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Post by wunty on Aug 1, 2024 10:03:50 GMT
Soooo close. Still an amazing result and achievement though.
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Post by Danno on Aug 1, 2024 10:07:38 GMT
One of the crew is only getting a bronze according to the BBC card. Oops.
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Post by Bill in the rain on Aug 1, 2024 10:13:40 GMT
The one at the back, I guess.
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Post by wunty on Aug 1, 2024 10:20:08 GMT
And bronze for the men’s four! Three finals, three medals. Awesome.
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Post by jimnastics on Aug 1, 2024 11:21:33 GMT
I dunno what to say about this Algerian trans boxer situation... other competitors literally have no chance, the Italian woman gave up within 45 seconds after taking two big hits. How sports like boxing are going to deal with this going forward is anyone's guess!
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Post by Trowel 🏴 on Aug 1, 2024 11:24:46 GMT
One of our team had to drop off a call earlier to... do a radio interview?
Turns out he coached one of the women rowers who won bronze earlier 😂
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Post by Duffking on Aug 1, 2024 11:32:11 GMT
I dunno what to say about this Algerian trans boxer situation... other competitors literally have no chance, the Italian woman gave up within 45 seconds after taking two big hits. How sports like boxing are going to deal with this going forward is anyone's guess! Are they actually trans? I had assumed it was a Caster Semenya situation where they were born female but someone arbitrarily decided they weren't womanly enough. |
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Post by jimnastics on Aug 1, 2024 11:40:41 GMT
I dunno what to say about this Algerian trans boxer situation... other competitors literally have no chance, the Italian woman gave up within 45 seconds after taking two big hits. How sports like boxing are going to deal with this going forward is anyone's guess! Are they actually trans? I had assumed it was a Caster Semenya situation where they were born female but someone arbitrarily decided they weren't womanly enough. Hmmm good question... amongst all the shitposting online I can't actually find out the truth. |
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Post by jimnastics on Aug 1, 2024 11:46:43 GMT
Are they actually trans? I had assumed it was a Caster Semenya situation where they were born female but someone arbitrarily decided they weren't womanly enough. Hmmm good question... amongst all the shitposting online I can't actually find out the truth. A lot of reporting is saying she was born male so I assumed trans, but apparently she was acutally born female but it was discovered in 2023 she had XY chromosone. Defo sounds like a Semenya situation... |
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Post by Vandelay on Aug 1, 2024 11:49:02 GMT
From my brief reading, IBA chair said she had an XY chromosome in regards to her 2023 ban, but IOC said it was due to increased levels of testosterone above the limit.
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Post by muddyfunster on Aug 1, 2024 11:49:21 GMT
It's a really uncomfortable situation and it's highlighting the shortcomings of the current regs. They just don't adequately account for a testosterone advantage during puberty that exceeds female norms. Even if a person's levels are artificially suppressed later in life they've still had that genetic, natural advantage.
You could reasonably argue how is that different from being genetically lucky in other ways, and haven't these athletes had to deal with more than their fair share of adversity in their lives already given their circumstances.
It's hard but I don't see how you can watch this happening and not conclude that athletes born female and going through puberty as women are at a serious disadvantage. They will be denied a chance to ever compete for the biggest prizes in power sports. This is ultimately why gender categories exist in the first place. Something has to be done. Glad it's not my job to sort it out. Through well meaning efforts at inclusivity others are being excluded.
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Post by grey_matters on Aug 1, 2024 12:27:23 GMT
She also boxed in Tokyo in 2020 where she did well enough but was beaten in the QFs. She was much lighter then compared to now though, she really looks different. Could be a classic drugs thing, could be a Semenya-like situation but where the extra testosterone is being leveraged to beef her up a lot. I'mguessing it's yet another kind of awkward edge-case scenario to think about rather than a decider in a trans-rights argument.
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Post by X201 on Aug 1, 2024 12:54:22 GMT
The sailing always tickles me, the start hooter goes and everyone heads off in different directions 😆
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Post by X201 on Aug 1, 2024 13:01:33 GMT
Oooh, major events in the sailing.
Medal race abandoned due to unfair weather conditions
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Post by starchildhypocrethes on Aug 1, 2024 13:18:30 GMT
I always really enjoy watching handball and volleyball every 4 years. Shame no-one’s ever really given a rat’s cock about either over here.
