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Post by mikew1985 on Feb 7, 2023 14:54:55 GMT
I'd be mindful of the fact that it doesn't take you being a woman to understand that bigotry against a tiny subset of people just trying to live their life is wrong, nor does being a white male preclude you from recognising and decrying racism when you see it. Yes, well things like refusing to use pronouns and just openly attacking appearances and all that are just clearly people being mean spirited and hateful. Its the same sort of stuff people give out about with regard to any sort of hate speech "why should I have to moderate myself?". I would have no issue with trans men being in any "male" space. I think there is debate to be had around some of the changes that have happened in recent years and the unintended consequences of those (heavy lean on the unintended) and that's where I feel less qualified to speak, not an attempt to abdicate from being able to spot obvious hate and dickheadedness.
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Post by kingbambino on Feb 7, 2023 15:20:45 GMT
Can you create JKR in the game ?
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Post by JonFE on Feb 7, 2023 15:25:11 GMT
I'm guessing there won't be a DF article on it given that they're pretending this game doesn't exist over at EG Towers. They’ve said that they weren’t sent code yet, but either way there’s a day one patch so anything they do is going to be after that. From the horse’s mouth: “ With regards to Hogwarts Legacy, you'll have noticed that reviews went live today - we do not have code yet and it's understood via Warner Bros that there'll be a day one patch on launch day. We'll figure out how we cover it and if we cover it once we've actually seen it.“ Is the horse in question (the bold part ) EG or DF?
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Post by Phattso on Feb 7, 2023 15:25:47 GMT
DF.
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Post by Warrender on Feb 7, 2023 15:37:32 GMT
They sure do like their globes in Hogwarts, don't they?
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Post by Deleted on Feb 7, 2023 16:34:33 GMT
Four hours to copy 24.4Gb from disc to the SSD on PS5 I love modern games.
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Post by dfunked on Feb 7, 2023 16:36:46 GMT
That sounds pretty fucked to me. You're usually looking at half an hour or so for much bigger games to install...
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Post by Deleted on Feb 7, 2023 16:40:38 GMT
Yeah, it’s never been like that before. There’s loads of room on the SSD so no idea what’s happened
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Post by Deleted on Feb 7, 2023 16:41:08 GMT
I'm guessing there won't be a DF article on it given that they're pretending this game doesn't exist over at EG Towers. John Linneman in particular comes off very “fuck you, EG,” in that he almost makes it a point to highlight games the main site gives Avoid reviews to. I’d be surprised if one of them didn’t cover it. Also looks right up Tom’s alley, but I’m not sure where he stands on the art vs artist debate.
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Post by Trowel 🏴 on Feb 7, 2023 18:19:21 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Feb 7, 2023 18:21:15 GMT
Ahh, I meant DF’s Tom Morgan. There are a lot of Toms.
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Post by 😎 on Feb 7, 2023 18:26:07 GMT
It all feels a bit odd, a lot of sites are fence sitting on the side of not pissing off either side (or WB) of the argument by going “lalalala this doesn’t exist.”
To some extent I get it but it also feels, I dunno, kind of cowardly?
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Post by dfunked on Feb 7, 2023 18:29:15 GMT
Yeah, I kind of expected a "this is why we're not covering it," article from EG, or bumping one if they've done it already. Radio silence just seems like a pretty pathetic way of handling it.
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Post by Jambowayoh on Feb 7, 2023 18:29:57 GMT
It all feels a bit odd, a lot of sites are fence sitting on the side of not pissing off either side (or WB) of the argument by going “lalalala this doesn’t exist.” To some extent I get it but it also feels, I dunno, kind of cowardly? It really does. Especially for sites that like to wear their speaking for marginalised voices badges really prominently. If you espouse it then fucking say something.
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Post by 😎 on Feb 7, 2023 18:43:34 GMT
There’s also kiiiind of an irony in that the game has turned out to feature better gender fluidity and diversity representation than most mainstream games. But then there’s the problematic goblins too. It really is such a weird moment. Which is why I get it, at least to some extent, stapling your flag to a particular mast is a lose/lose.
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Post by gibroon on Feb 7, 2023 18:43:42 GMT
I find it absolutley baffling if review sites are giving this game a body swerve because of a transview or whatever. The world has gone insane. Don't have a house, own a TV, own a car or a phone because you are giving money to right-wing, homophobic, racist, communist cunts. Jeez, what a thing to make a stand for.
