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Post by Deleted on Oct 11, 2021 13:49:16 GMT
I've never been to one but has there ever been 3 days worth of stuff at them? Booking a hotel for 3 days to walk around on your own looking at some games for 3 DAYS seems like the actions of a crazy person to me.
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Post by Jambowayoh on Oct 11, 2021 14:25:32 GMT
I know that we're not fans of Rodger Reedpop here, but I look at those pictures and can only feel sad. This would be the worst time ever to be an events company. I feel little sympathy for them offering early bird tickets but letting everyone in at the same time and selling superpasses and announcing the schedule just before the opening. Yes the pandemic is an issue so maybe someone in charge should have taken that into account. |
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Post by Bongo Heracles on Oct 11, 2021 14:35:02 GMT
I've never been to one but has there ever been 3 days worth of stuff at them? Booking a hotel for 3 days to walk around on your own looking at some games for 3 DAYS seems like the actions of a crazy person to me. I suppose it’s a bit like Disneyland (bear with me). We booked DLP for four days over New Years and I reckon it was about 30-40% full so we had done everything twice by lunchtime on day three. A cut down show is one thing but cut down numbers just let everyone burn through the content really quickly. Even at its peak you could see everything in a day if the crowds were similarly thin. Previously you were waiting like an hour to play even mediocre games. |
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Post by elstoof on Oct 11, 2021 14:37:10 GMT
On day three I guess you’re just pretending there’s a queue for an hour if only for something to do
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Post by 😎 on Oct 11, 2021 14:54:27 GMT
There also used to be a stronger sense of community around the whole thing, that you’d go to hang out with people as much as going to the event itself.
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Post by Chopsen on Oct 11, 2021 14:55:40 GMT
Previously you were waiting like an hour to play even mediocre games. ...which is something I never understood either. I've never been that fucked about getting my hands on early versions of games, and by the time a game is out I've generally got a good idea of if I'm going to like it or not. To put it bluntly, I would rather lose 30-50 quid occasionally when I get it wrong on a game that it turns out I didn't like that much, than spend over an hour to get an opportunity to play 5 minutes of it stood up in a noisy hall full of sweaty nerds. |
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Post by Jambowayoh on Oct 11, 2021 14:56:59 GMT
But the smell makes it more immersive.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 11, 2021 15:07:51 GMT
I mean who hasn't walked into Game on a Saturday afternoon and thought to themselves "I really would like to spend 3 days among these people" but I just wasn't sure if there was normally enough content.
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Post by Psiloc on Oct 11, 2021 15:19:21 GMT
I know a ton of gamers IRL and none of them smell. What is it about EGX, CEX and what have you? Fucking hell it's so bad. Is it just a handful of them have enough odour to stink out an entire conference hall on their own?
And I expect that they're all mystified as to why they can't get laid
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Post by Bongo Heracles on Oct 11, 2021 15:21:06 GMT
There also used to be a stronger sense of community around the whole thing, that you’d go to hang out with people as much as going to the event itself. Judging from the mild rubbernecking I did on various hashtags, 90% of the people who went seemed to be minor twitch streamers either meeting up or ‘come and say hi’ wandering about. |
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Post by Jambowayoh on Oct 11, 2021 15:21:34 GMT
I often find it's more to do with not washing their clothes regularly as opposed to not bathing properly.
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Post by Jambowayoh on Oct 11, 2021 15:22:08 GMT
There also used to be a stronger sense of community around the whole thing, that you’d go to hang out with people as much as going to the event itself. Judging from the mild rubbernecking I did on various hashtags, 90% of the people who went seemed to be minor twitch streamers either meeting up or ‘come and say hi’ wandering about. So MrTom then? |
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Post by 😎 on Oct 11, 2021 15:24:47 GMT
There also used to be a stronger sense of community around the whole thing, that you’d go to hang out with people as much as going to the event itself. Judging from the mild rubbernecking I did on various hashtags, 90% of the people who went seemed to be minor twitch streamers either meeting up or ‘come and say hi’ wandering about. Yeah, based on twitter ratios or whatever the correct term is for it, the people who enjoyed it (or put on a brave face about it) fell into "IT'S YA BOI LIKE FOLLOW AND SUBSCRIBE" categories. |
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Post by mothercruncher on Oct 11, 2021 15:26:52 GMT
I’m a videogamer, if I went I’d budget 50 or so minutes a day for looking at games and the rest for standing uncomfortably close to women.
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Post by Dougs on Oct 12, 2021 7:09:34 GMT
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Post by snackplissken on Oct 12, 2021 8:24:21 GMT
I must admit I rarely read about games since the EG forum disappeared. It was kind of a I'll have a look on the front page, then check the forum. So any sort of gaming event I have zero interest in going to anymore.
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Post by qwerty9999 on Oct 12, 2021 13:17:00 GMT
My God, those pictures of the expo are really something What do you think caused such a mess? Eurogamer / EGX used to be pretty good... At least up until a few years ago. I know that Eurogamer closed down their forums, but there was a time when they were really focused on building a gaming community. They even talked about building a social network for gamers. I wonder what made them do a 180 turn, to the extent that they closed their forum? What does the original owner think about how the Eurogamer brand is being handled now? I know that someone earlier in the thread said that the original owner can't be feeling too bad - especially after all the money that they received. But I can't quite help but think that a business is very much like a baby, where the founder works on building a legacy. You give birth to a business, nurture it, watch it grow, see it succeed. I don't think any parent wants to see their child struggle, wither, and die. Even if they did give it up for adoption. That's kind of what I see happening with Eurogamer at the moment... I'm watching it wither and die in real time. Do you think Rupert Loman will ever come back (like Steve Jobs)? |
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Post by Psiloc on Oct 12, 2021 13:49:12 GMT
Oh yeah, "Eurogamers".  |
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Post by probablymuttler on Oct 12, 2021 14:00:51 GMT
The uncomfortable truth is that the staff and those in EG towers never really gave a shit about the community, at least not enough of them did, and vice versa, the community never really gave a shit about them. Otherwise they wouldn't have acted like such entitled jerks when Loman himself came on the forum and asked us to turn off adblockers.
