EMarkM
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Post by EMarkM on Apr 3, 2023 13:53:09 GMT
I do wonder if our interactions with AI and virtual assistants are actually making us ruder; saying please and thank you less. You're going to laugh your cockle off at this, but I really do thank Alexa and Siri when speaking to them... |
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Post by drhickman1983 on Apr 3, 2023 13:55:28 GMT
I actually respect that. Better than not.
If nothing else, if machines do take over that will be one of the metrics they use when deciding which meatsacks to move into the slavepens and which to keep as pets.
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Post by sport✅ on Apr 3, 2023 14:00:26 GMT
I do wonder if our interactions with AI and virtual assistants are actually making us ruder; saying please and thank you less. What? Get fucked. |
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Post by drhickman1983 on Apr 3, 2023 14:12:09 GMT
Fuck off
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Post by Jambowayoh on Apr 3, 2023 14:18:04 GMT
You know what, why don't you all get fucked.
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Post by jono62 on Apr 3, 2023 14:22:50 GMT
I say 'Thanks, fuck off' to Deliveroo and Uber Eats drivers.
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Post by dogbot on Apr 3, 2023 14:28:06 GMT
Evangeline Lilly is particularly good as Hope van Dyne. Can't argue that it didn't do what I asked for. |
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Post by dogbot on Apr 3, 2023 14:30:03 GMT
Maybe so, but based on the art and writing that the current ai bots churn out I'm skeptical. Bard says:
(sorry)
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Post by drhickman1983 on Apr 3, 2023 14:33:18 GMT
To be fair to the ai, it's better than any of the lyrics that Jimmy Pursey wrote.
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Post by dogbot on Apr 3, 2023 14:39:45 GMT
To be fair to the ai, it's better than any of the lyrics that Jimmy Pursey wrote. Yeah. But that's a pretty low bar.  |
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Post by magicpanda on Apr 4, 2023 8:05:36 GMT
It's just going to make everything very derivative..... I really think that depends on how it is used. If you are imaging the scenario where "where AI can combine music to synthesise something new" then yes, maybe. Sure we could end up with people using a "text to music" prompt. But why would musicians use it just for that? Computer assisted music production can do amazing things. For example, tools/programs know how scales "work", and can allow people with limited music theory knowledge to create chords and chord progressions which sound good - which they wouldn't be able to do on their own. That doesn't mean the melody will be a winner, but it allows for quick exploration and experimentation until you land on something better. AI could help find variations in rhythms (whilst still sounding like they come from the same percussionist), add harmonies, or even create whole new (digital) instruments. I agree if used incorrectly it will lead to generic, dull, outputs. But I see it as a new tool, like the camera, or computer. It's the same with Art. I have access to millions of styles, mediums, paintings, artwork over thousands of years of human art and culture and I can smash them together in any way I want to create something new. It easy to bang out a quick picture (using any tools) but it's still a creative process to get the result you want. It's just shortened the workflow from days into hours. This is a result of about an hour of getting something I personally wanted.  This is the finished thing, hundreds and hundreds of human-made creative decisions and a couple of hours later  I love it, the sheer fucking power I have now to create or express a thought or image is just nuts. I can even train it in my own style by inputting my own art to shorten the workflow even more. |
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Post by jeepers on Apr 4, 2023 8:10:31 GMT
“Please put a mask on her and make her tits bigger. Thanks”
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Post by Bill in the rain on Apr 4, 2023 8:52:14 GMT
I generated some female sci-fi avatars and they did all default to skimpy tops and cleavage, so it has clearly learned the lessons of years of sci-fi, fantasy, game character art. |
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Post by magicpanda on Apr 4, 2023 9:12:37 GMT
I generated some female sci-fi avatars and they did all default to skimpy tops and cleavage, so it has clearly learned the lessons of years of sci-fi, fantasy, game character art. It's fucking dizzying, you can train it do what you want, all the Waifu Tech Bros are training up Stable Diffusion models with gigabytes of porn. go to civit . ai (very very nsfw). Right now you could create photorealistic porn images of any person on the planet. I a couple of years, maybe less, flawless full videos of anyone doing anything. |
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Post by jono62 on Apr 4, 2023 9:32:46 GMT
Sounds great.
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Post by Jambowayoh on Apr 4, 2023 9:35:01 GMT
I generated some female sci-fi avatars and they did all default to skimpy tops and cleavage, so it has clearly learned the lessons of years of sci-fi, fantasy, game character art. It's fucking dizzying, you can train it do what you want, all the Waifu Tech Bros are training up Stable Diffusion models with gigabytes of porn. go to civit . ai (very very nsfw). Right now you could create photorealistic porn images of any person on the planet. I a couple of years, maybe less, flawless full videos of anyone doing anything. User Magicpanda has already done this. |
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Post by magicpanda on Apr 4, 2023 9:50:22 GMT
Like caveman making dicks out of clay.
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Post by drhickman1983 on Apr 4, 2023 9:57:17 GMT
Tbh even after dabbling in it briefly I've come to the conclusion that I'm not a fan of AI art, apologies to those who like it or make it.
There's just something about that makes it feel devoid of anything personal or unique.
Maybe I'm a backwards technophobe but I don't like where things are going at all, and haven't for a while. I'm glad I've fucked off out of illustration beside this new approach and workflow does not appeal.
That's just in the realms of art. There's even more troubling notions when it comes to deepfakes etc. We're fucked.
