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Post by mcmonkeyplc on Jun 13, 2024 13:38:22 GMT
Indeed strikes me as something Ineos saw in the past and did a massive face palm.
You never tell anyone you're loaded in a negotiation when you're buying.
I don't think I've ever heard a company ever say that I negotiate contracts all the time.
Woodward was so great ๐
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Post by Trowel ๐ด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ท๓ ฌ๓ ณ๓ ฟ on Jun 13, 2024 20:25:01 GMT
Everton have one decent ITK left. This is he. ๐ญ
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Post by Dougs on Jun 13, 2024 21:33:51 GMT
Top prospect is Branthwaite. When does his contract run out?
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Post by Trowel ๐ด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ท๓ ฌ๓ ณ๓ ฟ on Jun 13, 2024 22:36:37 GMT
2027.
In a just world we'd have a nice bidding war over the summer.
In a world of PSR we've got a fortnight to pack him off somewhere.
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Post by Dougs on Jun 14, 2024 5:08:43 GMT
That's shit.
Saw a Villa fan on twitter having a pop at Arsenal, about Villa having to sell their best players, despite having CL football etc. I had to point to seasons 2008-16 where that's all we did.
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Post by mcmonkeyplc on Jun 14, 2024 8:29:59 GMT
2027. In a just world we'd have a nice bidding war over the summer. In a world of PSR we've got a fortnight to pack him off somewhere. Why within 2 weeks?
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Post by Dougs on Jun 14, 2024 8:53:42 GMT
30 June is the cut off date for compliance.
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Post by Trowel ๐ด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ท๓ ฌ๓ ณ๓ ฟ on Jun 14, 2024 9:04:18 GMT
The contrast between Everton and Man Utd in recent years is a nice case study in the broken regulatory model of the Premier League, given the polar opposite approaches being taken to player trading, debt management and servicing, and investment in stadia infrastructure.
Our negative position is enforced by our lousy management over the preceding years, while United's positive position is propped up almost entirely by commercial activities, both of which contribute directly to on field performance and league finishes.
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Post by simple on Jun 14, 2024 10:06:37 GMT
Everton have one decent ITK left. This is he. ๐ญ BBC saying ยฃ80m asking price. They mustnโt have read of Unitedโs war chest woes earlier in this thread.
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Post by hicksy on Jun 14, 2024 10:10:40 GMT
Swap deal for Maguire will bring that down ยฃ50.
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Post by mcmonkeyplc on Jun 14, 2024 10:10:42 GMT
The contrast between Everton and Man Utd in recent years is a nice case study in the broken regulatory model of the Premier League, given the polar opposite approaches being taken to player trading, debt management and servicing, and investment in stadia infrastructure. Our negative position is enforced by our lousy management over the preceding years, while United's positive position is propped up almost entirely by commercial activities, both of which contribute directly to on field performance and league finishes. Errm we're not exactly swimming in money either.
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Post by simple on Jun 14, 2024 10:21:42 GMT
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Post by askew on Jun 14, 2024 10:26:45 GMT
All that value wiped off after this season
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Post by Syrette on Jun 14, 2024 10:36:52 GMT
The contrast between Everton and Man Utd in recent years is a nice case study in the broken regulatory model of the Premier League, given the polar opposite approaches being taken to player trading, debt management and servicing, and investment in stadia infrastructure. Our negative position is enforced by our lousy management over the preceding years, while United's positive position is propped up almost entirely by commercial activities, both of which contribute directly to on field performance and league finishes. Errm we're not exactly swimming in money either. Diddums
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Post by monkman5000 on Jun 14, 2024 10:41:20 GMT
2027. In a just world we'd have a nice bidding war over the summer. In a world of PSR we've got a fortnight to pack him off somewhere. Hoping the fee will still be decent at least, as we almost certainly have to do exactly the same with Murillo.
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Post by mikew1985 on Jun 14, 2024 12:28:50 GMT
2027. In a just world we'd have a nice bidding war over the summer. In a world of PSR we've got a fortnight to pack him off somewhere. That is really depressing isn't it...
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Post by mikew1985 on Jun 14, 2024 12:30:47 GMT
The contrast between Everton and Man Utd in recent years is a nice case study in the broken regulatory model of the Premier League, given the polar opposite approaches being taken to player trading, debt management and servicing, and investment in stadia infrastructure. Our negative position is enforced by our lousy management over the preceding years, while United's positive position is propped up almost entirely by commercial activities, both of which contribute directly to on field performance and league finishes. Errm we're not exactly swimming in money either. We are still comparatively swimming in money. We have to manage it more than we SHOULD have to manage it due to previous terrible mismanagement and poor transfer planning/spending but the difference between the position United are in and the position Everton are in is night and day.
