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Post by Chopsen on Jan 6, 2024 16:23:36 GMT
Three playthroughs, Jeremy? That's Insane!
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Post by Aunt Alison on Jan 6, 2024 17:09:06 GMT
The menus are dire on console. Even worse the Witcher 3. The radial menu you use RB/lb to tab between and then the analogue stick to choose the spell/action you want to take. The wheel is not too bad but the inventory page and other bits are painful. I had zero issues on Xbox but they recommend linking your account their account and then in the options click cross save so it also backs up your saves to their servers as there have been reported issues on Xbox of lost saves. As issues go, that's a pretty big one. Hopefully Jambowayoh is aware of it |
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Post by zephro on Jan 6, 2024 18:01:37 GMT
Three playthroughs, Jeremy? That's Insane! I'm kinda tempted to try get 100% achievements on it at this point... EDIT: Nevermind there's a new one for the insane Honour mode / Ironman thing. Fuck that. |
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Post by alastair on Jan 6, 2024 19:13:05 GMT
Three playthroughs, Jeremy? That's Insane! I'm kinda tempted to try get 100% achievements on it at this point... EDIT: Nevermind there's a new one for the insane Honour mode / Ironman thing. Fuck that. That won't affect getting the platinum though..? |
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Post by zephro on Jan 6, 2024 19:24:35 GMT
I'm kinda tempted to try get 100% achievements on it at this point... EDIT: Nevermind there's a new one for the insane Honour mode / Ironman thing. Fuck that. That won't affect getting the platinum though..? What's a platinum? |
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Post by bichii2 on Jan 6, 2024 19:53:46 GMT
Okay I'm an evil female dwarf barbarian. That took forever to create. Couldn't decide on race for ages then took ages deciding what class!
I'm in now though and on the ship!
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Post by alastair on Jan 6, 2024 22:00:31 GMT
Remember to rage at the start of combat - it makes you take half damage from physical attacks.
At least, it should!
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Post by bichii2 on Jan 7, 2024 2:08:05 GMT
Okay killed all the refugees, all the druids, slept with the evil drow paladin. Found a whole swamp area I never saw first time through. All I have left in act one is to chat to the dudes next to the bridge before the mountain pass entrance. (Well there's a few other things like the spider cave I did on my first play through but they were of little importance/good loot.
I never saw the mountain pass last time and I assume that's the start of act 2. Lvl 5 I think.
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Post by skalpadda on Jan 7, 2024 5:26:46 GMT
bichii2 You've been to the Underdark, right? Just thought I'd mention it since you didn't, and it's a big chunk of act 1 that's possible to miss if you don't poke around or take particular quests. There's a bunch of quests and XP to be had down there, and some great items that can be useful all the way to the end of the game. The Mountain Pass is still technically Act 1.
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Post by bichii2 on Jan 7, 2024 9:01:30 GMT
Yeah I did under dark first play through but missed mountain pass. I'll do both this time then.  . |
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Post by muddyfunster on Jan 7, 2024 9:18:18 GMT
What's the menuing like on console/pad? Is it nice and snappy on the dpad or are you moving a cursor around with the analogue stick for everything? Any issues with Series X? I posted some thoughts on pad a page or two back. It's just you really do have to customise your radial menus manually as they get very messy if you allow the game to do it. Responsiveness is fine on PC via moonlight streaming to shield TV with Xbox pad, so should be even better on console. I use dpad more than analogue in menus. |
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Post by RobEG on Jan 7, 2024 10:05:45 GMT
Okay killed all the refugees, all the druids, slept with the evil drow paladin. Found a whole swamp area I never saw first time through. All I have left in act one is to chat to the dudes next to the bridge before the mountain pass entrance. (Well there's a few other things like the spider cave I did on my first play through but they were of little importance/good loot. I never saw the mountain pass last time and I assume that's the start of act 2. Lvl 5 I think. Damn, you get through a lot in one evening! Far more efficient than I am. Who is the evil drow paladin btw? Don’t remember that. I’m in house of hope. Not really sure what I’m doing here tbh. I wasn’t planning to free the gith prince, but having said that the emperor is starting to piss me off a bit so I might change my mind. I’m already fully levelled but I really just wanted to see everything. I’m not sure I have another playthrough in me, at least not for a while. |
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Post by bichii2 on Jan 7, 2024 10:24:38 GMT
I HATED the emperor. Wanted him dead asap. The drow paladin was one of the three goblin camp leaders. She joins your party if you go down that evil route.
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Post by alastair on Jan 7, 2024 10:25:46 GMT
I HATED the emperor. Wanted him dead asap. The drow paladin was one of the three goblin camp leaders. She joins your party if you go down that evil route. Minthara? |
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Post by alastair on Jan 7, 2024 10:26:22 GMT
I'm into the final stage I think. In the upper city...