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Post by magicpanda on Apr 4, 2023 10:31:35 GMT
Tbh even after dabbling in it briefly I've come to the conclusion that I'm not a fan of AI art, apologies to those who like it or make it. There's just something about that makes it feel devoid of anything personal or unique. We're at the stage where you cannot tell if a piece of art is A.I generated but we are being flooded with it for now. To say they are devoid of anything personal or unique is also wrong which you would probably know if you had more than just dabbled. The woman i posted above isn't just a random picture, it has meaning to me (which is all that matters), have a guess of what someone close to me was wearing when they died, it wasn't a cool leather jacket. I'm having an absolute blast with it as a tool, like i said above I have access to millions of styles, mediums, paintings, artwork over thousands of years of human art and culture and I can smash them together in any way I want to create something new. The mindfulness you from just zoning out and putting something into pictures is like a fucking drug. I'm all over it until it kills us all. |
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Post by sport✅ on Apr 4, 2023 10:35:54 GMT
That's just in the realms of art. There's even more troubling notions when it comes to deepfakes etc. We're fucked. This is part that disturbs me most. This isn't just a tool to reduce tedious work tasks and create art in minutes, in a few years time, it'll be able to warp our perception of reality. Shit it doesn't take much these days with fake news, imagine when you couple that with images, video, audio (in real time no less). How do you know what's real or not? |
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Post by cubby on Apr 4, 2023 10:42:40 GMT
The whole world's just an illusion anyway. We perceive it according to the spectrums that our eyes can take in and how our brains interpret it.
Just enjoy the head fuck that we're about to go down in the next decade, it's gonna be wild.
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Post by magicpanda on Apr 4, 2023 10:46:27 GMT
That's just in the realms of art. There's even more troubling notions when it comes to deepfakes etc. We're fucked. This is part that disturbs me most. This isn't just a tool to reduce tedious work tasks and create art in minutes, in a few years time, it'll be able to warp our perception of reality. Shit it doesn't take much these days with fake news, imagine when you couple that with images, video, audio (in real time no less). How do you know what's real or not? You don't, the people leading the charge in this field are shouting for everyone to stop. Also, if you photograph food for a living you are fucked.  |
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Post by Jambowayoh on Apr 4, 2023 10:52:21 GMT
This is part that disturbs me most. This isn't just a tool to reduce tedious work tasks and create art in minutes, in a few years time, it'll be able to warp our perception of reality. Shit it doesn't take much these days with fake news, imagine when you couple that with images, video, audio (in real time no less). How do you know what's real or not? You don't, the people leading the charge in this field are shouting for everyone to stop. Also, if you photograph food for a living you are fucked. This would've really helped out E.Cosse. |
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Post by drhickman1983 on Apr 4, 2023 10:59:43 GMT
Tbh even after dabbling in it briefly I've come to the conclusion that I'm not a fan of AI art, apologies to those who like it or make it. There's just something about that makes it feel devoid of anything personal or unique. We're at the stage where you cannot tell if a piece of art is A.I generated but we are being flooded with it for now. To say they are devoid of anything personal or unique is also wrong which you would probably know if you had more than just dabbled. The woman i posted above isn't just a random picture, it has meaning to me (which is all that matters), have a guess of what someone close to me was wearing when they died, it wasn't a cool leather jacket. I'm having an absolute blast with it as a tool, like i said above I have access to millions of styles, mediums, paintings, artwork over thousands of years of human art and culture and I can smash them together in any way I want to create something new. The mindfulness you from just zoning out and putting something into pictures is like a fucking drug. I'm all over it until it kills us all. Nah, I don't like it. That's all there is to it. Personally I mean. Knock yourself out but it's not for me. Of course I've got no choice but to take it because that's the world I sadly live in now. Sorry that's really quite incoherent but I find it hard to articulate. I just don't like it. And I think we'd be better off without it. Which is a view I have about a lot of tech tbh. I'd also say that I can still spot a large number of AI images. It's going to become harder but there are signs that make many AI images easy to spot. |
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Post by jono62 on Apr 4, 2023 11:01:02 GMT
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Post by askew on Apr 4, 2023 11:23:59 GMT
To an extent, everything is a remix, but I would be pretty pissed off if my creative works were being used to train a machine which will make a corporation rich. From the recent episode of Hard Fork, Google are choosing to tread lightly with Bard because they don't want to sabotage their relationships with publishers. |
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Post by drhickman1983 on Apr 4, 2023 11:31:02 GMT
I think my distrust of ai is partly down to making me feel utterly redundant. I mean I don't even work in that field anymore but at least it was some vague skill I could cling to.
Now I'm not sure what the fucking point is. The engineering of prompts and decisions is a skill in itself, and good for you if you enjoy it.
Things are moving far, far too quickly for me, I'd rather things just enter a stasis until I die. I don't particularly want to have to learn new skills to stay relevant, ta.
It just makes me feel very anxious.
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Post by magicpanda on Apr 4, 2023 11:34:22 GMT
To an extent, everything is a remix, but I would be pretty pissed off if my creative works were being used to train a machine which will make a corporation rich. From the recent episode of Hard Fork, Google are choosing to tread lightly with Bard because they don't want to sabotage their relationships with publishers. You already can't generate images of the chubby chinese man in Midjourney or Adobes new offering. |
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Post by dogbot on Apr 4, 2023 11:51:01 GMT
Also, if you photograph food for a living you are fucked. For hundreds of years, people have been saying "technology will kill this, stop that". It hasn't yet, despite the dire predictions. |
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Post by drhickman1983 on Apr 4, 2023 12:03:21 GMT
Maybe not, but technology has fundamentally changed many things in the past. Not always for good, and not always for bad.
I'd say AI has, in terms of its reach and scope, far greater capacity to change our lives than anything before.
There's no way that AI won't fundamentally change the creative industries, especially the commercial side of things. And it's objectively not all bad but the required skillsets will change massively. Actual skill in drawing and draughtsmanship will be less useful than the skill to use the correct prompts. Which is a skill.
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