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Post by mcmonkeyplc on Jun 14, 2024 14:04:45 GMT
Errm we're not exactly swimming in money either. We are still comparatively swimming in money. We have to manage it more than we SHOULD have to manage it due to previous terrible mismanagement and poor transfer planning/spending but the difference between the position United are in and the position Everton are in is night and day. Comparatively yes, but we still have to abide by the same regulations. We are not a good example of a team that can get around regulations. That would be one of the state owned teams.
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Post by Syrette on Jun 14, 2024 14:38:50 GMT
We are still comparatively swimming in money. We have to manage it more than we SHOULD have to manage it due to previous terrible mismanagement and poor transfer planning/spending but the difference between the position United are in and the position Everton are in is night and day. We are not a good example of a team that can get around regulations. That would be one of the state owned teams. Man City (presumably) yes, but I'm not sure what rules PSG and Newcastle have gotten around? PSG have been punished for indiscretions, and Newcastle appear to have stuck to the laws in place, albeit begrudgingly.
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Post by mikew1985 on Jun 14, 2024 14:50:45 GMT
We are still comparatively swimming in money.ย We have to manage it more than we SHOULD have to manage it due to previous terrible mismanagement and poor transfer planning/spending but the difference between the position United are in and the position Everton are in is night and day. Comparatively yes, but we still have to abide by the same regulations. We are not a good example of a team that can get around regulations. That would be one of the state owned teams. Of course we have to abide by the rules but we don't HAVE to sell kobbie mainoo. That's basically the situation Everton are in - massively promising young player that you'd never normally consider selling for anything other than silly money but they'll be forced to do so probably for a lot less than they would otherwise do so
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Post by Trowel ๐ด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ท๓ ฌ๓ ณ๓ ฟ on Jun 14, 2024 15:33:20 GMT
The contrast I was making was United sitting on over ยฃ1Bn of (managed) debt, spunking out readily on the likes of Sancho and Anfony with wages to boot, and investing nothing in Old Trafford (interesting timing on the training ground investment).
All of which is possible thanks to official tyre manufacturer deals etc.
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Post by Dougs on Jun 14, 2024 16:05:59 GMT
Utd can only manage that buy out because of their vast commercial income though. Anyone else and they'd have been in trouble a long time ago.
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Post by mcmonkeyplc on Jun 14, 2024 16:18:07 GMT
The contrast I was making was United sitting on over ยฃ1Bn of (managed) debt, spunking out readily on the likes of Sancho and Anfony with wages to boot, and investing nothing in Old Trafford (interesting timing on the training ground investment). All of which is possible thanks to official tyre manufacturer deals etc. Yes, and? We wouldn't even have that ยฃ1bn debt if the glazers didn't saddle us with it. We didn't create that debt the cunts did. I still don't know why you're using us as an example. Is it because you might have to sell Braithwaite and we don't have to sell Mainoo like Mike said?
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Post by Trowel ๐ด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ท๓ ฌ๓ ณ๓ ฟ on Jun 14, 2024 16:40:01 GMT
Yes - I made the comparison because of Branthwaite, as an example of how the current rules perpetuate a top heavy advantage and effectively encourage a feeder structure to squad building.
Anyhow, looks like the mad owner of Roma is going to buy Everton now, and hopefully our stadium will come up trumps and we'll finish 7th at some point in the next 20 years.
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Post by Trowel ๐ด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ท๓ ฌ๓ ณ๓ ฟ on Jun 14, 2024 16:41:13 GMT
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Post by Trowel ๐ด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ท๓ ฌ๓ ณ๓ ฟ on Jun 14, 2024 16:45:10 GMT
I mean, what the fuck is this
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Post by cristar on Jun 14, 2024 16:49:53 GMT
Our entire budget for the summer.
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Post by Frog on Jun 14, 2024 16:59:19 GMT
How much is he worth when there have been about 15 defenders in history that have gone for more than 50.
3 of those shouldn't have been over 50 as well.
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Post by Trowel ๐ด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ท๓ ฌ๓ ณ๓ ฟ on Jun 14, 2024 17:07:46 GMT
He's worth as much as Everton choose to value him at.
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Post by mcmonkeyplc on Jun 14, 2024 17:07:57 GMT
I'm sure Man City will bid for him eventually, he can go sit on their bench.
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