aubergine
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Post by aubergine on Aug 26, 2023 15:42:26 GMT
I haven't played anything of theirs newer than Morrowind wut… what HAVE you been playing?
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Post by Bill in the rain on Aug 26, 2023 15:49:44 GMT
Mainly shorter indie games.
I haven't really had the time to commit to a massive RPG since back then.
I bought the Oblivion GOTY dvd just before I came to Japan, and brought it with me, and have never gotten around to installing it.
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Post by Reviewer on Aug 26, 2023 17:01:49 GMT
Just do what I do with most games, spend £60 or so on them then only play for an hour or so before moving into the next game
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Post by Aunt Alison on Aug 26, 2023 18:58:59 GMT
I can't speak for all the wizard stuff, but I played Fallout 3 and NV recently and had a good time
I think it's best to just not overthink it with Bethesda RPGs. Everyone knows what they're getting by this point. Yeah, they're shallow and a bit shit but that's also why they're appealing. They are truly open worlds where you can actually go off anywhere and find a self contained story/quest. You aren't really tied down or held back in any way
I hope Starfield turns out to be good and will probably pick it up eventually. Not on release though
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hicksy
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Post by hicksy on Aug 26, 2023 19:45:32 GMT
Bethesda games have also often made me feel like I could actually pull off an impressive beard in game character.
Far from my daily reality. A disappointment to me but a relief to the missus.
For that at least I thank them.
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crashV👀d👀
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Post by crashV👀d👀 on Aug 26, 2023 19:53:53 GMT
If I play a guy, always have a beard cos I cannae grow one myself
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Post by captbirdseye on Aug 26, 2023 22:05:37 GMT
Been funny seeing the nerd meltdown this weekend about not being able to traverse entire planets lol. Add in landing and taking off being automated as well.
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Post by darkling on Aug 26, 2023 22:24:12 GMT
I'm going to attempt to create Ace Rimmer. Would be a pretty funny roleplay.
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Post by Aunt Alison on Aug 26, 2023 22:26:03 GMT
Need a mod to replace all the 'Goodbye' lines with 'Smoke me a kipper, I'll be back for breakfast'
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Post by Tomo on Aug 26, 2023 22:36:11 GMT
Generally I play their games for about 40 hours, suddenly realise "actually... I kind of hate this", then abandon them forever. It happened with Oblivion, FO3 and Skyrim. I went back to FO4, because I thought they might have taken notes from New Vegas and improved their storytelling. And it was improved! But not by enough to stop me from similarly abandoning it. I'm interested to see how Starfield does. But I don't think I'm going to touch it, unless I hear reports that it's drastically different from what they usually do. Yeah, this is exactly same for me. Abandoned Oblivion, Skyrim and FO4. Think I managed to finish FO3 but very much mainlining the story rather than mopping side quests.
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Post by Bill in the rain on Aug 27, 2023 2:36:12 GMT
Just do what I do with most games, spend £60 or so on them then only play for an hour or so before moving into the next game I also have Fallout 3 unplayed
Though there's no way I spent 60 quid on them. I think the Oblivion GOTY dvd was probably about a tenner, and Fallout 3 was $3 (and then later I think epic gave it away free anyway).
I never really considered 'finishing' them the aim of Bethesda RPGs (at least the earlier ones I've played). If I spent 40 (or 400) hours messing around in the world then I'd consider that game a success, even though I don't think I've ever progressed very far along the main story line. I don't even know what the main storyline for Morrowind is.
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Post by Timo180 on Aug 27, 2023 6:07:19 GMT
Been funny seeing the nerd meltdown this weekend about not being able to traverse entire planets lol. Add in landing and taking off being automated as well. Have I misunderstood? Thought Pete Hines did confirm full planet traversal?
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Post by baihu1983 on Aug 27, 2023 6:07:48 GMT
He did.
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MolarAm🔵
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Post by MolarAm🔵 on Aug 27, 2023 6:25:59 GMT
Hang on... are you seriously suggesting that Pete Hines might have exaggerated the scope and possibilities contained in one of his games?!
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Post by Blue_Mike on Aug 27, 2023 6:31:13 GMT
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Post by captbirdseye on Aug 27, 2023 6:58:55 GMT
The game has a terrain limit which Hines didn't mention. For some reason people are losing their minds that you can't walk in straight line for 5 hours.
The expectations of this game are pretty wild and some seem to think this will be like Star Citizen when it's finally released in the year 3000.
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Post by Reviewer on Aug 27, 2023 8:23:27 GMT
Generally I play their games for about 40 hours, suddenly realise "actually... I kind of hate this", then abandon them forever. It happened with Oblivion, FO3 and Skyrim. I went back to FO4, because I thought they might have taken notes from New Vegas and improved their storytelling. And it was improved! But not by enough to stop me from similarly abandoning it. I'm interested to see how Starfield does. But I don't think I'm going to touch it, unless I hear reports that it's drastically different from what they usually do. Yeah, this is exactly same for me. Abandoned Oblivion, Skyrim and FO4. Think I managed to finish FO3 but very much mainlining the story rather than mopping side quests. Same except I didn’t get very far into FO3. Very few games have a good enough story for me to spend that long on them and the gameplay is generally the same throughout, usually with fairly uninteresting tasks. And then I’ll get the sequel and do the same again.
