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Post by Chopsen on Dec 15, 2023 16:33:58 GMT
Yeah, that's something I do a lot of too. The spinning blades spell is *very* effective for that.
The spell to magicall lock doors is very useful in avoiding being overwhelmed, which I only found quite late on.
Something I did a fair bit of, which I'm not too proud to admit, is sneak up and pick of a few and then run away to camp like a little bitch. Enemies who are just damaged will heal but those who are killed stayed dead.
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Post by bichii2 on Dec 15, 2023 17:04:36 GMT
Yep I put spinning blades in the choke point the moonbeam straight after for anything that makes it through the blades. I'm early in the game and I just let my kinda of girlfriend kill another team member at camp. I was fed up with a constant arguing so I just let it happen.
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Post by alastair on Dec 15, 2023 17:14:56 GMT
Shadowheart and Laezel at a guess.
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Post by richyroo on Dec 16, 2023 1:47:09 GMT
Finished this tonight after about 140 hours. Fucking fantastic.
I'm gonna leave it a year before a second playthrough though. Just got too many games building up in that backlog.
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Post by RobEG on Dec 16, 2023 10:53:16 GMT
I’m struggling to get into act 3 as much right now. Bit too much going on, so many quest markers. Plus I need to get upstairs in the toy store and into the vault at the sorcerer’s place . Trying to do so without killing everyone and it’s a faff. I did the latter alone with out my party but haven’t managed to get what I need yet so need to go back. Maybe I should just kill everyone. They are all annoying anyway.
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Post by harrypalmer on Dec 16, 2023 12:54:36 GMT
Yeah I found act 3 a tough adjustment. It suddenly switches to a more traditional rpg style with a ton of stuff going on at once. Story loses some impetus as a result, which is a shame.
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Post by richyroo on Dec 16, 2023 13:54:30 GMT
I quite enjoyed the chance of pace. Act 3 kept the game fresh for me.
Question for you all. When I eventually do a 2nd run, I wanna play evil. My first run I played as paladin and kept to my oath which was pretty easy.
Is it best to do a dark urge playthrough, or just play as a normal character but choose evil options. I am worried that dark urge will lock me out of options I might of otherwise wanted to pick
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Post by bichii2 on Dec 16, 2023 14:19:33 GMT
Things like first person shooters I tend to play on hard. Currently in the under dark, decided to put it on easy. Oh the game is so much more fun on easy. I still have to do the right things and I nearly lost a battle just now as some hook monster thing did a certain attack that made 3 of the 4 party members take a lot of fall damage.
I've not the patience to play through very lengthy battles and then have to start all over again due to me making an mistake or maybe I just got some unlucky dice rolls. I can beat xcom on hard so I'm happy playing strategy with some tough challenges but this seems a bit over kill on the difficulty/length of battles. It's a game full of combat as well. Sure you can talk your way through some stuff but it's very combat focused.
Tldr easy mode makes the game very fun.
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Post by muddyfunster on Dec 16, 2023 15:43:12 GMT
That's good to hear. Think I'm like you in that I don't have much patience for repeating lengthy battles.
The combat is fine so far but I'm not really finding it hugely enjoyable either. It's often a bit of a relief when a battle is over rather than a sense of satisfaction. Medium has been fine for me up to this point, and presented the right level of challenge.
As I mentioned above one of the major reasons I abandoned D:OS2 was the time consuming and too hard battles. Problem there was easy mode was far too easy and rendered most of the RPG rewards (equipment and loot) pointless. Just not fun or satisfying.
Still think my favourite rpg combat system was the original Dragon Age. I just loved the hybrid of toggle able turn based with also being able to setup automations for the companions (if x then y) to speed things along. Was really satisfying to evolve my party into an efficient killing machine that I could mostly leave to run itself outside of 'boss' battles.
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Post by RobEG on Dec 16, 2023 16:20:06 GMT
Yeah I found act 3 a tough adjustment. It suddenly switches to a more traditional rpg style with a ton of stuff going on at once. Story loses some impetus as a result, which is a shame. Yeah glad it’s not just me. It’s not terrible, but I lost a bit of rhythm. I got into the fireworks place (not toys - but related to the quest) the explosive way. Literally. Threw a fireball in there Also got what I needed from the vault at the sorcery shop . That was far less explosive. I think I’ve now cleared the first part. Except for the sewers/bhaal temple which I assume is where I go to rescue lae’zel .
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Post by Mark1412 on Dec 16, 2023 17:14:56 GMT
I'm right at the end now and, where act 2 got really good, I feel like act 3's been consistently good but only rarely reached the heights of act 1 and 2. Partly that's because combat is meaningless now as I've been level 12 for ageeeeeeeees and have my strategies down and character 'finished' so that push has disappeared. Also the relationships between characters don't seem as front and centre, which I guess is because it's end of days time so all the quiet little moments are less of a focus. The friendly characters introduced in act 3 haven't captured me at all.
Also it's pretty buggy.
Still incredible, but I am looking forward to wrapping up tonight.
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Post by bichii2 on Dec 16, 2023 17:28:56 GMT
Everything takes forever. I've been in this under dark for ever! And apparently the bridge is gone so I have to now go over ground to complete shadows quest. Who knows, it's all so vague.
