'll see BotW as the base, with new mechanics and parts of the world, with all new assets in terms of puzzles and some locations, but a lot of time will be spent making sure it all works in their physics and elemental systems that underpin the BotW sandbox.
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Post by ricesandwich on Mar 28, 2023 14:20:14 GMT
That was an interesting sneak peak at TOTK. It looks like they have dived deeper into weapon durability and mixing and matching all sorts of crazy stuff to make an even more sophisticated sandbox. I haven't even remotely finished BOTW or beaten a single boss yet, so I should probably finish it first before even looking at TOTK.
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Post by rhaegyr on Mar 28, 2023 14:23:52 GMT
Zelda: Nuts and Bolts
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Post by richardiox on Mar 28, 2023 14:30:15 GMT
My fears haven't been alleviated by that new gameplay footage. Way too much like BOTW 1.5 and the "nuts and bolts" mechanic does nothing for me as looks like too much fucking about.
Obviously will still get it and love it but disappointed nonetheless.
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Post by rhaegyr on Mar 28, 2023 14:33:44 GMT
Same - I'm sure I'll love the game as BOTW is the best game I've ever played but I'm no good when games ask me to get creative.
Shame we didn't get any info on Shrines/Divine Beasts and if they're a part of this game (or it they're completely different).
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Post by Youthist on Mar 28, 2023 14:37:12 GMT
No getting away from it - same base game map sounds, after all these years waiting, very disappointing. All that new fiddling and crafting stuff is all well and good but hopefully isn’t as pointless as say Fallout 4s base building. All I really wanted was a completely new Zelda world to inhabit with even just the same abilities but it sounds like we are not getting even close to that here. Surely there is more to this than they are showing after all this time?
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Post by ricesandwich on Mar 28, 2023 14:40:55 GMT
It's too early to draw any conclusions as to what is or isn't in the game. It might be chock full of dungeons, shrines or something completely new. We'll just have to wait and see. There certainly seem to be a divide between those who want a traditional Zelda game and those who want a bigger sandbox. I enjoy the sandbox aspects of the game so I'm happy with what they showed. Come to think of it, the Zelda games I have enjoyed most are those on handheld platforms. I don't think I have ever finished a 3D Zelda game.
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Post by Wizzard_Ook on Mar 28, 2023 14:51:39 GMT
Think it is clear they are still holding a lot of cards to their chests. Quite happy with what they showed. I’m not the most imaginative either when it comes to creating things in games (not sure why as I’m Quite creative outside games) but I got really absorbed by pretty much every aspect of botw so I’m all in.
That oled looks pretty sexy too.
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Post by bichii2 on Mar 28, 2023 14:55:24 GMT
All these gameplay demos are so cringe. I'm sure the game will be amazing. Nothing like adding an eye ball to your arrows. So I guess I can also add those purple guts things to my shield and fly.
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Post by dangerousdave on Mar 28, 2023 14:58:19 GMT
It is just one aspect of the game they've shown off so far. They've teased so much more in the trailers with mines, overworld bosses, etc...
This does very much look like a sequel though. That is to say, it looks like it was made specifically for fans of Breath of the Wild. It might feel a bit overwhelming for anyone that hasn't played at least a chunk of that first.
Will also say that, until Breath of the Wild, I always prefered 2D Zelda to the 3D stuff.
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Post by quadfather on Mar 28, 2023 15:01:16 GMT
While it's the same sized map, it's also being used vertically this time more as well as horizontal though, no?
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Post by Frog on Mar 28, 2023 15:05:03 GMT
Anyone else would be absolutely hammered for reusing a map no matter what was added
Especially as they put the price up too
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Post by Tuffty on Mar 28, 2023 15:08:38 GMT
The level of development and testing needed on that must be pretty extensive. Fusing every combination of in game objects, fusable weapons, what possibilites can be done, collission detection with the Ascend ability to ensure you emerge at the right place and don't get stuck, in addition to what I assume will be all the abilities carried over from the first game plus whatever else they're not showing us, all in the huge open world plus the islands in the sky. People are still pulling off some impressive feats in BOTW, all this means it's gonna get super crazy.
