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Post by crashV👀d👀 on Jul 29, 2023 8:21:29 GMT
Y’all know that you can extract and imprint that shit once, right? Doesn’t solve the problem entirely but if you have some gear that’s 20 levels out of date, you can solve that.  Yeah but it was a good roll. If I extract it and put it on something else, I get the lowest rolls. Don't I? Let me just sanity check that with you lot noooo. Any aspect reward that goes into the codex is always the lowest roll possible. Any aspect extracted from gear is imprinted as is. Nothing changes (with caveats). You want to be finding aspects on legs to imprint on your gear because this is where the best rolls are. The ones in the codex are just to get you started. As you go up gear tiers the values in the percentage ranges changes so obvs you any the better ranges. These ranges only change within the current tier if going to or from and amulet or 2h. Basically if you have a max roll on a pair of gloves then don't stick with that pair of gloves forever. Find another set that are load sbetter extract and imprint it on something. |
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Post by Vortex on Jul 29, 2023 8:21:53 GMT
I thought the main problem was when you affix it, you can't move it again so that good roll is lost if you get a better bit of gear and want to change again.
Which is a bit annoying. My main issue is actually getting better gear at the moment. Which is getting a bit annoying. I am mostly arsing about in eternal, not seasonal realm though, so maybe better gear exists there.
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Post by crashV👀d👀 on Jul 29, 2023 8:28:36 GMT
Aspects can be extracted and imprinted once. You can't re-extract.
As you play you need to keep an eye out for the aspects you want for the build that you're playing and extract and store them(especially static values). This way whenever you get better gear you always have an aspect you can replace onto it.
Your fallback is the codex, if you can't find a fresh roll on new gear then the codex aspect is better than no aspect at all.
My problem on necro is that some aspects are drops only and they hardly fuckin drop. +2 skellies is rare as fuck at the moment so I've been stuck with this helm forever, I need this aspect.
Fixed aspects never change all the way up. +2 skellies will always be +2 skellies.
Ranges can not only roll anything within the range to give you min and max rolls (this is why you wants from gear) but the actual ranges can change depending on gear type and tier.
As a fake example with flat numbers but percentage ranges work the same.
Regular tier - low ranges
The range on helm, chest, gloves, pants, boots and offhand can be 100-200.
On a amulet it can be 150-300
On a 2h it can be 200-400
Sacred - mid ranges
The range on helm, chest, gloves, pants, boots and offhand can be 200-400.
On a amulet it can be 300-600
On a 2h it can be 400-800
Ancestral - high ranges
The range on helm, chest, gloves, pants, boots and offhand can be 400-800.
On a amulet it can be 600-1200
On a 2h it can be 800-1600
Moving ranged aspects from flat gear to an amulet or 2h will boost it. Moving from an amulet or 2h back to flat gear will reduce it.
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Post by Vortex on Jul 29, 2023 8:37:13 GMT
Exactly. I had a few +2 minions at the start, but now they're almost used up. I had a top minion damage one and a very good ultimate bonus damage roll too and have never got any others. It's all bone spear or blood lance /mist stuff which i don't use. 😢
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Post by crashV👀d👀 on Jul 29, 2023 8:47:30 GMT
Exactly. I had a few +2 minions at the start, but now they're almost used up. I had a top minion damage one and a very good ultimate bonus damage roll too and have never got any others. It's all bone spear or blood lance /mist stuff which i don't use. 😢 To that I would say you don't need to swap gear as much. Unless the gear with the a Imprint on it is a bit crap then hold off swapping and using one of your extracted aspects until you get a big jump in gear. Personally, I have never ever seen a minion damage or a blood mist aspect yet and I think I'm level 61. Forget Ring on Mendeln, this asoect is one my chase items. maxroll.gg/d4/wiki/aspect-of-frenzied-dead |
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Post by Warrender on Jul 29, 2023 9:20:55 GMT
For anyone chasing aspects, my suggestion is to do Helltides. Even with the mystery chest nerf, it's still a great way to do it. You not only get legendaries from the chests but obols from events you should be doing. Use this to find out which piece of gear to gamble your obols on to try and get the aspect you are chasing: diablo4.life/tools/gambling |
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Post by Phattso on Jul 29, 2023 11:11:48 GMT
Busy week at work so relatively little chance to play this. Tried to get back into it this morning. Zero fun. Am I… am I out? Might go back to my Eternal Realm character. See if that helps. |
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Post by crashV👀d👀 on Jul 29, 2023 11:44:29 GMT
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Post by quadfather on Jul 29, 2023 12:17:26 GMT
Right I think I get the aspects now, cheers. I do understand the gear tier ranges that affect aspects, got that bit. But then I'd missed the fact you can extract and store in your inventory as a one off too.