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Post by Jambowayoh on Jan 7, 2024 10:28:38 GMT
I HATED the emperor. Wanted him dead asap. The drow paladin was one of the three goblin camp leaders. She joins your party if you go down that evil route. Minthara? That's the badger. |
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Post by bichii2 on Jan 7, 2024 11:50:03 GMT
Ooooooh I've just seen you can get the helldusk armour in act 1 with a little trick and it's turns out I'm basically at the point in the game where you do the trick. |
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Post by rhaegyr on Jan 8, 2024 8:40:49 GMT
Had a 12-hour session on this with two friends over the Christmas break and it was glorious. We're still in Act 1 and haven't even found Halsin yet - every time you try to start a quest/thread you end up pulling on about twenty different threads and completely forget what you set out to do in the first place! I think we set off to find Halsin and ended up fighting a giant spider down a well, had a run-in with Auntie Ethel, found (and set off) the Goblin Camp after a sleep potion didn't work on my half-elf, got a visit by the Devil (nearly sold our souls - it seemed fun), fell into the Underdark, discovered the Myconids (and stopped an uprising), recruited Karlach, rescued a gnome tied to a windmill, found something that looks like the Necronomicon and most likely a ton of other stuff I can't remember. Didn't get anywhere near Halsin but had an absolute blast all the same. Fantastic stuff. Another 6 hour session yesterday and tangentially still looking for Halsin and the Nightsong. In the Underdark when we run into some big burrowing thing, nearly take it out before it pissed off. Then we run into some big hook horror things which we promptly dispatched. Ended up crossing a lake and avoiding a fight by having someone's boots. This area also seems massive with loads of lava, lava monsters and moving platforms. Everyone seems to want to fight us and demands money, we're just about talking/bribing them out of it. Still nowhere near Halsin or the Nightsong but it doesn't matter - we're just going where the rabbit hole takes us. Oh, and there's some juicy stuff for your character (I'm a Tempest Cleric) when you turn Level 5 too! Great game. |
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Post by muddyfunster on Jan 8, 2024 9:09:56 GMT
Just entered Act 3 with 117hrs on the clock and at level 10. I'm not sure if the game counts paused/idle time but if it does there's probably 5-10hrs of that in there.
Without spoilers: the end of Act 2 was very well done, and didn't go entirely as I predicted either.
Had a quick nose around Rivington and first impression: it's all gone a bit Byker Grove. Probably stands out as I can't recall ever hearing a North East English accent in a videogame.
Nice to be out of Bloodborne world and see some sun.
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Post by Vandelay on Jan 8, 2024 11:22:00 GMT
Going back a bit, but I was pretty much bang on the How Long To Beat time for the Mains + Sides time of 95 hours. I may have just hit 100. I find their times normally pretty accurate to my time and no exception for this game.
Fights in the back half of the game definitely did start getting very long, although I don't think I had any that hit the hour. When you start getting a dozen+ enemies, maybe a few NPC allies chucked in, the fights can end up feeling like you are spending more time watching things play out rather than having active involvement, but I only found that an issue towards the end of the game and only on a handful of occasions. Besides those minor complaints, I loved the combat, even though I spent a lot of them flailing about without knowing what I was doing (on normal difficulty and would say I died during fights a single figure number of times).
I say that as also being someone who never liked or could manage the fights in Dragon Age Origins, which some have used as a comparison. Origins was realtime with pause though, like the classic BG games, which is a system I always struggled with (I was really enjoying Pillars of Eternity, but that system ended up putting me off, same with my attempts at playing the original BG games). The Original Sin games are a better touchstone, although I would say Larian have executed those better here.
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Post by docrob on Jan 8, 2024 13:09:23 GMT
I could absolutely see myself hating the combat as well, in particular those absurd hour long battles. There are no fights that take anywhere near an hour unless you're doing something very odd. I find this interesting. I’ve had several that took at least an hour. Usually the ones that had oodles of enemies, but my end fight in the Wyrmway (CBA with spoiler tags, you know the one I mean) took about that long as well. Probably because it was a terrible war of attrition. (I have never tried Perilous Stakes as it feels like cheating). Edit: should mention I’ve been playing on Tactician from the start. Which may or may not make a difference to this. |
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Post by bichii2 on Jan 8, 2024 14:11:54 GMT
Had a 12-hour session on this with two friends over the Christmas break and it was glorious. We're still in Act 1 and haven't even found Halsin yet - every time you try to start a quest/thread you end up pulling on about twenty different threads and completely forget what you set out to do in the first place! I think we set off to find Halsin and ended up fighting a giant spider down a well, had a run-in with Auntie Ethel, found (and set off) the Goblin Camp after a sleep potion didn't work on my half-elf, got a visit by the Devil (nearly sold our souls - it seemed fun), fell into the Underdark, discovered the Myconids (and stopped an uprising), recruited Karlach, rescued a gnome tied to a windmill, found something that looks like the Necronomicon and most likely a ton of other stuff I can't remember. Didn't get anywhere near Halsin but had an absolute blast all the same. Fantastic stuff. Another 6 hour session yesterday and tangentially still looking for Halsin and the Nightsong. In the Underdark when we run into some big burrowing thing, nearly take it out before it pissed off. Then we run into some big hook horror things which we promptly dispatched. Ended up crossing a lake and avoiding a fight by having someone's boots. This area also seems massive with loads of lava, lava monsters and moving platforms. Everyone seems to want to fight us and demands money, we're just about talking/bribing them out of it. Still nowhere near Halsin or the Nightsong but it doesn't matter - we're just going where the rabbit hole takes us. Oh, and there's some juicy stuff for your character (I'm a Tempest Cleric) when you turn Level 5 too! Great game. You've missed halsin. I won't way more unless you want to know. I'm now at moonlight towers, well I've been there at now at the shar trial. Great game but I've been pushing what difference I can make and at the major parts it seems you have much less choice that it seems. You can have a greater affect on the little events that you come across. |
