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Post by X201 on Sept 9, 2022 9:05:27 GMT
Obviously Charles is going to get the same level of outpouring of grief when he carks it, right? Right? This might be controversial, but... how about you just don't have a queen. Or a king. Or a royal family at all. That would mean having a Johnson, Trump or Bolsonaro as our national figurehead. |
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Post by rockavitch on Sept 9, 2022 9:05:53 GMT
The British blue/black passport might actually have some value now as they're the last ones issued in her name. Expecting to see them pop up on eBay when they expire.
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Post by MolarAm🔵 on Sept 9, 2022 9:10:40 GMT
This might be controversial, but... how about you just don't have a queen. Or a king. Or a royal family at all. That would mean having a Johnson, Trump or Bolsonaro as our national figurehead. But at least you could marinate in the knowledge/horror that they were the devils you chose. |
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Post by mikeck on Sept 9, 2022 9:13:14 GMT
I'm not a royalist at all and have no love for the royal family, but I've also had no ill-will towards the Queen, so this morning when my five year old daughter said she didn't want a King made me realise she's now going to grow up likely never seeing a Queen on the throne again. I know that's not a ground-breaking thing, we'll all get over it, but it obviously struck a chord with my daughter (her school did a lot of jubilee celebrations which is why she knows so much about her).
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Post by mikeck on Sept 9, 2022 9:15:08 GMT
The British blue/black passport might actually have some value now as they're the last ones issued in her name. Expecting to see them pop up on eBay when they expire. Be all sorts of things now seeing inflated values; my old coleagues at Mattel sent me listings on eBay this morning for the limited edition Queen doll they did which are now bidding in the thousands. |
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Post by Chopsen on Sept 9, 2022 9:18:41 GMT
This might be controversial, but... how about you just don't have a queen. Or a king. Or a royal family at all. That would mean having a Johnson, Trump or Bolsonaro as our national figurehead. We might not.
Part of the reason the Tories have been in power is that the voting system and demographics make it so.
The majority of people did not vote for the Tories. Even in England (usually viewed as their support base) on its own, they did not get the majority of the popular vote.
If we had a president voted by a STV system (or even a multi-round system like what France has), I think we'd more likely get a centre-left candidate winning.
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Post by Danno on Sept 9, 2022 9:20:01 GMT
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Post by drhickman1983 on Sept 9, 2022 9:22:42 GMT
The British blue/black passport might actually have some value now as they're the last ones issued in her name. Expecting to see them pop up on eBay when they expire. Be all sorts of things now seeing inflated values; my old coleagues at Mattel sent me listings on eBay this morning for the limited edition Queen doll they did which are now bidding in the thousands. Good time to offload those DVDs of The Queen's Corgi. |
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Post by X201 on Sept 9, 2022 9:24:50 GMT
That would mean having a Johnson, Trump or Bolsonaro as our national figurehead. But at least you could marinate in the knowledge/horror that they were the devils you chose. Then they should be chosen at birth, like the Dalai Lama, we could then spend 20 years educating them so that they don't become a national embarrassment. |
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Post by Tuffty on Sept 9, 2022 9:25:42 GMT
If the football was on, people would only complain that the tributes/silence/knee taking wasn’t as good for Liz as it was for BLM I've already seen comments to that effect where they said "NOW is the time for players to KNEEL" |
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Post by technoish on Sept 9, 2022 9:26:21 GMT
One commentator yesterday: the thing about the queen was she really enjoyed being the queen.
Like wtf! Living in palaces, going to parties and events, etc.
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Post by Reviewer on Sept 9, 2022 9:26:22 GMT
Wills hasn't fucked about with getting his title updated on Twitter... Jesus! Are you channeling a Daily Mail reporter? |
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Post by Vandelay on Sept 9, 2022 9:28:45 GMT
This might be controversial, but... how about you just don't have a queen. Or a king. Or a royal family at all. That would mean having a Johnson, Trump or Bolsonaro as our national figurehead. Is President Johnson any more embarrassing than Prime Minister Johnson? It's also not like the history of the British Royal family is spotless. |
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Post by Reviewer on Sept 9, 2022 9:28:50 GMT
I wonder if I’d like being the King. You get to be rich and travel the world surrounded by servants but when do you get to binge Netflix for 8 hours a day or get a dirty takeaway?
I wonder if they get a special supply of prostitutes or if they just murder each one afterwards to keep them quiet.
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Post by Bongo Heracles on Sept 9, 2022 9:29:03 GMT
As if Wills doesnt have a servant to tweet for him
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Post by Reviewer on Sept 9, 2022 9:29:41 GMT
Meghan?