To be fair, should they really have to work for free? I know the website was the worst on the web for adverts but I used to go on EG on my shitty work PCs, and it ran fine. Even when someone suggested subscriptions, a lot of people were like "I ain't paying for shit, I'll just go to NeoGaf or wherever".
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Post by jono62 on Oct 12, 2021 14:04:54 GMT
Or you could just faint and get to the front. |
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Post by robthehermit on Oct 12, 2021 14:27:40 GMT
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Post by qwerty9999 on Oct 12, 2021 14:47:37 GMT
Oh yeah, "Eurogamers". What happened to it? Did they close Eurogamers down or something? Anyone know as to why the strategy wasn't pursued? Would have been interesting to see as to whether Eurogamers could have morphed into a Facebook-lite. |
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Post by qwerty9999 on Oct 12, 2021 14:51:20 GMT
The uncomfortable truth is that the staff and those in EG towers never really gave a shit about the community, at least not enough of them did, and vice versa, the community never really gave a shit about them. Otherwise they wouldn't have acted like such entitled jerks when Loman himself came on the forum and asked us to turn off adblockers. To be fair, should they really have to work for free? I know the website was the worst on the web for adverts but I used to go on EG on my shitty work PCs, and it ran fine. Even when someone suggested subscriptions, a lot of people were like "I ain't paying for shit, I'll just go to NeoGaf or wherever". I don't have an adblocker... At the same time, sure we could find out what the author said via Neogaf... but that would also take away a lot of the thrill of actually reading the author. Tis a bit like reading reviews of a movie... As opposed to going to see a movie and experiencing it first-hand. Or reading about Stephen King... Versus actually reading Stephen King. |
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Post by probablymuttler on Oct 12, 2021 15:23:17 GMT
.... What?
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Post by qwerty9999 on Oct 12, 2021 15:38:56 GMT
I just think too many people have an entitled mentality. Like the Joker said in The Dark Knight, if something is good, it should be paid for. It's this wholesale freeloading mentality that has killed off the music industry. Sure, we had piracy even back then... But when enough people started to not pay for music, the result killed off a lot of bands. I was reading a Q&A with Jason Schrier... He said that journalism isn't a high paying profession anymore. And that's because people use ad-blockers. I want my favorite journalists to be well paid. And I also want there to be enough money for people to want to consider journalism as a full time profession. Good journalists aren't coming up because there's no money. And that's because people are selfish and want to use ad-blockers. It's not as if the journalism is costing people anything anyway. So why not just keep ad-blockers off? |
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Post by Reviewer on Oct 12, 2021 15:44:01 GMT
Because websites have decided that obnoxious ads that are plastered everywhere is the best way to get more money in. Every website is like Times Square for ads but without the fun and the added bonus of all the cookies and tracking.
I’ve no objection to paying for content but it has to be high quality and interesting enough to pay for. Unfortunately a gaming website isn’t that important to me. If the choice was pay for it, watch loads of ads or not use it then I wouldn’t use it.
And a lack of good journalists is not just a lack of money but because websites income is driven by ads, hence the clickbait articles and republishing of press releases.
Finally, the music industry hasn’t been killed off.
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Post by qwerty9999 on Oct 12, 2021 15:53:29 GMT
Because websites have decided that obnoxious ads that are plastered everywhere is the best way to get more money in. Every website is like Times Square for ads but without the fun and the added bonus of all the cookies and tracking. I’ve no objection to paying for content but it has to be high quality and interesting enough to pay for. Unfortunately a gaming website isn’t that important to me. If the choice was pay for it, watch loads of ads or not use it then I wouldn’t use it. And a lack of good journalists is not just a lack of money but because websites income is driven by ads, hence the clickbait articles and republishing of press releases. Finally, the music industry hasn’t been killed off. Well... If a gaming website isn't that important to you, then why are you posting in this thread? Someone said that the staff at Eurogamer didn't care about their community. I'd argue that if I have to contend with people who aren't prepared to pay me for my services and infrastructure, then I shouldn't have to care about them. No wonder Eurogamer closed down their forum. |
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Post by robthehermit on Oct 12, 2021 15:53:49 GMT
And also, lets not pretend that EG was some little indy that could with "journalists" huddled round a candle flame for warmth. They generated millions in turnover and profits regardless of who was blocking what. If the people felt they weren't being paid their worth it's got nothing to do with ad revenue or lack thereof and everything to do with the person who decides who gets paid what.
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Post by Lukus on Oct 12, 2021 16:10:49 GMT
And also, lets not pretend that EG was some little indy that could with "journalists" huddled round a candle flame for warmth. They generated millions in turnover and profits regardless of who was blocking what. If the people felt they weren't being paid their worth it's got nothing to do with ad revenue or lack thereof and everything to do with the person who decides who gets paid what. Dunno about any of that. What financial projections have you been reading? |
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Post by robthehermit on Oct 12, 2021 16:12:45 GMT
And also, lets not pretend that EG was some little indy that could with "journalists" huddled round a candle flame for warmth. They generated millions in turnover and profits regardless of who was blocking what. If the people felt they weren't being paid their worth it's got nothing to do with ad revenue or lack thereof and everything to do with the person who decides who gets paid what. Dunno about any of that. What financial projections have you been reading? Companies House, no projections, just signed and filed accounts. |
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