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Post by rhaegyr on Jan 8, 2024 14:17:08 GMT
Another 6 hour session yesterday and tangentially still looking for Halsin and the Nightsong. In the Underdark when we run into some big burrowing thing, nearly take it out before it pissed off. Then we run into some big hook horror things which we promptly dispatched. Ended up crossing a lake and avoiding a fight by having someone's boots. This area also seems massive with loads of lava, lava monsters and moving platforms. Everyone seems to want to fight us and demands money, we're just about talking/bribing them out of it. Still nowhere near Halsin or the Nightsong but it doesn't matter - we're just going where the rabbit hole takes us. Oh, and there's some juicy stuff for your character (I'm a Tempest Cleric) when you turn Level 5 too! Great game. You've missed halsin. I won't way more unless you want to know. I'm now at moonlight towers, well I've been there at now at the shar trial. Great game but I've been pushing what difference I can make and at the major parts it seems you have much less choice that it seems. You can have a greater affect on the little events that you come across. Do you mean I've walked past his location or I'm locked out of finding him now? Don't matter if it's the former as there's a ton of places we haven't scouted yet (underground and overground) that we can always go back to (I assume) - if it's the latter I wouldn't mind knowing how we fucked up! |
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Post by bichii2 on Jan 8, 2024 14:23:16 GMT
How's in the goblin camp jail. Depending on what you've done mission wise he "should" still be there but he might now he dead. You can still travel back to the starting areas, soon you won't be able to.
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Post by rhaegyr on Jan 8, 2024 14:33:02 GMT
How's in the goblin camp jail. Depending on what you've done mission wise he "should" still be there but he might now he dead. You can still travel back to the starting areas, soon you won't be able to. Really? There's an absolute ton we haven't done. No warning before triggering Act 2? Hell, we still haven't sorted the refugee issue out back at the starting area! |
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Post by Garfy on Jan 8, 2024 14:40:23 GMT
You don't get locked out of act 1 until quite a ways into act 2, but I don't know if other things might advance on their own.
Act 2 is very distinctive and you won't miss it.
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Post by bichii2 on Jan 8, 2024 14:46:13 GMT
I'm pretty sure you miss the chance to do certain things like the refugee thing if you leave the area. Not everything just certain time critical things.
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Post by skalpadda on Jan 8, 2024 15:00:15 GMT
There are no fights that take anywhere near an hour unless you're doing something very odd. I find this interesting. I’ve had several that took at least an hour. Usually the ones that had oodles of enemies, but my end fight in the Wyrmway (CBA with spoiler tags, you know the one I mean) took about that long as well. Probably because it was a terrible war of attrition. (I have never tried Perilous Stakes as it feels like cheating). Edit: should mention I’ve been playing on Tactician from the start. Which may or may not make a difference to this. I didn't say fights can't possibly take that long. In the context I was responding to - where people were complaining about the fights being too long - I'd count playing on the hardest difficulty with a party that deals very low damage as "doing something very odd". If you're having fun there's absolutely nothing wrong with doing that, but it's something the player chooses to do, not something the game forces on you. I'm guessing the boss you mean is Ansur? Going to YouTube and searching for tactician kills I can't find any videos longer than 30 minutes, and in that one the fight itself takes 22 minutes. The ones that are less than 2 minutes can probably be discounted as people using broken builds, but 5-20 mins seems like a reasonable span for someone not min-maxing. If you're fighting 20 enemies the first round may take 5 minutes, but you should be able to kill things every turn, so subsequent turns will be faster and faster and it's hard to see how it could add up to an hour unless you're dealing very little damage (which is fixable if you think it's a problem).
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Post by skalpadda on Jan 8, 2024 15:02:59 GMT
How's in the goblin camp jail. Depending on what you've done mission wise he "should" still be there but he might now he dead. You can still travel back to the starting areas, soon you won't be able to. Really? There's an absolute ton we haven't done. No warning before triggering Act 2? Hell, we still haven't sorted the refugee issue out back at the starting area! The Underdark is Act 1 and there's a warning before moving to Act 2, so you're fine. Enjoy your exploring. |
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Post by knighty on Jan 8, 2024 16:04:49 GMT
I’ve just started and getting absolutely murdered a lot of the time. Did just kill an owlbear though. Loving it so far! Could easily see fights lasting ages in the future (mainly because it appears I am terrible at it).
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