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Post by Frog on Sept 9, 2022 9:36:00 GMT
Bit racist.
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Post by Ulythium on Sept 9, 2022 9:36:28 GMT
I'm firmly in the 'republican, but don't care either way' camp, myself.
My gripe is with the monarchy as a whole, not the Queen in particular - she was just a product of a system (or a symptom of a disease, if you prefer) that I dislike strongly.
I don't see her death as a positive thing, because a) I didn't think she was all that bad, specifically, and b) it doesn't take us any closer to jettisoning the Royal Family altogether; at the same time, I don't see her death as a negative thing either, because she was just another public figure towards whom I held nothing more than apathy.
Hell, looking at the other celebrities who've died thus far in 2022, I was *much* more saddened by the passing of Ray Liotta, Taylor Hawkins, Gabe Serbian, Gilbert Gottfried, Estelle Harris, Mark Lanegan, and Bob Saget. Their lives and work meant something to me, to varying extents, which I can't say about a single member of the Royal Family.
If this event genuinely saddens you, for whatever reason, by all means grieve away - I don't understand it, but I won't go out of my way to be a contrarian dick about it, either.
If you're going to use it as some sort of bullshit 'more patriotic than thou' purity test, shedding crocodile tears and waving your Union Jack flag while judging the hell out of of anyone who feels differently, you can fuck right off.
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Post by waffleaber on Sept 9, 2022 9:37:47 GMT
That would mean having a Johnson, Trump or Bolsonaro as our national figurehead. Is President Johnson any more embarrassing than Prime Minister Johnson? It's also not like the history of the British Royal family is spotless. No but prime minister Truss and president Johnson definitely is. I like having an apolitical head of state, having two governing bodies of different parties seems like nothing would get done and having two of the same seems pointless. |
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Post by Buu on Sept 9, 2022 9:40:25 GMT
One commentator yesterday: the thing about the queen was she really enjoyed being the queen. Like wtf! Living in palaces, going to parties and events, etc. Yeah I had to laugh at that. It must be really hard working out which palace you want to spend your time in. Imagine the horror of having to pick and the stress that if you don't like being there, you'd have to get an awful private jet back to another one of your estates. |
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Post by Danno on Sept 9, 2022 9:41:18 GMT
Mark Lanegan was this year? This is the longest year ever. If it doesn't fuck off soon I'll fuck myself off
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Post by Bongo Heracles on Sept 9, 2022 9:43:57 GMT
Its funny that we are now on the 'stats' part of filling dead space, pulling out benchmarks she set purely by virtue of the invention of the jet engine, the internet and modern medicine.
'She has travelled the furthest of any other british monarach'. Yeah, she has a private jet. Queen Victoria was dragged everywhere behind a horse.
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Post by Ulythium on Sept 9, 2022 9:46:52 GMT
DannoYeah, February. Feels as though it was further back though, right?
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Post by retro74 on Sept 9, 2022 9:48:54 GMT
I didn’t even know that Ray Liotta was dead until I read it up there about ten seconds ago
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Post by X201 on Sept 9, 2022 9:51:11 GMT
The News Quiz is still in the schedules for Radio 4 tonight.
HIGNFY hasn't managed to make the jump to BBC Two though (Like EastEnders, and other stuff cleared from the BBC One schedule)
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Post by Nanocrystal on Sept 9, 2022 9:51:16 GMT
Australian parliament shutting down for two weeks because of this. What an absolute fucking joke.
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Post by Psiloc on Sept 9, 2022 9:53:45 GMT
If this event genuinely saddens you, for whatever reason, by all means grieve away - I don't understand it, but I won't go out of my way to be a contrarian dick about it, either. GTFO with this level headed crap |
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Post by Syrette on Sept 9, 2022 9:55:44 GMT
Queen Victoria was dragged everywhere behind a horse. Like in Red Dead Redemption? |
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Post by Psiloc on Sept 9, 2022 9:56:06 GMT
Anyway turns out, I'm in the "I'm surprised how sad this made me" camp
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Post by MolarAm🔵 on Sept 9, 2022 10:03:04 GMT
I dunno, obviously this is not as central to my life as it is for most of the people here. But personally I would prefer it if my Head of State actually lived in my state, and had some interaction with it aside from being on the back of our coins, the odd rushed visit, and the odd "your representative deciding to fire our Prime Minister" incident.
So while I didn't have a specific problem with the Queen, I am emphatically a republican, and hope that Charles getting in will put that back on the table for us. It's just a bit silly at this point.
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