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Post by hicksy on Aug 1, 2024 13:20:21 GMT
(Boaty Mc Boatrace) So boring they had no option but to abandon it. A well organised swarm of gnat's farts would have propelled the boats quicker.
Have they not seen the Portsmouth to Isle of Wight hovercraft? A well lined course of the rear end of those babies would have the boats flying across the water like bats out of hell.
/trademarks idea for future olympics
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Post by brokenkey on Aug 1, 2024 13:37:26 GMT
You guys have been missing out, you should have been watching www.xgames.com/ for the past 15 years  Ooo. There's one in Chiba in September. Didn't know that. Bet it's sold out already... but would it be so amazing if you could watch it all the time, rather than just every 4 years? |
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Post by Duffking on Aug 1, 2024 13:59:50 GMT
I always really enjoy watching handball and volleyball every 4 years. Shame no-one’s ever really given a rat’s cock about either over here. I actually played handball for a few years. Took it up while doing postgrad stuff at uni then played for the team in Brighton for a while until I broke my foot and decide I should probably stop. |
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Post by Wizzard_Ook on Aug 1, 2024 14:09:57 GMT
You guys have been missing out, you should have been watching www.xgames.com/ for the past 15 years Ooo. There's one in Chiba in September. Didn't know that. Bet it's sold out already... but would it be so amazing if you could watch it all the time, rather than just every 4 years? They should bring back grandstand and err.. no pun intended Trabs world sport. |
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Post by Danno on Aug 1, 2024 14:15:11 GMT
They should bring back Trans World Sport for the meltdowns alone.
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Post by Bill in the rain on Aug 1, 2024 14:16:31 GMT
You guys have been missing out, you should have been watching www.xgames.com/ for the past 15 years Ooo. There's one in Chiba in September. Didn't know that. Bet it's sold out already... but would it be so amazing if you could watch it all the time, rather than just every 4 years? Well, it's only once a year (for the summer ones).
Though they seem to have added a Japan one as well recently. Which is great for me!  |
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Post by KD on Aug 1, 2024 14:59:24 GMT
They should bring back Trans World Sport for the meltdowns alone. It still exists, cant remember where I seen it but it found a home after Channle 4 stopped showing it.
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Post by cristar on Aug 1, 2024 15:13:51 GMT
I always really enjoy watching handball and volleyball every 4 years. Shame no-one’s ever really given a rat’s cock about either over here. I played Volleyball competitively for 10 years in Ireland, where there are two leagues in Northern Ireland and an all Ireland league which we qualified whenever we won the top NI division. As well as competing for Ulster. Played a number of Tournaments accross the water in England and Scotland too. And a bit of beach with my brother too. It's just that the level isn't that high. Our league team was half made up of Polish players. I am enjoying watching it too. USA vs Serbia in the 6 aside was a brilliant match last night. |
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Post by Psiloc on Aug 1, 2024 15:59:20 GMT
So true about the shitposting. I saw it all on Twitter first (*spit*) and thought yeah, that’s a bit iffy, but having tried to verify it I can’t find a source I trust that even says she is trans
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Post by Danno on Aug 1, 2024 16:05:56 GMT
Gosh.
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Post by Whizzo on Aug 1, 2024 16:14:32 GMT
"I have great respect for your boxing legacy, I just don't know anything about it."
At least that Twitter user didn't delete the Tweet, they deleted their entire account instead.
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Post by Danno on Aug 1, 2024 16:24:29 GMT
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Post by Tuffty on Aug 1, 2024 17:27:55 GMT
So if Khelif is deemed too manly for Women's Boxing but not man enough for Male Boxing, what category is she meant to fight in? I'd imagine if you ask all the detractors they'd just say none at all just because of their hatred of trans people in general, but she's not even trans!
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Post by Duffking on Aug 1, 2024 17:37:52 GMT
So she's not even trans?
Must be confusing being one of those cunts whose been yellow "a woman is someone born with a vagina" at the moment if they're also complaining about this.
Honestly if she's not trans they seriously need to get the fuck over it, oh noes someone has a physical advantage making them better suited to sports.
Should they also have banned Michael Phelps for being born with an abnormally long torso and arms relative to his legs because it's so unfaiiiir.
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Post by Tuffty on Aug 1, 2024 18:00:40 GMT
As someone pointed out, being LGBT in Algeria is punishable with a prison sentence. So why would they send a trans woman to officially represent them?
Simone Biles my word, she is just a generational talent.
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