I understand the caveats now.
So if I find something that has +2 rogue skill X, then I can put that in the codex and use liberally. But if it's ranged based skills, then I have to pick and choose and will likely find it again later with a higher range and will have to re extract it again from the higher item.
And then yes, there are some that aren't in the codex at all which I keep my eyes out for.
Cheers chaps
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Post by crashV👀d👀 on Jul 29, 2023 12:43:50 GMT
Right I think I get the aspects now, cheers. I do understand the gear tier ranges that affect aspects, got that bit. But then I'd missed the fact you can extract and store in your inventory as a one off too. I understand the caveats now. So if I find something that has +2 rogue skill X, then I can put that in the codex and use liberally. But if it's ranged based skills, then I have to pick and choose and will likely find it again later with a higher range and will have to re extract it again from the higher item. And then yes, there are some that aren't in the codex at all which I keep my eyes out for. Cheers chaps If you unlocked the aspect as a reward for a dungeon then yes it goes into your codex and you can use it literally but it's the lowest roll. If the aspect is on gear and extracted it goes I to your personal stash, aspects tab. From here it can be imprinted onto anothe price of gear one time only. Extracted aspects DO NOT GO INTO THE CODEX. other than that, you got it |
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Post by quadfather on Jul 29, 2023 12:49:36 GMT
Yup, got it |
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Post by MolarAm🔵 on Jul 29, 2023 13:07:40 GMT
I tried rolling a seasonal Necromancer, and just could not get into it. I lasted about 20 minutes.
Not sure exactly what the problem is, but for whatever reason this has not stuck its claws into me in the same way that D3 did (which I played for literally hundreds of hours). I think it's probably the crappy loot, but also that I never really get to feel *powerful* when everything is just scaling along with me.
So I'll give it a rest for a while, I think. BG3 is coming out soon anyway, and that's going to be a bit of a time sink.
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Post by rockavitch on Jul 29, 2023 13:08:49 GMT
Maybe it's something I didn't notice at the start but the last few days when I use the sorceresses teleport I have to take a step back as soon as it finishes so I can actually hit the target again. Was it always like that? Seems like I teleport to their exact location and they don't "exist" until I move. And this is everytime I'm noticing it now.
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Post by crashV👀d👀 on Jul 29, 2023 13:44:19 GMT
Maybe it's something I didn't notice at the start but the last few days when I use the sorceresses teleport I have to take a step back as soon as it finishes so I can actually hit the target again. Was it always like that? Seems like I teleport to their exact location and they don't "exist" until I move. And this is everytime I'm noticing it now. always been like that. I played ice shard sorc in eternal and if you Tele in, freeze and then fire shards then you can't hit them it fires past them. It's a pad issue I think because you autotarget so you Tele right onto mobs putting you too close. With the mouse I Tele just in front and it's not a problem |
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Post by rockavitch on Jul 29, 2023 15:07:30 GMT
Cheers, wonder why I'm only noticing it now. I'll have a look later and see if any of my stats give me something for standing still as maybe I moved around more before then. Just been bugging me a bit.
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Post by Warrender on Jul 29, 2023 16:20:55 GMT
Right I think I get the aspects now, cheers. I do understand the gear tier ranges that affect aspects, got that bit. But then I'd missed the fact you can extract and store in your inventory as a one off too. Or you can just store the legendary in the stash without extracting it if you are not going to use it right away. |
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Post by quadfather on Jul 29, 2023 17:38:38 GMT
Yeah I normally err on the side of caution and stash things till I can work out the best option
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Post by Danno on Jul 29, 2023 20:13:44 GMT
I'm tired from all the slaying?
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Post by Danno on Jul 29, 2023 21:30:10 GMT
I am getting rather tired of being one-shot by things that aren't on screen: Corpse Bows, Banshees, Savage Beasts etc. When you're fighting 30 mobs at once it's irritating when a few have the ability to smash you for 90% of your life in a single unforeseeable attack. Lightning/Cold enchanted can do one as well until they make resists meaningful.
