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Post by Bill in the rain on Aug 24, 2022 2:37:11 GMT
Another decent point and click worth playing is the Star Trek 25th Anniversary game - specifically the special edition released on CD in 1994 and voiced by the original cast. Really captures the original series. Yeah, this was good. Also, a little newer and 3d: The Longest Journey. Personally Blade Runner and Fate of Atlantis are probably my faves. I have fond memories of Indy: The Last Crusade, but that's probably more due to when I played it than it actually being great. It doesn't look as good as Fate of Atlantis. Lure of the Temptress was a huge disappointment to teenage me. The box cover looked all dramatic, but the game seemed very brown and dull. Though box art not matching the game is a very retro thing.  |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 24, 2022 7:03:59 GMT
I quite liked LotT, but I do know what you mean. Particularly compared to more action orientated point and click adventures.
Future Wars remains one of my favourites.
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Post by rajin on Oct 16, 2022 21:48:34 GMT
I am considering a 360 arcade stick specifically for shoot em ups. Any new or old sticks anyone can advice?
I also want a PVM, but not for the reasons most people obsess over them these days. I need a CRT which can use 50 and 60hz, it just so happens that us europeans do not get a lot of choices in terms of consumer 60hz crt tvs...
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Post by uiruki on Oct 16, 2022 23:06:10 GMT
Look out for the Mad Catz Tournament Edition sticks for 360. All Sanwa, fairly easy to mess about with and relatively common (at least at the time). If you've got an existing stick you want to retrofit for 360 there are plenty of replacement boards out there, Brook are supposed to be pretty good. If it's for shooters you might want to look into swapping out the stick for a Seimitsu, iirc the dimensions are the same so it should be a straight swap but check first.
Most CRT TVs made after the mid to late 90s should be happy enough with 60hz, but you'll likely need to feed it an RGB signal. The crappy TV/video combi set I had in 1997 was happy enough with a 60hz signal when I got my Saturn switched.
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Post by Psiloc on Oct 17, 2022 9:40:44 GMT
Yeah can confirm any random CRT is more likely than not going to be compatible with 60hz.
It’s whether they can support NTSC colour that’s rarer, but like you say you can sidestep that with an RGB SCART cable.
So if the telly has an RGB input you’re basically golden if you’re not incredibly unlucky
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Post by rajin on Oct 17, 2022 12:50:31 GMT
Look out for the Mad Catz Tournament Edition sticks for 360. All Sanwa, fairly easy to mess about with and relatively common (at least at the time). If you've got an existing stick you want to retrofit for 360 there are plenty of replacement boards out there, Brook are supposed to be pretty good. If it's for shooters you might want to look into swapping out the stick for a Seimitsu, iirc the dimensions are the same so it should be a straight swap but check first. Most CRT TVs made after the mid to late 90s should be happy enough with 60hz, but you'll likely need to feed it an RGB signal. The crappy TV/video combi set I had in 1997 was happy enough with a 60hz signal when I got my Saturn switched. Great advice will look for those tv's! Any sony or JVC models coming to mind? And I will look for that stick. Unfortunately I had one of those for the PS3, my ex pushed me to sell it off and I sadly went along with it. Edit: So all I need are RGB cables for my PS2/Saturn? KV-32LS60 is a TV I can pick up for free apperently close by. I do think its a 100hz tv though. |
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Post by uiruki on Oct 17, 2022 14:02:14 GMT
Im not familiar with CRTs other than the ones I had but I’d say that TV is worth a go if you really want one and can handle the weight of it; the manual I found online says it even has NTSC support so you wouldn’t necessarily need RGB for colour. You’ll need it for a better picture though - I remember the Saturn in particular had a really good SCART output and it’d be a shame to lose that. On PS2, remember that the video out port is the same as PS1 so you can use cables from that - I did.
The 100hz thing is just that it double scans for a more stable picture. I saw someone say that it doesn’t do true 240p either but I think for the price that’d be looking a gift horse in the mouth and that wouldn’t affect PS2 for the most part.
