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Post by rhaegyr on Jan 25, 2024 8:56:25 GMT
Harry's acting a bit of a smug prick but who can blame him? Everyone else is playing a shit game and he's playing a blinder.
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Post by mothercruncher on Jan 25, 2024 9:00:10 GMT
The smug prick factor makes me want him to lose.
But then I’m not sure I care if any of the others win, maybe Andrew, so…
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Post by Binky on Jan 25, 2024 9:09:48 GMT
Yeah exactly. How nobody has caught him smirking and outright laughing at the table yet is beyond me! Hiding in plain sight.
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Post by rhaegyr on Jan 25, 2024 9:10:57 GMT
There's a sexism argument doing the rounds at the minute as the traitors have always picked men to recruit and women to murder.
It doesn't look good and does raise some questions but I also remember how shit Ash was at being a traitor and also how off the mark most of the women have been when it comes to deducing. The men haven't been much better mind but at least Zack and Jaz have hit the targets occasionally.
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Post by simple on Jan 25, 2024 9:17:10 GMT
I can totally see where the sexism argument comes from and I do think there have been some women who’d be excellent traitors and men who could’ve been chopped among the faithful but each individual decision they’ve made in isolation has made sense.
The cumulative effect does indicate some kind of unconscious bias at least though.
Interesting that Claudia called it out on the show and has apparently done in interviews since too.
When Harry was behind Paul I wanted him to win but in the two days since he’s become a massive prick so now I’m fully behind Andrew. I do still think there’s a very straightforward path for a faithful win but they’re (not Jaz maybe but no one listens to him. Jasmine suspects too but Zack and Ross have killed her chances) completely blind to it so need a traitor on traitor conflict.
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Post by Whizzo on Jan 25, 2024 10:12:00 GMT
Andrew winning would be rather funny, he's been mostly ignored as a threat by everyone, probably they just see him as a Welsh meathead but he's not an idiot.
Why Ross went for him last night was weird, he knew he was fucked so he should have stuck the knife in Harry.
Given Ross and Diane are D&D players (it's mentioned on the BBC Sounds bit of Uncloaked) clearly Ross's Wisdom stat is sub 11.
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Post by simple on Jan 25, 2024 11:09:31 GMT
I think Ross might be the worst traitor in any of the four series I’ve watched. Its almost impressive to engineer your own elimination in less than a day like that.
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Post by Vandelay on Jan 25, 2024 11:24:31 GMT
To be fair to Ross, he was on a knife's edge already. Even if he played it well, he was likely to go. He played it in the worst possible way, of course, but it was always a tall order to squeak out of that one.
I was really surprised when they went for him instead of Jasmine. Having three traitors in the final would have been a massive boon for them and I expect she would have survived until then (whilst also being an easy one to backstab if needs be). It might have been sexism, but I expect it was more the fact that Harry got greedy and has his eye on the prize all for himself. Ross was pretty much always going, so it was just a good opportunity to get everyone feeling good that they found another traitor and for Harry to appear the hero again.
If Harry gets a chance to oust Andrew, he will take it.
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Post by rhaegyr on Jan 25, 2024 11:30:58 GMT
He seems like such a likable guy but he was awful at the game on both sides, no question.
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Post by rhaegyr on Jan 25, 2024 11:36:32 GMT
What happens if there's two traitors in the final four? How does the final ousting work (if at all)?
Could Andrew say "look, we're both traitors so you Faithful have lost anyway but Harry is a massive wanker so let's get him out"?
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Post by Vandelay on Jan 25, 2024 11:40:13 GMT
I can't remember how the final worked exactly, but they do this thing around the firepit where they have to decide if there are any traitors left or not and kick them out there. If they decide no traitors are left and there is then the traitors win and the split the money with how many of them are left.
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Post by rhaegyr on Jan 25, 2024 11:46:23 GMT
Harry's nailed on to win then.
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Post by rhaegyr on Jan 25, 2024 12:02:54 GMT
Unless someone asks "why weren't you killed tonight Harry when you didn't have the shield?".
