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Post by eleven63 on Oct 17, 2023 20:33:07 GMT
Or not...
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Post by Zomoniac on Oct 17, 2023 20:33:39 GMT
Cue misplaced pass to Grealish Got a chuckle out of me. Just as everyone’s praising his passing he has three great options on and manages to play it to the one tiny spot that isn’t any of them. |
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Post by monkman5000 on Oct 17, 2023 20:34:00 GMT
Luckily Kane is also an amazing number 9.
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Post by kal on Oct 17, 2023 20:35:14 GMT
I love the way Henderson always makes a really big show of looking for forward passes before passing backwards.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 17, 2023 20:40:31 GMT
And then does a point to where he wanted them to stand even though they were free.
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Post by Dougs on Oct 17, 2023 20:42:02 GMT
It's a classic posturing move.
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Post by Whizzo on Oct 17, 2023 20:42:02 GMT
Sweet Caroline is fucking shit, it's not what I wanted to hear at all.
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Post by kal on Oct 17, 2023 20:43:46 GMT
Can’t believe we lost to this bunch of farts in the final. At Wembley as well. We really did bottle that one.
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Post by Dougs on Oct 17, 2023 20:45:17 GMT
Yup. The occasion totally got to them.
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Post by mcmonkeyplc on Oct 17, 2023 20:45:21 GMT
I can't wait to to be disappointed again in the summer 😝
Also Italy we're wank after the first 30 mins.
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Post by harrypalmer on Oct 17, 2023 20:49:06 GMT
Can’t believe we lost to this bunch of farts in the final. At Wembley as well. We really did bottle that one. Was just thinking that. It's weird, because everyone totally knew we were going to lose it, but in hindsight we should have beaten them easily. |
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Post by jono62 on Oct 17, 2023 20:55:04 GMT
We scored too early in that final as Southgate wanted to protect the lead. Fine if its 15 odd minutes left.
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Post by Trowel 🏴 on Oct 17, 2023 21:50:41 GMT
How is Bellingham only 20? Not only is he a ridiculously complete footballer, he's got the attitude and confidence of someone who's been at the top for 10 years. Zola summed it up well... 🍼👀 |
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Post by patrick on Oct 18, 2023 5:35:57 GMT
Channel 4 need to bin off Cole and Dion. They're both awful.
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Post by simple on Oct 18, 2023 6:31:35 GMT
Its still really weird that they have the coverage at all
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Post by Snake on Oct 18, 2023 7:59:02 GMT
Well deserved win that. I could find some excuses for what went down but we got outplayed there.
How can you stop those Bellingham moves?
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Post by mikew1985 on Oct 18, 2023 9:47:01 GMT
Can’t believe we lost to this bunch of farts in the final. At Wembley as well. We really did bottle that one. Was just thinking that. It's weird, because everyone totally knew we were going to lose it, but in hindsight we should have beaten them easily. In foresight you should have easily beat them. It was a massive, massive underachievement to lose that final. I still think this England team will win a major comp in the next 2 tournaments. You're actually good now, whereas you used to be shit despite having good players. |
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Post by kal on Oct 18, 2023 9:51:08 GMT
The missing piece now is a manager that knows how to win major trophies and completely believes in this team’s ability to do it.
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Post by mcmonkeyplc on Oct 18, 2023 9:51:41 GMT
Was just thinking that. It's weird, because everyone totally knew we were going to lose it, but in hindsight we should have beaten them easily. In foresight you should have easily beat them. It was a massive, massive underachievement to lose that final. I still think this England team will win a major comp in the next 2 tournaments. You're actually good now, whereas you used to be shit despite having good players. I just had a look at the teams and our current forward line up is miles better, we had Sterling, mount and Kane in 2021. Yesterday we had Foden, Rashford, Kane and crucially Bellingham behind them too. We just had that extra level of quality. |
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Post by Dougs on Oct 18, 2023 9:57:50 GMT
Missing Star Boy too.
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Post by monkman5000 on Oct 18, 2023 10:03:36 GMT
Foden's an interesting one. Clearly a massive talent but I feel like we're still waiting to see his full potential, and we've been waiting a while now.
I'd play Saka ahead of him when fit certainly.
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Post by mcmonkeyplc on Oct 18, 2023 10:05:34 GMT
Foden's an interesting one. Clearly a massive talent but I feel like we're still waiting to see his full potential, and we've been waiting a while now. I'd play Saka ahead of him when fit certainly. I'd play Saka instead of Rashford in his current form, but apparently he can still score for England  |
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Post by monkman5000 on Oct 18, 2023 10:08:04 GMT
Saka plays on the right though. Agree that I'd rather have 2022 Rashford than the current version, but I think I might still have him ahead of Foden as I think he's a bigger goal threat. Foden can play 10 of course but no way is anyone but Bellingham playing there.
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Post by mikew1985 on Oct 18, 2023 10:11:42 GMT
In foresight you should have easily beat them. It was a massive, massive underachievement to lose that final. I still think this England team will win a major comp in the next 2 tournaments. You're actually good now, whereas you used to be shit despite having good players. I just had a look at the teams and our current forward line up is miles better, we had Sterling, mount and Kane in 2021. Yesterday we had Foden, Rashford, Kane and crucially Bellingham behind them too. We just had that extra level of quality. Lol, would ye feck off. You had more than enough in that line up to win. That front three is absolutely light years beyond what most teams have. At international level you're lucky to have 1x player of that quality. Who did Italy have? Chiesa? Is he even really at that level...? Plus Rash and Jude were in the squad. |
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Post by Dougs on Oct 18, 2023 10:15:29 GMT
Foden can surely play in that left 8 role.
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Post by snackplissken on Oct 18, 2023 10:15:40 GMT
Just takes a manager with worse players to tactically know how to out perform Southgate.
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Post by monkman5000 on Oct 18, 2023 10:17:28 GMT
Foden can surely play in that left 8 role. What's the left 8 role?
I'm no FM tactics/formations guru but I see it as a 4-2-3-1 with Kane, Rashford/Foden, Bellingham and Saka as the front 4. Rice and someone better than Phillips as the 2 CMs.
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Post by Dougs on Oct 18, 2023 10:20:37 GMT
It's enabled by the whole inverted full back thing. Drop Phillips, play Rice as the DM (6), Foden plays more centrally but left side (so not far from the LWF) and the midfield is bolstered by a full back stepping into midfield. Or I guess Stones could do the same from CB.
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Post by monkman5000 on Oct 18, 2023 10:22:04 GMT
Yeah that's a bit beyond me and I suspect Gareth too |
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Post by RobEG on Oct 18, 2023 10:24:12 GMT
It's enabled by the whole inverted full back thing. Drop Phillips, play Rice as the DM (6), Foden plays more centrally but left side (so not far from the LWF) and the midfield is bolstered by a full back stepping into midfield. Or I guess Stones could do the same from CB. Absolutely no chance Southgate does this The simple solution is Rice as DM, Bellingham and Maddison as CM. Those two supporting a front 3 of Kane, Saka and Rashford / Foden / Grealish (whoever is in form) would be amazing. |
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