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Post by X201 on Jan 25, 2024 22:06:40 GMT
It’s going to need an almighty turnaround tomorrow.
Faithfuls only hope is making sure Jaz doesn’t have decaf coffee in the morning.
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Post by Whizzo on Jan 25, 2024 22:06:41 GMT
I just don't understand how absolutely no one brought up that Harry having the shield didn't mean a murder was foiled as one may not have even been attempted. Fucking Charlotte not picking up the shield when it was right in front of her has screwed the dim faithfuls.
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Post by deez on Jan 25, 2024 22:12:19 GMT
So Jaz has to finally go after Harry tomorrow, if he's successful in convincing the others they will be so smug that Andrew will waltz his way to the victory by not doing much.
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Post by Onny on Jan 25, 2024 22:18:58 GMT
Very disappointed with the sword “power”. I was hoping it would mean an immediate banishment or something. The actual power was quite boring.
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Post by simple on Jan 25, 2024 22:49:07 GMT
I’m disappointed that the sword was barely longer than a breadknife.
If both traitors get to the firepit then its game over because the faithful will probably stop voting if they catch one.
To me the faithful need an alignment of some or all of:
1. A traitor eliminated at the roundtable
2. Jaz and Evie both reaching the firepit
3. The traitors trying to implicate one another at roundtable
4. Mollie to see beyond her lust
There might be a very slim chance if both traitors make it to the firepit but only if 3 happens because at this point I don’t think they can target the other without revealing themselves.
Its probably all down to how smart and greedy Harry is feeling.
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Post by X201 on Jan 25, 2024 22:57:45 GMT
Actually thinking about how many traitors might be left would be a brilliant starting point for them.
i.e. Think beyond 1
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Post by Resident Knievel on Jan 25, 2024 23:03:00 GMT
So frustrating that no one but Jaz considers Harry is bluffing and no one thinks it's suspicious the way he went in on Paul and Ross.
Grats to Harry
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Post by simple on Jan 25, 2024 23:03:43 GMT
And I’ve said it before - they need to start realising that maybe the traitors will be acting in a “positive” manner outside of the tower.
If anything being good at tasks etc is more in the traitor’s interests than it is the faithfuls
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Post by Resident Knievel on Jan 25, 2024 23:08:09 GMT
I was certain the big talking point this episode would be whether Ross was a traitor from the beginning or not given the Diane reveal, then them twigging he was recruited.
But that didn't appear to happen given what was shown. :/
Edit: I'm criticising them but I'd '100%' be the one breaking down crying about sheep at the round table
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Post by simple on Jan 25, 2024 23:14:27 GMT
I’d be like Zack 5D chessing myself into all the wrong answers
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Post by X201 on Jan 25, 2024 23:16:53 GMT
I’d be chucked out on day one or two for being too quiet, too tall or something like that.
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Post by Vandelay on Jan 25, 2024 23:18:32 GMT
Actually thinking about how many traitors might be left would be a brilliant starting point for them. i.e. Think beyond 1 If they thought with any logic, it would be obvious there is more than 1 traitor left. If they had have successfully picked one at tonight's roundtable, that would leave no traitors for the final episode. The producers aren't going to let that happen, so there has to still be 2. Also, perhaps it is just having the inside knowledge, but Harry declining the money should be massively suspect. Surely only a traitor would decline that offer in order to make themselves look good. If you were a faithful, you know you are likely to be splitting the money anyway and taking 7k out of the pot isn't that big of deduction for everyone when the whole pot is split amongst 2 or 3 others. |
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Post by Resident Knievel on Jan 25, 2024 23:30:09 GMT
That makes sense and adds to the body of evidence against him but "Harry's such a lovely, good looking lad - he couldn't possibly be a traitor!"
I'm less thinking he's played well and more just given off a good vibe in this vibes based show.
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Post by Whizzo on Jan 25, 2024 23:43:06 GMT
I do like how what constitutes "hard evidence" is just vibes, maybe that's what the Met uses when they bang up the wrong person.
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Post by simple on Jan 26, 2024 0:04:25 GMT
Person A gets 6 votes when a traitor is banished with 7
Now we have HARD EVIDENCE that Person A is 100% faithful
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Post by Deleted on Jan 26, 2024 0:20:26 GMT
Harry ftw.
Would like to see Andrew alongside him but think he's gone.
