Harriet Potter - A game changer?

Whats the IT crowd done wrong?

Been written by an absolute prick, presumably.

This is probably what irks many trans folk about Harry Potter.  They may have read it in the usual  innocent way when they were in their early teens.  Love the world and maybe the films,  then JKR steps in and starts bashing trans folk.  All of a sudden your childhood innocence and memories of a beloved world are squashed and steamrollered like a 50's housing block.  Just broken dreams left.  I can understand the pain of that.

Life can suck.

Very very very anti trans.

quadfather those are only a small sample, but here:

It's virtually impossible to untangle and make sense of his obsessiveness over the issue. He's not only dying on a transphobic hill, he's nailed himself to it and is yelling at the clouds circling it, 24/7, wrecking his family and career in the process. Unfathomable zealotry. 

Of all the stories in our sorry cultural history around this issue, his is one of the sorriest.

I actually find Glinner much more problematic than JKR, although his influence is insignificant by comparison.

In the same way that I have more empathy for Palestinian antisemites than I do for White Nationalist ones, I have more empathy for a woman who has been a victim of abuse and faced significant adversity because of her gender than I do for a bitter old cunt who adopted feminism to hate on Trans people when it comes to their behaviour on this issue.

That’s not to justify JKR’s behaviour in any way but the intersection of marginalised groups is always where things get complicated.

Ok, got it all now, cheers

so

basically, there are a group of fanatical zealots that have a large stage on social media.

Where the fuck is the energy coming from to fuel this level of zealotry idealism?

Ah yes. Money.

Separating art from the artist can be tough. Some of my favourite bands have gone through revelations that they are wife beaters. One of them even plotted to hire a hitman to kill his ex. I struggled with it but realised my feelings on the music that came before couldn't change but I could stop supporting them from this point forward and over time they've been phased out of my playlists with alternatives found.

Still think you have to approach it on a case by case basis. Pretty sure we all play, read or watch something that has something or someone dodgy behind the scenes. We buy games made under ridiculous dev crunch conditions, some companies have executives that use the money to fund politicians we despise, Dante from DMC is one of my favourite characters and his voice actor is a full on conspiracy theory, pro Capitol Hill riot nutter. All you can do is listen and be open to changing your opinion when facts come in.

Then again, think I can categorically say no-one listens to Lostprophets any more.

Sorry...what's this about From above? I missed it, would love to know.

Re: boycotting, I think (it's been fast-moving) general consensus in the thread has been that this is a matter for the individual, which seems sensible to me. No one is forcing or judging. 

Someone mentioned Kevin Spacey which I thought was a good example. I'm not avoiding his stuff on principle, I just struggle to stomach the idea of rewatching something like American Beauty, which I also loved.

That said, I watched Glengarry again the other day and /that scene/ with him and Al Pacino was even more gratifying. 

I just can't get it in my head how something becomes something else after the creator is shown to be hateful. So if I read the hp books when I was younger and loved them then suddenly the author is a dick it changes nothing about why the books were great. It doesn't change r Kelly's music (never liked it). If we linked everything most artists we like would be banned. Hell, no one would be allowed to watch football anymore. Jk is clearly an old lady stuck in her old fashioned views but that doesn't suddenly mean childhoods are now ruined and the fantasy world she created is now bad. I'm sure I could find a long list of famous people who have said plenty of hateful and sexist things towards women, it doesn't make their art any less amazing or beautiful or thought provoking. Edit. Plenty of men love Mike Tyson or 2pac if they are into boxing or rap. They are two of the most famous people in their fields. Both were psycho rapists and violent towards multiple women but yet they are still loved and 2pacs mucic heavy listened to and talked about. 

Do you still support Facebook and Twitter?  They also give her relevance and influence.

Not attacking but just pointing out that Musk and Zucks seem to think it is ok.