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Post by quadfather on Jul 30, 2023 2:29:39 GMT
I can't get used to this rapid fire build. Its got flurry in too.
I don't know whether I've just not clicked with it yet, but I swapped flurry out for shadow imbuement and already things are dropping quicker.
It was killing things with ease earlier but you know what it's like
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Post by ekz on Jul 30, 2023 3:18:50 GMT
Flurry is brilliant if you have the encircling blades aspect for it and use the combo points specialisation.
You can get the aspect from the Forsaken Quarry dungeon.
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Post by awimbawe on Jul 30, 2023 10:19:34 GMT
My interest in this was seriously waning after going druid for the launch then Rogue for the season. Then I thought I'd try a Necromancer - holy shit, this is more like it. Think I'm levelling up twice as fast as on my druid and I'm actually looking forward to logging in to play rather than waiting for a unique helm to drop for my druid to actually make builds interesting.
But there's still something missing, maybe it's the loot but D3 was like a drug for me and this just doesn't have that same hook.
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Post by crashV👀d👀 on Jul 30, 2023 11:02:59 GMT
Yeah is silly op at the moment. Finally got a decent wrathful the other night, not a barber but it was still a nice boost.
I'm going to keep going with this minion build and hopefully transition to a Mendeln build if I can get the ring or I'll go for the infinimist.
We'll see how far I get but the next season of PoE starts soon.
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Post by ned on Jul 30, 2023 11:05:06 GMT
I can't get used to this rapid fire build. Its got flurry in too. I don't know whether I've just not clicked with it yet, but I swapped flurry out for shadow imbuement and already things are dropping quicker. It was killing things with ease earlier but you know what it's like I tried that build (not for very long admittedly) and went back to the one is cobbled together myself. Forceful arrow Rapid Fire Coltraps Poison Trap An imbuement (shadow at the moment) Rain of Arrows Probably considered shit or inefficient, but I find the forceful arrow knock back fun, with the extra crit chance on knockdowns from repaid fire melts stuff. Poison trap with the taunt heart and and shadow imbuement seems to work well. Then an imbued rain of arrows is a laugh I use the combo points rogue thing too. Only 33 ish though so will have to revisit later on |
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Post by quadfather on Jul 30, 2023 11:54:12 GMT
Flurry is brilliant if you have the encircling blades aspect for it and use the combo points specialisation. You can get the aspect from the Forsaken Quarry dungeon. Ah nice one ill check that out |
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Post by quadfather on Jul 30, 2023 11:55:15 GMT
I can't get used to this rapid fire build. Its got flurry in too. I don't know whether I've just not clicked with it yet, but I swapped flurry out for shadow imbuement and already things are dropping quicker. It was killing things with ease earlier but you know what it's like I tried that build (not for very long admittedly) and went back to the one is cobbled together myself. Forceful arrow Rapid Fire Coltraps Poison Trap An imbuement (shadow at the moment) Rain of Arrows Probably considered shit or inefficient, but I find the forceful arrow knock back fun, with the extra crit chance on knockdowns from repaid fire melts stuff. Poison trap with the taunt heart and and shadow imbuement seems to work well. Then an imbued rain of arrows is a laugh I use the combo points rogue thing too. Only 33 ish though so will have to revisit later on Yeah I've got a half and half build going at the moment. I'll just keep tweaking it I think |
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Post by Danno on Jul 30, 2023 23:35:14 GMT
The one shotting is getting really irritating. Snakes? Get fucked. Ghosts? Get fucked. Revenants? Get fucked. Goatmen? Get fucked. 19 quillbeasts? Get fucked. And on and on and on.
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Post by quadfather on Jul 30, 2023 23:57:40 GMT
Flurry is brilliant if you have the encircling blades aspect for it and use the combo points specialisation. You can get the aspect from the Forsaken Quarry dungeon. You're right! I've put the aspect in and its improved yet again. Nice one |
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Post by wunty on Jul 31, 2023 9:26:12 GMT
Level 27 now and my icy sorc is starting to feel a little underpowered. I recall this happening with my rogue around this time so will persevere. Still loving the build though and it's definitely helping focusing on one element and going all out. Freezing enemies really helps during more icky situations.
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Post by dfunked on Jul 31, 2023 9:34:11 GMT
Enemies that are immune to freeze kind of scupper that later on in the game, but yeah I had great fun with mine while levelling. (although that was a bit of a mixed bag rather than pure ice. Fireball enchantment and electric basic attack)
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