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Post by Onny on Jan 26, 2024 5:56:15 GMT
Actually thinking about how many traitors might be left would be a brilliant starting point for them. i.e. Think beyond 1 If they thought with any logic, it would be obvious there is more than 1 traitor left. If they had have successfully picked one at tonight's roundtable, that would leave no traitors for the final episode. The producers aren't going to let that happen, so there has to still be 2. Also, perhaps it is just having the inside knowledge, but Harry declining the money should be massively suspect. Surely only a traitor would decline that offer in order to make themselves look good. If you were a faithful, you know you are likely to be splitting the money anyway and taking 7k out of the pot isn't that big of deduction for everyone when the whole pot is split amongst 2 or 3 others. Most of the game is a personality contest and at this point you really want people to like you as much as possible - which is why not taking the money was the way to go. It also fell in line with his “noble” persona. |
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Post by simple on Jan 26, 2024 7:26:20 GMT
I think regardless of outcome Harry has to go down as one of the best at being a traitor there’s ever been
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Post by Vandelay on Jan 26, 2024 8:27:51 GMT
If they thought with any logic, it would be obvious there is more than 1 traitor left. If they had have successfully picked one at tonight's roundtable, that would leave no traitors for the final episode. The producers aren't going to let that happen, so there has to still be 2. Also, perhaps it is just having the inside knowledge, but Harry declining the money should be massively suspect. Surely only a traitor would decline that offer in order to make themselves look good. If you were a faithful, you know you are likely to be splitting the money anyway and taking 7k out of the pot isn't that big of deduction for everyone when the whole pot is split amongst 2 or 3 others. Most of the game is a personality contest and at this point you really want people to like you as much as possible - which is why not taking the money was the way to go. It also fell in line with his “noble” persona. I just don't see anyone actually begrudging him taking the money. Assuming 3 faithfuls win, that is only taking £2,333 off the other winners. If it is 4 it is only £1,750. I'm not sure what the prize pot stands at currently (plus there is another task to go to increase it further), but that is going to be a barely noticeable loss from their winnings, whilst having a guaranteed £7k could mean a lot to Harry. You are right though, the group are going off personality a lot. Him not taking the money has played into that narrative they have created for him. I still don't think anyone would have seen him taking the money and suddenly decided he was a traitor for doing so though. |
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Post by Tomo on Jan 26, 2024 8:35:16 GMT
The setup for the finale is absolutely delicious. I'm struggling to see how it's going to pan out. So many possibilities for the ending:
- the 'normal' ending which looks like Harry wins by throwing Andrew under the bus and being the last remaining Traitor
- the evil ending where Harry keeps Mollie entirely onside that he's Fateful and in combination with Andrew they outnumber and eliminate Jaz and Evie. Leaving Mollie's brain to explode when she finds out Harry isn't 100% Fateful.
- the IQ200 ending where Andrew gets booted and then Jaz reveals his hand which makes Mollie do a 180 and Evie plays along leading to Harry being ousted and the Faithfuls win.
- the IQ100 ending where Jaz reveals his hand, Harry gets booted but Andrew slips under the radar and is the last remaining Traitor
- the Deleted Ending where Evie's dominating influence leads to Andrew and Harry being toppled, the Faithfuls win and Evie goes on to be an inspirational panelist on Loose Women
- the Lightbulb ending where Mollie finally realises Harry is on the gameshow as well and orchestrates his downfall, winners pending Andrew having some form of meltdown or not
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Post by Tomo on Jan 26, 2024 8:39:26 GMT
Can't fucking wait for it tonight tho \o/
Asstemps cranked as they say
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Post by simple on Jan 26, 2024 8:51:04 GMT
Do you think they have a therapist on the crew for when people like Mollie have their brains exploded like Love Island and Big Brother claim to?
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Post by Trowel 🏴 on Jan 26, 2024 8:54:10 GMT
Actually thinking about how many traitors might be left would be a brilliant starting point for them. i.e. Think beyond 1 If they thought with any logic, it would be obvious there is more than 1 traitor left. If they had have successfully picked one at tonight's roundtable, that would leave no traitors for the final episode. The producers aren't going to let that happen, so there has to still be 2. I kind of wish the producers might one day be brave enough to engineer the final having no traitors, just for the heartbreaking paranoid maelstrom that would create. |
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Post by Resident Knievel on Jan 26, 2024 9:11:16 GMT
I think Jaz is waiting until series 3 to reveal his theories about Harry
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Post by simple on Jan 26, 2024 9:23:07 GMT
Do you think you get sent home after being eliminated or do they get to hang around the Travelodge they’re really sleeping in and follow the drama from a production office?
I genuinely think that in the moment I’d be more sad about not being able to play anymore than I would about missing the money. The cash doesn’t seem to feel real until the last day or two.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 26, 2024 9:25:35 GMT
Zack saw the money slip away last minute and you could actually see his soul getting crushed.
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Post by Whizzo on Jan 26, 2024 9:38:27 GMT
I think Jaz is waiting until series 3 to reveal his theories about Harry That soon? |
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Post by rhaegyr on Jan 26, 2024 9:52:43 GMT
Great episode but I'm worried it'll be a procession for Harry.
Evie's got a ton of heat on her due to Zack's ridiculous theory so she's likely to be voted off.
Andrew still has heat on him from Mollie in particular - Harry will vote with Mollie to get Andrew out.
Jaz, Mollie and Harry left. Mollie will be certain that all traitors are gone and Harry will back that up. Even Jaz may be convinced.
All depends on Jaz really - what happens if he wants to vote when there's three of them left if Harry and Mollie don't?
Damnit Jaz - RELEASE THE CAGED TIGER!
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Post by simple on Jan 26, 2024 10:03:07 GMT
If it ends up being Jaz, Mollie and Harry and the firepit works the way it has in previous series it’ll be very interesting.
Because if he votes to keep the gaming running it means for Mollie either Harry is a traitor or Harry and Jaz are both traitors and Jaz is making a run for the whole prize pot. I can also see a version of that situation where he doesn’t think Mollie will play and he gives in and lets Harry win but I don’t think its likely, because Harry has to be questioned at roundtable and that might be enough to give her a tiny wobble.
I genuinely think that might be the only scenario in which she realises the truth during the game. Unless Andrew comes out swinging and does a Kieron.
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Post by Tomo on Jan 26, 2024 10:30:07 GMT
Do you think you get sent home after being eliminated or do they get to hang around the Travelodge they’re really sleeping in and follow the drama from a production office? Some tidbits on the production here: www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-68097755Sounds like the production is a tightly run ship. |
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