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Post by rhaegyr on Jan 11, 2024 8:32:03 GMT
Great episode - as someone new to the series who's played a ton of Mafia/Werewolf/Secret Hitler etc. in the past this is absolute catnip!
Harry's playing a blinder - think it'll be a while until he gets rumbled. Ruthless too.
Ash was awful at this game - when people were accusing Paul she should've jumped on the bandwagon but she accuses some random person instead? After he's already tried to throw her to the wolves once? Come on.
My favourite part of the whole thing may be people saying "I know 100% 'X' is not a traitor" whilst talking about a traitor.
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Post by Binky on Jan 11, 2024 9:22:41 GMT
Anthony's card reveal was cgi'd. It was. What was with that? Was he holding it upside down or something? (If so - so what!) Odd. |
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Post by deez on Jan 11, 2024 9:39:02 GMT
I didn't notice that... Maybe he changed his mind and it was scribbled out and unclear or something?
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Post by Trowel 🏴 on Jan 11, 2024 10:00:23 GMT
Weird
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Post by rhaegyr on Jan 11, 2024 10:01:52 GMT
I didn't notice that... Maybe he changed his mind and it was scribbled out and unclear or something? Think this is the case - noticed a few boards like that. |
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Post by simple on Jan 11, 2024 10:06:06 GMT
It would make sense if it was to clear up a smudgy mess.
If it had been in series 1 it probably would’ve been down to him being incapable of spelling her name properly.
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Post by askew on Jan 11, 2024 21:29:19 GMT
“Young, dumb, and fun”? Not sure if that’s the phrase.
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Post by X201 on Jan 11, 2024 21:46:12 GMT
Zac you knob, you’re fighting one of your allies
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Post by Whizzo on Jan 11, 2024 22:00:18 GMT
How only a few of them have seen through Paul is a mystery, his to camera stuff is so fucking weird I wouldn't be surprised if he was a serial killer in reality.
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Post by loto on Jan 11, 2024 22:02:03 GMT
There’s a couple of very unlikeable characters and Zack is one of them. He’s a knob
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Post by Resident Knievel on Jan 11, 2024 22:10:13 GMT
I was hopeful they'd continue to avoid dog piling on to people that annoy them and vote for the ones they think are actually traitors after watching the first few eps but those hopes are getting dashed.
If Meg walked through the door at breakfast she would have 100% been banished tonight, Paul's really getting away with it and I bet he's there to the end. He's giving off similar vibes to Will from last year.
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It feels like Paul being a traitor is a 50/50 mathematically after the outcome of the dungeon trial (even though it's not) which is better than guessing randomly, I'm hoping Antony can latch on to that and convince the others with it.
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Post by Whizzo on Jan 11, 2024 22:19:15 GMT
The clever play with the dungeon was for no traitors to go in, everyone would assume some would have gone in as cover and it would throw everyone off them.
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Post by loto on Jan 11, 2024 22:22:28 GMT
I like Antony, but he can be a bit abrasive and I think some are wary of him. I don’t think he’s considered a traitor, but I don’t think they’ll follow him either
We need the women to step up, they seem too passive and some parts of that episode felt more like Love island with the hugging and consoling.
I had high hopes for Diane, but she’s not the force she was at the start
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Post by simple on Jan 11, 2024 22:33:43 GMT
The clever play with the dungeon was for no traitors to go in, everyone would assume some would have gone in as cover and it would throw everyone off them. Yeah, the remaining faithful would drive themselves nuts trying to wade through that level of 5D chess. I did feel for that young lad tonight. Even if he did pounce on an opportunity he didn’t actually need to take. How Paul is getting away with it is crazy. I think when things go south for him it’ll go hard fast. |
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Post by X201 on Jan 11, 2024 22:37:16 GMT
It feels like Paul being a traitor is a 50/50 mathematically after the outcome of the dungeon trial (even though it's not) which is better than guessing randomly, If you run through every combination, even Andrew being a traitor and Paul being faithful, you always end up with the same question. Why is Paul still here? |
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Post by simple on Jan 11, 2024 22:40:12 GMT
On Ed Gamble’s show (which does draw back the curtain slightly further than I’d like) they were talking about how Paul was so good at using real emotions but whenever he does it he looks so phoney
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Post by Trowel 🏴 on Jan 11, 2024 22:55:17 GMT
As much as I enjoy the traitors aspect, they really need to rethink the work team bonding day format of the missions.
