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Post by Jambowayoh on Jun 12, 2023 14:54:10 GMT
Insomniac games are only 4k60 in performance mode with no RT. But again this is all apple and oranges to compare game X with game Y in what it does, what it items and states it tracks in all of the game worlds in the game.
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Post by harrypalmer on Jun 12, 2023 15:21:53 GMT
I don't think it's too much to expect that a AAA exclusive has a 60fps mode. Most games do.
The reason they can't do it is because it's Bethesda and they make just about the jankiest games going!
In all likelihood it's not a deal-breaker as it's a Bethesda game in space, which is awesome. But them saying they're targeting 30 fps is like [GENERIC SHIT FOOTBALL PLAYER] saying he's targeting 20 goals a season.
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Post by Jambowayoh on Jun 12, 2023 15:30:28 GMT
Well yeah this engine, all through all of its iterations has ALWAYS been CPU limited and no doubt I would imagine again physics are tied to the frame rate, so I'd be intrigued if it goes over 60fps on pc without breaking. We'll have to wait and see. I think it will be successful because it's a single player Bethesda game and I know it's not an excuse but the mod community has always been the best thing about their games which is terrible as a developer but the imagination the games inspire is pretty cool.
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Post by rhaegyr on Jun 12, 2023 15:37:32 GMT
I'd give more of a shit about the graphics and framerate if I wasn't still rocking a 42" 720P plasma TV and a Series S - it'll all be wasted on me anyway.
I've never really gelled with Bethesda games but I'll definitely give this one a go. Reminds me of the early Mass Effect hype.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 12, 2023 15:40:28 GMT
It will be the prettiest 360 game you’ve ever played.
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Post by crashV👀d👀 on Jun 12, 2023 15:41:46 GMT
Well yeah this engine, all through all of its iterations has ALWAYS been CPU limited and no doubt I would imagine again physics are tied to the frame rate, so I'd be intrigued if it goes over 60fps on pc without breaking. We'll have to wait and see. I think it will be successful because it's a single player Bethesda game and I know it's not an excuse but the mod community has always been the best thing about their games which is terrible as a developer but the imagination the games inspire is pretty cool. Yeah I'm pretty sure it'll max at 60fps out of the box just they did with fallout. Hopefully they don't tie the loading to the same fucking frame rate like they did in that. FO4 was magnitudes better with the cap released and nearly instant level loading. |
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Post by dangerousdave on Jun 12, 2023 18:12:12 GMT
Given the general pacing of the game, 30fps is absolutely fine with me. What worries me is that I lasted around 5 hours with Fallout 4 because of how janky it felt, rather than how janky it looked. Bethesda have yet to design a control system that doesn't feel like a basic control set up for testing button inputs, rather than actually playing a game.
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Post by mothercruncher on Jun 12, 2023 18:43:36 GMT
I get that too- I suspect VATS was actually a sticking plaster over that- freeze shit and offer preselected points you had no chance of catching on the fly. The video trailer has a couple of classic feeling “first person” shooting cuts that looked convincing though, who knows.
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Post by bichii2 on Jun 12, 2023 19:44:40 GMT
Given the general pacing of the game, 30fps is absolutely fine with me. What worries me is that I lasted around 5 hours with Fallout 4 because of how janky it felt, rather than how janky it looked. Bethesda have yet to design a control system that doesn't feel like a basic control set up for testing button inputs, rather than actually playing a game. Didn't id software help out a bit with the combat in this though?? |
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Post by dangerousdave on Jun 12, 2023 20:28:18 GMT
If they did, that’s excellent news! Starfield does obviously look a lot smoother than Fallout/Elder Scrolls, but I’ll believe it when I actually get to control it.
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Post by hicksy on Jun 12, 2023 20:30:32 GMT
Looks great to me BUT not expecting to dive in until 6 months after release due to inevitable bugs!
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Post by ozthegweat on Jun 12, 2023 21:20:35 GMT
If it really would run from 40 to 60fps on console, there's no excuse for not providing a VRR mode. I guess it really runs at 25-30, and a VRR mode would prove they're talking out of their arses.
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Post by Blue_Mike on Jun 13, 2023 1:36:15 GMT
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Post by Solid-SCB- on Jun 13, 2023 6:53:55 GMT
Red flags, red flags everywhere.
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Post by muddyfunster on Jun 13, 2023 7:18:09 GMT
In fairness I don't remember Fallout 4 feeling broken on release, at least on PS4. I'm sure there were plenty but the experience was fine iirc. Bit boring more than buggy.
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Post by robthehermit on Jun 13, 2023 7:24:56 GMT
That's the controller ordered. I am weak. The only reason I'm not ordering the headset is my boss bought me the beoplay portals for my birthday a couple of months back.
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Post by baihu1983 on Jun 13, 2023 7:30:30 GMT
Telling myself I don't need to spend £70 on a new controller.
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Post by Bill in the rain on Jun 13, 2023 8:35:19 GMT
It has a special controller??
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Post by robthehermit on Jun 13, 2023 8:49:42 GMT
It has a special controller?? Depends on your definition of special.  |
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Post by aubergine on Jun 13, 2023 11:04:03 GMT
I get that too- I suspect VATS was actually a sticking plaster over that- freeze shit and offer preselected points you had no chance of catching on the fly. The video trailer has a couple of classic feeling “first person” shooting cuts that looked convincing though, who knows. The shooting appeared to be auto-targeting to me, like that gun in Halo, the needler was it? I watched 15-20 minutes of the presentation and it just left me cold, I think it looks terrible. I mean, the game’s appearance is terrible and the game itself appears to be a terrible game, ten thousand hours of bland mush. I may have also just lost heaps of confidence in Bethesda after Fallout 4 and especially Fallout 76. |
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Post by Jambowayoh on Jun 13, 2023 11:30:28 GMT
Objectively I think terrible is a tad OTT.
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Post by aubergine on Jun 13, 2023 11:33:52 GMT
So you think it looks a tad better than terrible. This is not an endorsement.
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Post by skalpadda on Jun 13, 2023 12:14:15 GMT
It's not like it would take some miracle for this to be true given Bethesda never seem to have had neither the manpower nor any real willingness to properly test their games. |
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Post by Bill in the rain on Jun 13, 2023 12:32:26 GMT
It's something they say for every Elder Scrolls game, so I guess they thought they'd just continue the tradition.
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Post by Blue_Mike on Jun 13, 2023 12:47:44 GMT
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Post by RadicalRex on Jun 13, 2023 12:49:05 GMT
Note how the wording can be interpreted as the number of different bugs, not the number of occurrences
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Post by Jambowayoh on Jun 13, 2023 12:49:48 GMT
So you think it looks a tad better than terrible. This is not an endorsement. I'm not sure I said that but knock yourself out. |
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Post by Resident Knievel on Jun 13, 2023 13:15:58 GMT
Starfield confirmed to have less bugs than Starship Troopers
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Post by baihu1983 on Jun 13, 2023 13:44:01 GMT
It won't happen but one of the planets needs to have those bugs on it.
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Post by Whizzo on Jun 13, 2023 14:01:33 GMT
Starfield confirmed to have less bugs than Starship Troopers Given Sony owns everything Starship Troopers, other than the book publishing rights, they probably couldn't put that on the cover. |
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