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Post by quadfather on Mar 28, 2023 15:18:46 GMT
Just watched the trailer.
Totally sold. Can't wait.
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Post by dangerousdave on Mar 28, 2023 15:29:18 GMT
Anyone else would be absolutely hammered for reusing a map no matter what was added Especially as they put the price up too I think that's probably because of how little anyone else could be trusted to pull that off! I remember Crackdown 2 did the same thing, but that game was terrible.
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Post by dangerousdave on Mar 28, 2023 15:39:33 GMT
I will say, I'm excited, but I don't know if I'll enjoy this as much as the original. Time will tell, but having put 350 hours into the original, its gonna have to do a lot more than I would expect of most games.
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Post by Derblington on Mar 28, 2023 15:41:17 GMT
It depends on what the game is doing with it too. Far Cry Primal reused the FC4 map for no reason other than dev time/cost saving, and that’s cheap from a consumer perspective. FC New Dawn reuses FC5’s map because it’s dealing with the same location and humanity rebuilding after the nuke. That makes sense.
Every Zelda game remakes Hyrule over and over. With TotK being a direct sequel to BotW there’s no need or point in rebuilding it, but they do obviously need to add to it.
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Post by Kay on Mar 28, 2023 16:51:50 GMT
They've done this before with Zelda - A Link Between Worlds pretty much reused the same map as A Link to the Past, and turned out to be a fantastic game in its own right with some neat twists to the existing game map (and the Zelda formula).
This seems to be doing something similar - they're obviously expanding on the sandbox gameplay/physics simulation aspect of the game, which was already pretty impressive in BotW. The whole "if you can think of something, you can do it" concept will be taken to the next level with all the fusing stuff, and I'm sure the new powers will be utilised well with some creative puzzling.
I'm still confident the game underneath will be pretty special too. It probably won't have the same impact overall as BotW, but still could end up being a better version of that game.
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Post by quadfather on Mar 28, 2023 17:05:03 GMT
Is there any difference in quality between a launch switch and an oled switch if its permanently docked. Assume not as its the switch's screen that's improved, but are there any other upgrades that would benefit over a vanilla one?
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Post by Kay on Mar 28, 2023 17:07:40 GMT
I think aside from the dock having an ethernet port, it should be exactly the same experience. The only major improvements are to handheld gameplay (not just with the screen, but also improved battery life).
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Post by dfunked on Mar 28, 2023 17:18:24 GMT
I'm quite glad now that I never went back to BotW for a second playthrough. Feels like enough time has passed that a slightly switched up map will feel fairly fresh.
I'm sure I'd be in the pissed off camp now I'd I'd played it recently.
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Post by Derblington on Mar 28, 2023 17:26:54 GMT
I don’t really understand that. I’m actually thinking about starting it again to play through before 2 launches, partly because it’s great and party so that I can readily recognise the changes that the game brings.
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Post by Youthist on Mar 28, 2023 17:33:28 GMT
Same - I'm sure I'll love the game as BOTW is the best game I've ever played but I'm no good when games ask me to get creative. Shame we didn't get any info on Shrines/Divine Beasts and if they're a part of this game (or it they're completely different). Oh look I made a car - I can now traverse the (6 year old) map just like I could on my horse. Yay I am being too negative. I bet it’s awesome!
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Post by Resident Knievel on Mar 28, 2023 17:44:02 GMT
My biggest worry was that we won't have the sense of discovery and wonder that a first time playthrough of BOTW brought with it, but the new mechanics shown today offer huge room for experimentation so that should help alleviate that worry.
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Post by bichii2 on Mar 28, 2023 17:51:38 GMT
In botw was there a way to report your horse to you? My horse could never hear me and I'd always ditch him because he could navigate pebbles or one inch ledges.
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Post by damagedinc on Mar 28, 2023 18:01:59 GMT
How spoilt are we..this looks great and if its even half the game botw was then we're in for a treat.
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