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Post by kal on Aug 1, 2023 10:46:23 GMT
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Post by jono62 on Aug 1, 2023 11:01:28 GMT
Great news. I don't play my switch as much as I used to, but I'll be getting this and the new Mario that will inevitably be out with it.
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Post by mrpon on Aug 1, 2023 11:03:00 GMT
Fly off the shelves.
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Post by cubby on Aug 1, 2023 11:05:56 GMT
Pump it into my veins!
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Post by askew on Aug 1, 2023 11:08:31 GMT
Power of the Xbox One/PS4, y'say? Switch U?
> debut its next console with an LCD screen rather than OLED in order to cut costs
Oh.
> "some" third-party publishers have suggested including the feature could cannibalise their ability to re-sell older games on Nintendo's new hardware
god forbid you have to create something new...
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Post by uiruki on Aug 1, 2023 11:18:59 GMT
I wouldn't expect too much from any backwards compatibility; I wouldn't be surprised if they just lock it to original Switch specs. There's room for them to surprise but the DSi and New 3DS didn't really benefit older games outside of a better console interface. In fact I wouldn't be completely shocked if they did a Wii U and made you boot into Switch Mode to play old system games.
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Post by JuniorFE on Aug 1, 2023 11:29:35 GMT
Grain of salt with nothing confirmed and all, but yeah I'm not expecting any miracles from backwards comp either. Of course I'm also one of the weirdos that only had very few problems with the Switch's performance to begin with, so maybe I'm not the best person to ask...  (betcha the "publishers" that had a problem with backwards compatibility were literally just Bethesda seeing their chance for another Skyrim port vanishing  ) |
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Post by uiruki on Aug 1, 2023 11:47:07 GMT
That kind of 'just make it like the old system' BC would probably be the easiest for everyone involved but there are definitely games which could benefit from more raw power in the way some late PS4 games did on PS5. I barely ended up playing Shin Megami Tensei 5 in the end because it ran so badly, for example.
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Post by Vandelay on Aug 1, 2023 11:54:14 GMT
On the screen only being LCD and not OLED, are the developers that this info is coming from actually likely to know Nintendo's plans on this?
Could well be that their developer kits are just LCD, but that doesn't necessarily mean that the released product won't be OLED or that there won't be a premium version also releasing with the same internal hardware, but an improved screen.
As for the backward compatibility, again, the article just says some publishers would rather it wasn't, but that doesn't mean Nintendo will listen to them (just as Sony and Microsoft haven't). The only worry with the BC is that Nintendo have done quite nicely re-releasing lots of WiiU games on Switch. I could see them thinking they could do the same again.
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Post by cubby on Aug 1, 2023 12:05:12 GMT
The difference there though is that the Wii U games found a bigger market on the Switch. I'm not sure the trick will work as well this time as the Switch games have sold well.
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Post by Phattso on Aug 1, 2023 12:07:56 GMT
As always with exciting gaming developments more than a year in the future, it's hard to say whether I'll give a shit by the time it comes around. I can say that the Switch is well and truly retired already. The SteamDeck replaced most of its applications for me, and I like the rapid loading of the new consoles too much to go that far back in time now.
Whatever their physical media is for the next one, I hope it's not dog slow!
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Post by JonFE on Aug 1, 2023 12:16:59 GMT
I find it easier to purchase a new console knowing that it is backwards compatible with its predecessor, because I have a huge backlog (that is only getting bigger) and realistically there are only a handful of consoles one can have connected before it becomes a hassle. Also, during the first few months of any console, new and exciting games are usually far and between, so having some older games to play on it (sometimes with an improved experience) makes it worthy.
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Post by jimnastics on Aug 1, 2023 12:17:27 GMT
Grain of salt with nothing confirmed and all, but yeah I'm not expecting any miracles from backwards comp either. Of course I'm also one of the weirdos that only had very few problems with the Switch's performance to begin with, so maybe I'm not the best person to ask... (betcha the "publishers" that had a problem with backwards compatibility were literally just Bethesda seeing their chance for another Skyrim port vanishing )
The only game I remember thinking "well that is fucking terrible" was Hyrule Warriors, that was a proper dog. No problem at all with anything else, but then I don't own any other consoles and only have a mid-range gaming PC! The Switch has been absolutely magnificent, released at a perfect time when my little boy was getting into gaming, and just by proxy of that it got me back into gaming as well. I must have played more games on and put more time into the Switch than all previous consoles combined going back to the PS2 in all honesty. It's probably my #1 console of all time, which I didn't think I'd be saying at 41 years old!
Switch 2 is an easy day 1 no-brainer for me, I cannot wait.
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Post by Phattso on Aug 1, 2023 12:21:38 GMT
I find it easier to purchase a new console knowing that it is backwards compatible with its predecessor, because I have a huge backlog (that is only getting bigger) and realistically there are only a handful of consoles one can have connected before it becomes a hassle. Also, during the first few months of any console, new and exciting games are usually far and between, so having some older games to play on it (sometimes with an improved experience) makes it worthy. I feel the same, although a substantial part of me does miss that clean break. A fresh slate. A new system. If the industry continues down the mobile phone route - consumer friendly as it is, in the main - I think I'll miss that aspect. Thankfully I've kicked my backlog cramming habits, and haven't added substantially to the pile of shame for several years now!  |
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Post by Syrette on Aug 1, 2023 12:24:20 GMT
Also, during the first few months of any console, new and exciting games are usually far and between Especially with Nintendo consoles.  |
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Post by Jambowayoh on Aug 1, 2023 12:27:41 GMT
Concerning BC, I think DF made a very good point that Nvidia don't bake it into their chips so it would be down to Nintendo to specify that or do at a software level. We all know that Nintendo are super, super great when it comes to the technical stuff their competitors have been doing for ages. Glibness aside if they're going to do BC then I think it might be a case of that it only applies to their 1st party efforts ONLY. Anyway I'm looking forward to places like Restera poring over the specs and assuming it's going to have ray tracing, however I do think it's going to have DLSS.