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Post by Deleted on Jan 25, 2024 12:07:47 GMT
Not getting the Harry hate, he's playing a Traitor well and enjoying the game. The VT bits of him being smug are just playing up to the role of a traitor.
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Post by rhaegyr on Jan 25, 2024 12:13:41 GMT
I don't think anyone hates him, more that it's frustrating that nobody is on his level when it comes to playing the game.
Nobody wants to see any easy win from either side.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 25, 2024 12:15:55 GMT
I just want to see Mollie and Zacks face when he reveals he's the traitor. Going to be amazing tv.
I do think Andrew being a flappy bastard as soon as someone questions him will make him just blurt out Harry is basically a traitor.
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Post by rhaegyr on Jan 25, 2024 12:19:42 GMT
God I'd love for Mollie to do a complete 180 at the end and vote Harry out.
"I knew what you were trying to do and I didn't buy it for a second".
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Post by Binky on Jan 25, 2024 12:21:52 GMT
I'm just pleased that Ross's "Easter egg for you" wasn't him just straight up giving the game away. I'm sure that was what happened at the end of S1 and it ruined the end a bit.
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Post by rhaegyr on Jan 25, 2024 12:24:02 GMT
Yeah - I've read somewhere that basically if they ruin the game they're wide open to be sued.
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Post by mothercruncher on Jan 25, 2024 12:29:49 GMT
If you need more traitorism and don’t mind the American flavour (and Alan Cumming’s accent 😳) you’ll see women can be really bloody excellent at the game.
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Post by rhaegyr on Jan 25, 2024 12:31:11 GMT
I'll be checking out both the US and Aus versions of this as soon as the UK one is done (much to the chagrin of my other half who likes it but it sick of me talking about it non-stop).
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Post by Deleted on Jan 25, 2024 12:36:53 GMT
It's quite funny how they all blatantly hate Zack and how he doesn't give a shit. Wonder if he would have made a good Traitor.
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Post by Trowel 🏴 on Jan 25, 2024 12:37:23 GMT
I didn't like that Claudia confirmed no one got the shield. I know it was only Jaz and Andrew who could have, but it's a tactical question simplified for the murder - I don't think the contestants should ever know whether or not shields were won unless the holders choose to say.
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Post by rhaegyr on Jan 25, 2024 12:38:46 GMT
Evie's got to show something, right? Or is she just a useful idiot?
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Post by Deleted on Jan 25, 2024 12:39:11 GMT
Claudia makes my eyes itchy every time I see her.
But yeah, I agree. It would add another layer to who the Traitors potentially murder and give even more paranoia to the faithfuls if it's not disclosed.
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Post by Vandelay on Jan 25, 2024 12:55:37 GMT
Not getting the Harry hate, he's playing a Traitor well and enjoying the game. The VT bits of him being smug are just playing up to the role of a traitor. I was cheering him on up to and including his backstab on Paul. That was beautiful. Thought he deserved to win for that moment, but he pretty quickly became a cocky shit, going on about how smart he is and referring to the other traitors as his baby traitors. His shield play also felt like a huge unnecessary risk. The fact he got away with it felt less like good play and more like the others are stupid. It feels like he is almost guaranteed to win now, so I think a lot of us are just hoping something will come along to put some roadblock in his path to avoid the last couple of episodes being a bit dull. |
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Post by rhaegyr on Jan 25, 2024 13:02:13 GMT
If only Aubrey was still here - he knew from day dot.
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Post by Trowel 🏴 on Jan 25, 2024 13:27:34 GMT
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Post by X201 on Jan 25, 2024 13:41:37 GMT
To be honest I’m glad that they tend to clear out the Woo, merchants and aura readers pretty early.
It’s horrible watching the lack of logic from the Faithful, but it would be unbearable if there was someone in there claiming bollocks about a Traitor’s aura after the event. (Always after the event)
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Post by Deleted on Jan 25, 2024 13:44:58 GMT
Need to get an FG game of Among Us going to see how quickly we'd act like the faithfuls do blaming everyone.
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