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Post by skalpadda on Aug 19, 2023 14:27:57 GMT
I think my current play through is fucked, act 2 or thereabouts. Got to the boss battle with Oliver to lift the curse, and though I can breeze through that pretty easily, as soon as it’s done everyone basically dies from the shadow curse of the area. Can’t fast travel, can’t rest, and the only safe area has someone in the way that triggers a cutscene where most of my party becomes undead.
It seems I should be able to counter the worst of the shadow curse with a moon lantern, but googling how to fix one reveals that the quest to get a repaired one, I can’t start that quest because the Last Light Inn got massacred by that winged dude and literally everyone is dead. Huh, that's so different from what happened to me. I assume it's the bit with Halsin's quest where you get teleported to another place? Everyone at the inn is fine in my game except from one person being kidnapped in the cutscene where that fight started. Priest is still there and her blessing active, and I immediately got a quest that led me to get an intact moon lantern to protect from the deep cursed areas as well. There must be some alternative way of getting protection no matter what happens at the inn, because otherwise there are lots of places where you can never go.
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Post by skalpadda on Aug 19, 2023 16:13:30 GMT
😎 Oh it seems you can get another moon lantern from Z'rell if you accept (or "accept") her quest, so if you can get to Moonrise Towers that might be an option to unfuck yourself.
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Post by Reviewer on Aug 19, 2023 16:26:00 GMT
I gave up on steam deck, it’s too annoying for the screen size and performance is shite. Got a refund and will get the ps5 one if that plays better.
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Post by neems on Aug 19, 2023 16:31:22 GMT
It should do, PS5 is more powerful than my pc. Mind you I dread to think what my framerate is, I'm running it at 4k on a gtx1080. Nothing seems to have exploded yet.
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Post by MolarAm🔵 on Aug 19, 2023 16:35:48 GMT
Personally I'm very pleased with how well this game runs. I've got a laptop I bought 5 years ago, nowhere near the top of the line in specs, and BG3 runs fantastically. Bit of hitching when the explosions start, but it's not a huge deal.
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Post by ekz on Aug 19, 2023 23:36:42 GMT
Withers just appeared at my camp randomly last night and I have no idea what prompted him. I haven't gone to a crypt or done the explore the ruins quest which the internet says I needed to do.
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Post by MolarAm🔵 on Aug 20, 2023 0:18:07 GMT
He's important enough gameplay-wise that they probably didn't want you to miss out on getting him, even if you didn't do the ruins.
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Post by ekz on Aug 20, 2023 0:38:49 GMT
Oh, oops. I forgot to quote Chopsen's post from the page before.
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Post by Vandelay on Aug 20, 2023 1:17:20 GMT
Played a little on the plane to the US yesterday on my Steam Deck and have played a couple of times on the train during work commutes. Performance is terrible, but I have managed to get used to it. Main issue for me is having the GoG version and having to do the save game shuffle when going between PC and Deck. Patching through the Heroic Launcher seems to take forever as well.
Can't believe how Act 1 just seems to keep going for me. I'm sure I must have played more than 20 hours and there is still plenty of places to explore.
Just ended up having a massive fight at the goblin camp. I cleared the inside area and stepped outside, thinking they may not be hostile. Had some friendly ogres I was able to summon to lend a hand.
Getting ready to party with the druids now.
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Post by MolarAm🔵 on Aug 20, 2023 1:26:49 GMT
Next playthrough I'm taking those tree-huggers down, damnit.
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Post by Vandelay on Aug 20, 2023 4:53:54 GMT
I actually did that back when I played the early access 2-3 years ago. If I remember correctly, I tried to take a key that was in a bird's nest, which counted as stealing (I'm sure the bird stole it first). Perhaps I had stolen something else or I failed some persuasion check, but it all kicked off. Can't remember if I killed everything or managed to run away somehow.
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Post by Frog on Aug 20, 2023 6:12:11 GMT
Next playthrough I'm taking those tree-huggers down, damnit. That was my plan but the consequences would have fucked my playthrough up.
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Post by salaman on Aug 20, 2023 8:58:02 GMT
I'm at level 5 and I think I managed to do most of act 1. The prompt near the mountain pass about it being a difficult area and to come back later is gone. But then I went through and ran into *that* fight, which I'm clearly not ready for.
I'm not sure what to do next. I don't think I've left anything unexplored. Any dark spots on the map seem inaccessible (mountain top, middle of a river).
I guess the only option is to try to go via the underdark?
If there's a difficult fight lying in wait there as well, I'm fucked.
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Post by Chopsen on Aug 20, 2023 9:20:05 GMT
Underdark is when you have to start actually thinking about tactics in your fights imo. You can't just bop people on their head and hope for the best.
It probably doesn't make sense narratively, but if was there I'd do *both* the underdark and the mountain pass. Act 2 gets bloody hard later on and the XP will be handy.
(Deceleration: I am shit at games and don't really understand DnD rules so ymmv)
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Post by Mr Wonderstuff on Aug 20, 2023 9:21:11 GMT
I'm at level 5 and I think I managed to do most of act 1. The prompt near the mountain pass about it being a difficult area and to come back later is gone. But then I went through and ran into *that* fight, which I'm clearly not ready for. I'm not sure what to do next. I don't think I've left anything unexplored. Any dark spots on the map seem inaccessible (mountain top, middle of a river). I guess the only option is to try to go via the underdark? If there's a difficult fight lying in wait there as well, I'm fucked. I think I know the battle you mention. I actually did that the other way round - ie I went Underdark to the New Area, bimbled around there for a bit and then to Mountain Pass from there. Level 5 should be ok for that fight if you have a balanced party and try funneling them through narrow areas - I appeared from behind the mob along a narrow path.