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Post by Bongo Heracles on Feb 7, 2023 18:46:22 GMT
It all feels a bit odd, a lot of sites are fence sitting on the side of not pissing off either side (or WB) of the argument by going “lalalala this doesn’t exist.” To some extent I get it but it also feels, I dunno, kind of cowardly? Apparently, one of the reasons sites don’t seem to be covering it is they sent out limited review codes, focussing on sites who would ignore the baggage and worked specifically with IGN to give it to one of the few reviewers who was happy to do the same.
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Post by Bongo Heracles on Feb 7, 2023 18:50:09 GMT
I find it absolutley baffling if review sites are giving this game a body swerve because of a transview or whatever. The world has gone insane. Don't have a house, own a TV, own a car or a phone because you are giving money to right-wing, homophobic, racist, communist cunts. Jeez, what a thing to make a stand for. It’s not hard, though, is it? It’s a game. Taking a stand over not reviewing it is literally a case of not redeeming the code. Ethical consumption is, obviously, virtually impossible but this one is as easy as it gets.
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Post by 😎 on Feb 7, 2023 18:54:25 GMT
I get why a site wouldn’t want to review it (or possibly even couldn’t), but it’s the absolute radio silence as if it didn’t exist full stop that’s weird. Especially given EG’s history, to not even have a “guys we’re not reviewing it and here’s why” is odd.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 7, 2023 18:59:32 GMT
Giving silence to the voiceless.
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Post by Mr Wonderstuff on Feb 7, 2023 19:25:10 GMT
Shame game sites don't review games anymore. What's weird is the Guardian reviewed it - if there was a media outlet which I expected to boycott the game it's this.
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Post by Blue_Mike on Feb 7, 2023 19:34:24 GMT
Missus has me watching the films for the first time and the fact that JKR wrote the Irish kid to be the one who keeps blowing things up is a bit of a dicey one as well.
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Post by hedben on Feb 7, 2023 19:46:29 GMT
Shame game sites don't review games anymore. What's weird is the Guardian reviewed it - if there was a media outlet which I expected to boycott the game it's this. The UK Guardian has such a bad reputation for publishing anti-trans viewpoints that the US Guardian publically distanced themselves from it. Edit - I can't actually find a source for that claim about the US Guardian, but here's one that confirms the reaction to their lefty brand of transphobia www.thepinknews.com/2020/03/07/hundreds-guardian-staff-letter-to-editor-pattern-transphobic-content/
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Post by Lizard on Feb 7, 2023 20:01:32 GMT
The got rid of Suzanne Moore, but they have a fair few commentators with the old 'legitimate concerns'. Sonia Sodha, for example.
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Post by Jambowayoh on Feb 7, 2023 20:24:30 GMT
The got rid of Suzanne Moore, but they have a fair few commentators with the old 'legitimate concerns'. Sonia Sodha, for example. Mate they even posted an article directly referencing the philosophy of Female Dating Strategy and it's associated subreddit but positioned as something as extremely positive. Some of the op-eds on The Gruniad are just pure cognitive dissonance.
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Post by Dgzter on Feb 7, 2023 20:51:22 GMT
Moore, Sodha, and Rowling herself also all frequently decry the abuse they individually receive due to their 'legitimate concerns' whilst simultaneously denouncing other woman -- younger feminists or even public figures such as Nicola Sturgeon -- as being young, stupid and naive, 'traitors to their sex', or useful fools for the patriarchy, inciting social media pile-ons onto those individuals, which invariably results in death threats and the sort of abuse of woman that they purport to stand against.
They are odious hypocrites.
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Post by bichii2 on Feb 7, 2023 20:58:16 GMT
How about a thread for the game and one for the author of the books?
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Post by Dgzter on Feb 7, 2023 21:06:25 GMT
There's already a thread that accommodates that, but point taken.
On the game itself, I thought the ACG review made it look a lot better than I had imagined/expected. PC performance looks rough, mind.
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Post by sport✅ on Feb 7, 2023 21:06:43 GMT
Well you can't really bring up Hitler and not mention his paintings. Just sayin...
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Post by Dgzter on Feb 7, 2023 21:07:54 GMT
Probably worth getting this thread title sorted, incidentally.
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