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Post by simple on Jan 11, 2024 23:03:12 GMT
I suppose the shields are a way of trying to do it but one of the big problems with the tasks is that there’s no reason for anyone to act suspiciously in any way. They’re all there for the money so the idea that a traitor wouldn’t pull their weight makes no sense.
But with the games being formatted the way they are there isn’t really an easy way to do that unless you start adding individual financial incentives for undermining the faithful alongside immunity
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Post by Deleted on Jan 11, 2024 23:05:19 GMT
Am I the only one that wants The Traitors to actually win?
Think the young kid is playing a blinder so far, initially thinking he'd a be awful too. Got Traitors to faithful all on his side.
Paul will get found out and think the young kid could go against him and solidify a win.
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Post by X201 on Jan 11, 2024 23:12:15 GMT
Harry and Miles need to realise that Paul will throw them under the bus in the blink of an eye. They need to team up and ditch him pretty soon.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 11, 2024 23:16:15 GMT
It will happen even without their involvement, they just need to be smart when the writings on the wall. Like they all did with Ash.
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Post by Resident Knievel on Jan 11, 2024 23:40:42 GMT
Will managed to worm his way out of trouble when he'd been in the firing line a couple of times last series via mental breakdowns, I get the feeling Paul will do the same.
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Post by rhaegyr on Jan 12, 2024 8:04:33 GMT
Harry is playing a blinder - doesn't hurt that he's a good looking young lad in the forces (though it didn't help Johnny much).
Miles looks constantly uncomfortable - he's going the Ash route and I think when the spotlight eventually turns on him he'll wilt fairly quickly.
I'm not sure who I want to win yet - I quite like Harry but I also like a few of the faithful.
I may be the only person to actually like Zack too - well, I like that he has a bit of backbone and isn't as susceptible to groupthink as much as the others are.
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Post by rhaegyr on Jan 12, 2024 8:05:49 GMT
Jaz and Anthony came out of their shell a bit last night too - quite liked that.
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Post by simple on Jan 12, 2024 8:14:12 GMT
I like Zack too
The annoying thing about Jonny’s banishment is that all of the reasoning was spot on, they’d just applied it to the wrong person.
Miles looks like he knows Paul is running the game and that’s he’s got no power or influence. Definitely getting Ashed soon.
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Post by rhaegyr on Jan 12, 2024 8:46:38 GMT
The only thing that does my head in is all this "I love you so much" talk amongst practically complete strangers. Cringe.
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Post by loto on Jan 12, 2024 9:16:09 GMT
I like Jaz a lot; he’s got a good way about him and we’ve got the benefit of knowing he’s right about Paul.
His days will be numbered though with who he chooses to share his theory with…
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Post by simple on Jan 12, 2024 9:28:40 GMT
Killing Jaz feels like it’d be quite suspect at the moment but Paul could use Miles and Harry (and Charlotte since she seems extremely easily led) to sow “what if its a double-bluff from Jaz” type doubts and see if banishment might be safer
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Post by Deleted on Jan 12, 2024 9:30:28 GMT
Zack is an idiot, he was the only one that thought Ash was definitely a faithful and routinely gets it wrong. Hate how he constantly talks over others and gets a sulk on when people do it to him too.
I want Harry to win, and wouldn't even mind Paul to win. He's playing to win, just think he's overthought everything and think he's cleverer than everyone else. Jaz has his number though, he's just far too quiet about everything.
I constantly forget there is 2 blonde ladies until one speaks in a Scottish accent and the other mentions about a hearing aid. They're the same person in my head.
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Post by simple on Jan 12, 2024 9:36:54 GMT
I had the same problem telling woman from Bristol and the Scottish one apart. Neither of them has really done anything that’s been worth keeping in the edit so I don’t think we’re to blame there.
I had Ross and Brian mixed up a bit early on too.
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