I only recall one main battle in the Underdark and even that was optional (you could go back later before the last part of Act 2 to do that). I'd go to Underdark first then go back along the mountain pass from the Act 2 area.
I messed up the Underdark (well I didn't do something in time) and so probably didn't get to see all the content there. That's one of my gripes with the game - there is no signposting that any missions are time sensitive and stuff happends/doesn't happen you are like "WTF?!" - oh it's because I had too many long rests.
Anyhow, it's a cracking game. I must give praise for the voice acting and animation during cutscenes - really pulls you in and the quantity of them is nuts (did they motion capture all the main cutscenes?).
In terms of how it plays I generally fuck up encounters as I am ill prepared (especially amubushes). I then reload, buff for the appropriate encounter and generally get my way through. For me it can be a bit soulslike in the fact it's trial and error gameplay (which can be frustrating with messages such as "too many hit points", "path is obstructed", "your not meant to shove/push/pull this enemy" etc). D&D is very complex and going into this without some sort of understanding is a path to frustration.
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Post by salaman on Aug 20, 2023 9:27:45 GMT
I had a similar experience in underdark. I triggered a huuuge brawl with tons of NPCs involved, so I decided to leave it until later. The situation had resolved itself later on. Although to be fair, it was somewhat implied that the whole situation was time sensitive. Which reminds me. I do have something left to do in Act I. I still need to try and beat grym
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Post by Frog on Aug 20, 2023 10:02:18 GMT
Make sure you are using buffs, bless is amazing for example.
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Post by zephro on Aug 20, 2023 10:06:48 GMT
Underdark is when you have to start actually thinking about tactics in your fights imo. You can't just bop people on their head and hope for the best. It probably doesn't make sense narratively, but if was there I'd do *both* the underdark and the mountain pass. Act 2 gets bloody hard later on and the XP will be handy. (Deceleration: I am shit at games and don't really understand DnD rules so ymmv) I only did the one and I've basically hit the level cap way before the end of the game. Also if it's just for XP it won't work so well, as the xp gap between levels increases on a weird but not quite exponential curve so going back to wreck up a load of lower level stuff won't touch the sides much.
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Post by skalpadda on Aug 20, 2023 13:24:05 GMT
I was level 6 when I left act 1 and just hit level 10 in the last dungeon section of act 2 last night. I've explored thoroughly and I think I've done every quest that made sense in a "good" playthrough.
I'm a bit annoyed that the druid's Owlbear form is bugged so you can't enrage past level 7. Not a huge deal, but it's so good for AoE and the enrage would make it even better. I can turn into a badass dinosaur now though, which is amazing for single target damage.
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Post by gibroon on Aug 20, 2023 15:54:07 GMT
I pretty much rinsed act 1. Agree that the underdark is where the monsters beef up a bit. Quite a few brutal beasts down there but worth it for some of the rewards. Finding most things fairly easy going into act 2.
A lot of that is my gift of the gab and religious knowledge making some fights a lot easier or not even needed at all.
Still loving it but there a fair few buggy bits during fighting.
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Post by 😎 on Aug 20, 2023 15:57:36 GMT
Managed to work my way out of the situation. Went wandering the shadowlands for a while and stumbled across a spider dude who had a moon lantern. Convinced him to give it to me while he wandered off and died to the shadow curse. Then after finishing off Oliver I stumbled across him again as a shadow curse undead.
I have discovered that a bunch of companions I should have are dead or missed though, so the second play through should be radically different. I might go chaotic evil as a drow.
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Post by Chopsen on Aug 20, 2023 16:27:08 GMT
Spider dude sounds like an idiot.
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Post by myk on Aug 20, 2023 16:50:08 GMT
(minor spoilers for act 1)
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Post by Mr Wonderstuff on Aug 20, 2023 17:02:51 GMT
Last bit was ace. Where did they get all those barrels?
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Post by Frog on Aug 20, 2023 18:26:34 GMT
The goblin camp has a guarded door that's got a lot of barrels.
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Post by Frog on Aug 20, 2023 19:41:29 GMT
Just watched it...not that many barrels!
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Post by salaman on Aug 21, 2023 5:57:07 GMT
The goblin camp has a guarded door that's got a lot of barrels. Yeah, 6 maybe. Not 60. :)
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Post by ekz on Aug 21, 2023 8:18:15 GMT
Not liking the underdark so far. There's a section with similar vibes in skyrim that I hated too.
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Post by Wrongshui on Aug 21, 2023 9:27:28 GMT
Act 3 is somewhat overwhelming, there's a lot going on, and your options are pretty open ended, throw in some bugs and it gets a bit confusing and easy to lose track of what you should be doing.
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Post by Mr Wonderstuff on Aug 21, 2023 10:43:49 GMT
Act 3 is somewhat overwhelming, there's a lot going on, and your options are pretty open ended, throw in some bugs and it gets a bit confusing and easy to lose track of what you should be doing. I think the fact some missions don't actually tell you what to do (a good thing for some/confusing for others). I had to check online for a clue about what to do next in one early Act 3 mission as it just sorta...stopped. No insight as to what I was looking for. It was just assumed I knew what needed to search for. Again, some players will enjoy this - I just find it a bit annoying.
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