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hicksy
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Post by hicksy on Aug 27, 2023 8:29:39 GMT
To beard up or not in Starfield is a tricky one for sure.
Seems unlikely an interplanetary explorer would opt for a beard due to the need to prioritise personal hygiene to avoid any unwanted issues. However it is cold in space and likely other planets…
Also a consideration is in space food debris is less likely to entangle in a chin tickler as it could well just float away.
Good job 12 days remain to ponder such an important decision…
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Post by apollo on Aug 27, 2023 8:40:11 GMT
I'm going to attempt to create Ace Rimmer. Would be a pretty funny roleplay. Also if you can talk to NPC as Rimmer's hand puppet
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Post by Jambowayoh on Aug 27, 2023 9:17:30 GMT
The game has a terrain limit which Hines didn't mention. For some reason people are losing their minds that you can't walk in straight line for 5 hours. The expectations of this game are pretty wild and some seem to think this will be like Star Citizen when it's finally released in the year 3000. Yes I believe you can walk in a straight line from your ship for about 40 minutes.
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Post by Jambowayoh on Aug 27, 2023 9:20:54 GMT
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Post by hedben on Aug 27, 2023 9:53:09 GMT
I absolutely rinsed both FO3 and Skyrim, completed main and a bunch of side quests before finally being done with it.
The magic of both of those was being able to wander off in a direction and just find stuff- whole questlines, vaults where you had to piece together what happened, Dwemer crypts with a unique weapon at the end. I’m a bit worried that the structure of Starfield won’t allow for that kind of exploration- unless I can do basically the same on a star map.
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Post by Jambowayoh on Aug 27, 2023 9:55:19 GMT
I absolutely rinsed both FO3 and Skyrim, completed main and a bunch of side quests before finally being done with it. The magic of both of those was being able to wander off in a direction and just find stuff- whole questlines, vaults where you had to piece together what happened, Dwemer crypts with a unique weapon at the end. I’m a bit worried that the structure of Starfield won’t allow for that kind of exploration- unless I can do basically the same on a star map. Tbf if you really think about it how big was FO3 and Skyrim's map if you walked in one direction?
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Post by Bill in the rain on Aug 27, 2023 10:19:19 GMT
I absolutely rinsed both FO3 and Skyrim, completed main and a bunch of side quests before finally being done with it. The magic of both of those was being able to wander off in a direction and just find stuff- whole questlines, vaults where you had to piece together what happened, Dwemer crypts with a unique weapon at the end. I’m a bit worried that the structure of Starfield won’t allow for that kind of exploration- unless I can do basically the same on a star map. Exploring on a star map doesn't have the same feeling for me.
I only played Elite Dangerous for a short time, but theoretically you could explore the entire galaxy. in reality it was just fast travel between space ports.
There were some very pretty things to see, like planetary rings, but there weren't actually any things to do there.
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Post by hedben on Aug 27, 2023 10:26:24 GMT
Yeah that’s what I mean- it’s a cliché by now but looking out over an open world, picking a thing on the horizon and going “right, I’ll head towards that I guess” was magical. And I don’t see how Starfield could do that. I do wonder if the folks complaining about not being able to explore every inch of every planet are thinking in the same way- not that they’re right to complain, but they want something you can only get when the entire world/universe is small enough to have been fully curated by hand.
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Post by darkling on Aug 27, 2023 10:45:37 GMT
I absolutely rinsed both FO3 and Skyrim, completed main and a bunch of side quests before finally being done with it. The magic of both of those was being able to wander off in a direction and just find stuff- whole questlines, vaults where you had to piece together what happened, Dwemer crypts with a unique weapon at the end. I’m a bit worried that the structure of Starfield won’t allow for that kind of exploration- unless I can do basically the same on a star map. Tbf if you really think about it how big was FO3 and Skyrim's map if you walked in one direction? Geographically, not very, but the maps - especially Skyrim's - were rich in content. It's this content that make the maps feel big and a joy to explore. Hopefully Starfield achieves similar content density.
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Post by Fake_Blood on Aug 27, 2023 10:54:20 GMT
Never played any of their games, think this will be my first, purely because of the setting, I like space.
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Post by Blue_Mike on Aug 27, 2023 11:42:47 GMT
If people are that bothered about the amount of planetary exploration they can do, they can download the Creation Kit and create their own planets apparently.
Wave of King Kai's world mods incoming, I should imagine.
Or that one where Rimmers' golf ball went right around the planetoid.
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Post by mothercruncher on Aug 27, 2023 13:38:25 GMT
Predictably, they embellished, over promised, blah:
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Post by mothercruncher on Aug 27, 2023 13:39:56 GMT
It’s gone from walking entire planets, so of course we can only do 30fps, to landing on a few maps of a limited size now.
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