And fucking hell nearly every time I jump one of the party members fails to follow.
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Post by harrypalmer on Dec 16, 2023 17:38:13 GMT
Yeah that is annoying
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Post by RobEG on Dec 16, 2023 17:44:06 GMT
Yeah agreed that’s really annoying.
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Post by bichii2 on Dec 16, 2023 18:11:24 GMT
I have a strict no clothes policy at base camp. Adds to the bonding experience and party vibes. Just leave the over armour on and the game auto dresses everyone when you go back to the game.
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Post by muddyfunster on Dec 16, 2023 18:27:39 GMT
Does Withers join in with that vibe?
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Post by bichii2 on Dec 16, 2023 19:08:43 GMT
He stays fully clothed. He is the voyeur of the group.
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Post by bichii2 on Dec 16, 2023 22:39:51 GMT
I've no idea how this can be beaten on normal. It seems like every battle has at least 2 to 1 enemies and most of the time they have magically got the ability to hit me twice per turn when generally I only get one attack.
Currently in the tower, just met the immortal general.
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Post by RobEG on Dec 16, 2023 23:14:58 GMT
Some classes of upgraded correctly can have two or three attacks (possibly more?). I’m playing on normal and can generally deal with being outnumbered. The trick I’ve found is to use spells to damage multiple opponents and obviously use choke points to your advantage.
So you are at the end of act 2 already? Didn’t you just start the other day? What level is your party?
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Post by Aunt Alison on Dec 16, 2023 23:18:21 GMT
Sounds like you're not enjoying the gameplay so haven't got the time or patience for it. Sounds like you fucking hate the game, to be honest
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Post by MolarAm🔵 on Dec 16, 2023 23:19:13 GMT
My guess is that she mainlined the story to the extent that her party is severely underlevelled. If even your fighters don't have their extra attack, you wouldn't even be level 5, and if that's the case I'm frankly impressed that you've even made it to act 2.
Anyway... it's an RPG. You're supposed to do side quests and level up and change your equipment and such.
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Post by RobEG on Dec 16, 2023 23:32:51 GMT
I’ve only really struggled on a few occasions in combat.Most general combat I don’t have too many issues with. I’m on normal and am new to BG/D&D. I think I was level 9 finishing act 2.
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Post by MolarAm🔵 on Dec 16, 2023 23:35:45 GMT
Yeah, I'm on Tactician in the middle of Act 3. And so far, not a single party member has died outside of Asterion getting shoved off a cliff one time.
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Post by bichii2 on Dec 16, 2023 23:53:21 GMT
I think I'm level 5. Looking at the quest log etc it doesn't look like I missed loads but I guess I could have.
There's a severe lack of armour and weapon upgrades. Sure my team do have some slightly better items now but it isn't a big step up from the starting gear.
I do try and resolve things nicely but like with the cave in to rescue the slave gnomes and the true soul guy no matter how I reloaded it I had to get involved in this fucking huge and very hard fight.
Then the path to the temple was broken so I went up the lift then no matter where you go you get attacked so I decided to just head to the tower as it was the only quest marker on that map.
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Post by Mark1412 on Dec 17, 2023 0:47:57 GMT
I was level 9 by the end of act 2 so if that is where you are, good effort but no doubt you're finding it a challenge. Sounds like you're are massively under leveled.
Also, worth spending some time googling class builds. Lae'zel can have seven attacks round 1. Couple that with a hold monster or dance spell and enjoy the results.
Turns out I wasn't nearly as done as I thought. Hadn't even been to house of hope. That WAS fun.
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Post by RobEG on Dec 17, 2023 8:20:15 GMT
Yeah, you are way under levelled. Did you explore the full maps? You get XP for finding new areas, but just by wandering around you find interesting stuff to do to naturally level up.
Sounds like you’ve rushed through it, maybe because you are not really enjoying it.
I’ve not really found there to be a lack of armour and weapons either. The only things I’ve struggled a bit to find are decen ranged options and cloaks.
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Post by harrypalmer on Dec 17, 2023 8:31:16 GMT
Play it how you want but you’ll miss a ton of cool stuff and be masssively under levelled!
I suspect you’d still get to lvl 12 before the end but it’ll be much tougher and probably really annoying!
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Post by MolarAm🔵 on Dec 17, 2023 8:47:01 GMT
It's not just about the levels. Like half the fun of an RPG is in the side content, and in this one a lot of early game questing pays off in later acts.
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Post by bichii2 on Dec 17, 2023 10:43:35 GMT
I haven't intentionally rushed things. Most side quests I came across I did. But yeah I didn't fully explore in opposite directions as early on everything seemed to kill my weak characters and it's off putting when it took ages to only die. Can I go back? Maybe I'll leave this tower and fully explore this map. I've found most side stuff has been near the main objective markers.
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Post by RobEG on Dec 17, 2023 20:14:50 GMT
There is so much side stuff to do. Sometimes I’m not sure what is side stuff anyway as it all seems to link into the main story in some way. Like I just went into the vault . No particular reason than I happened to be there and successfully persuaded the guy to let me in. Some interesting and story relevant shit happened down there that would have been so easy to miss. I’m quite liking the Orin/Bhaal stuff in act 3. Giving things a nice creepy edge.
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