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Post by dangerousdave on Aug 1, 2023 12:36:49 GMT
I’ll be there day one. I’ve always had a soft spot for Nintendo, creatively speaking, but the Switch is my all-time favourite console. Even with the drifting issues and the hugely overloaded eShop, it’s form factor has made it very flexible and it also has, arguably, Nintendo’s strongest software output since the SNES. And then the 3rd party support, which is predominantly indie or ‘mid-tier’ developers gives off PS1 era vibes, in which almost every game felt fresh or like a new idea.
Honestly, if the successor is just more of the same, but with fancier visuals, I’m in. If they can cut back on shovelware and improve controller reliability, all the better.
If it somehow has a portable VR mode too, with head strap, that would be insane.
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Post by Jambowayoh on Aug 1, 2023 12:39:35 GMT
Lol "cut back on shovelware".
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Post by dangerousdave on Aug 1, 2023 12:49:03 GMT
Surely that stuff doesn’t sell well? It just clogs up the store front. I keep reading articles about games I forgot even existed because if you don’t add them to your wish list that week, they’re just gone. There’s so much hentai based stuff and cheap clones popping up every week. It’s crazy.
I miss the first 6 months where you could skim through the releases and make mental notes about what stood out, what you might play next. After that the console just crumbles trying to load thumbnails and you spend 10 minutes looking for something remotely normal.
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Post by Jambowayoh on Aug 1, 2023 12:50:50 GMT
Well they've been doing shovelware earnestly since the Wii sooooo I don't think it's going to stop now, a sale is a sale.
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Post by dfunked on Aug 1, 2023 12:53:33 GMT
Don't think I could go back to a peasant LCD model after using the oled switch.
Who am I kidding... I'll probably preorder it as soon as it's announced.
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Post by askew on Aug 1, 2023 12:54:28 GMT
Perhaps the hardware will be able to make the storefront a 60fps experience. It’s painful watching the panels update.
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Post by Bill in the rain on Aug 1, 2023 13:40:22 GMT
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Post by Aunt Alison on Aug 1, 2023 13:46:45 GMT
Nothing says exciting new hardware like "cutting costs"
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Post by kal on Aug 1, 2023 14:37:43 GMT
Wasn’t there some news recently that Nintendo accounts will carry over to future consoles or something? I’m sure I read something that implied future backwards compatibility and ability to use your library for future consoles.
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Post by uiruki on Aug 1, 2023 14:46:31 GMT
They carried over from the Wii U and 3DS once they unified them as the Nintendo account as well, so that in itself just means you don't have to re-register.
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Post by Chopsen on Aug 1, 2023 14:56:36 GMT
I find it easier to purchase a new console knowing that it is backwards compatible with its predecessor, because I have a huge backlog (that is only getting bigger) and realistically there are only a handful of consoles one can have connected before it becomes a hassle. Also, during the first few months of any console, new and exciting games are usually far and between, so having some older games to play on it (sometimes with an improved experience) makes it worthy. You do you and we're all part of the rich tappesty of life but I find this kind of thinking baffling. The old console doesn't evaporate when a new one comes out. You can still play old games on it. Hell, maybe don't even but the new console if you've got plenty of games on a console you already own you want to play. Also, unless the devs go out of their way to update the game, your playing a game that doesn't take advantage of a platform you've just paid more for. You're all mad! |
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Post by Psiloc on Aug 1, 2023 15:02:52 GMT
As long as it maintains the hybrid console angle, which I hope is a given if people are referring to it as Switch 2, then I'm going to be happy enough.
Worst case for me as a console gamer is that Japanese Nintendo fans gets segregated onto their handhelds again and I get another stupid home console with waggle or some other dumb gimmick. Any other company would recognise the success the Switch had at bringing everything together again, but truthfully there is like 1% of me that can't rule out a "Switch U" or similar catastrophe
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Post by Vandelay on Aug 1, 2023 15:11:58 GMT
I find it easier to purchase a new console knowing that it is backwards compatible with its predecessor, because I have a huge backlog (that is only getting bigger) and realistically there are only a handful of consoles one can have connected before it becomes a hassle. Also, during the first few months of any console, new and exciting games are usually far and between, so having some older games to play on it (sometimes with an improved experience) makes it worthy. You do you and we're all part of the rich tappesty of life but I find this kind of thinking baffling. The old console doesn't evaporate when a new one comes out. You can still play old games on it. Hell, maybe don't even but the new console if you've got plenty of games on a console you already own you want to play. Also, unless the devs go out of their way to update the game, your playing a game that doesn't take advantage of a platform you've just paid more for. You're all mad! Personally, I would want to sell my Switch when replacing it. Get a little bit of money to go towards the new console and games. Even if I didn't sell it, I would stash it away somewhere. This doesn't stop your last line also being correct though. |
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Post by kal on Aug 1, 2023 18:15:29 GMT
The appeal of continuing access to all your games without having to hoard all your consoles seems fairly obvious to me.
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