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Post by addyb on Oct 17, 2022 14:54:59 GMT
I am considering a 360 arcade stick specifically for shoot em ups. Any new or old sticks anyone can advice? I also want a PVM, but not for the reasons most people obsess over them these days. I need a CRT which can use 50 and 60hz, it just so happens that us europeans do not get a lot of choices in terms of consumer 60hz crt tvs... I bought a mayflash f500 last year and modded it with sanwa parts. Really easy. |
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Post by rajin on Oct 17, 2022 18:02:41 GMT
Im not familiar with CRTs other than the ones I had but I’d say that TV is worth a go if you really want one and can handle the weight of it; the manual I found online says it even has NTSC support so you wouldn’t necessarily need RGB for colour. You’ll need it for a better picture though - I remember the Saturn in particular had a really good SCART output and it’d be a shame to lose that. On PS2, remember that the video out port is the same as PS1 so you can use cables from that - I did. The 100hz thing is just that it double scans for a more stable picture. I saw someone say that it doesn’t do true 240p either but I think for the price that’d be looking a gift horse in the mouth and that wouldn’t affect PS2 for the most part. I will try and pick it up. Unfortunately I need a unwilling brother to lift it since I have muscle issues. Not sure if he can do it by himself. |
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Post by uiruki on Oct 17, 2022 19:21:39 GMT
The main thing it lacks is progressive scan. If I had one, the thing is do is hook up an Xbox for SD video (and the exclusives!)
It should be good for PS2 as progressive scan is definitely a later thing so most games are interlaced anyway.
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Post by rajin on Oct 17, 2022 21:32:21 GMT
I am also looking at a Barto CVM 3637, i might be able to get it at 130 euro.
Other alternative is a Sony PVM 14 inch RGB modded LN4. Anyone know which one is the better option?
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Post by Youthist on Oct 18, 2022 11:19:05 GMT
Right, I am going for a bitcade 2UP cabinet with 32 inch screen, Hyperspin unit and will be upgrading the speakers, and joysticks etc. I need to decide what game / decal to have on the cabinet. They have said it can be anything really but choosing a game to have on it is tricky. Suggestions please. The standard non-game ones are not inspiring so I feel it definitely needs to be artwork from a specific arcade game from the 80s / 90s. non-game specific ones are here - as I say, I think I need something more punchy bitcade.co.uk/collections/2-player-32-inch |
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Post by DJCopa on Oct 18, 2022 11:23:29 GMT
Have a look below for some inspiration: vivid-arcade.co.uk/I got mine from him during lockdown - Not saying get it here, but he has a gallery of images that may help you decide... |
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Post by Youthist on Oct 18, 2022 12:37:25 GMT
😎 - remind me again, did you recommend both Sanwar joysticks and buttons? (I have options on both).
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Post by gamingdave on Oct 18, 2022 14:01:59 GMT
Hyperspin can be a massive headache to setup right. If this is preconfigured for MAME, and that's all you are going to run on it, then it's probably OK. But if you want to add more systems, be prepared for a lot of messing about with it.
I spent ages setting a Hyperspin setup, but never got it how I really wanted. Now using Launchbox and it's so much more straightforward.
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Post by BeetrootBertie on Oct 18, 2022 18:30:06 GMT
I'm not a fanboy of the game really but I I'd like a Gradius one if I was in your situation. That cover artwork is lovely and it'd be great to see it plastered on the sides.
The Artcade book is nice look at arcade decals if you feel like taking your time to choose.
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Post by Psiloc on Oct 19, 2022 9:56:31 GMT
Arcade machines are the pinnacle of the "constantly tweak, never actually play" conundrum.
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Post by rajin on Oct 20, 2022 23:05:56 GMT
Based on some advice here and my brain twlling me old PVMs not being worth the hassle,I settled on a 25 euro 15 min away Sony trinitron pick up.
The TV is the KV-25FX30B. The TV is 21 years old so decent for a CRT, and only used for 4 years. For the price, size, convenience I dont think it will get any better then this.
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Post by Lizard on Oct 21, 2022 22:21:05 GMT
Right, I am going for a bitcade 2UP cabinet with 32 inch screen, Hyperspin unit and will be upgrading the speakers, and joysticks etc. I need to decide what game / decal to have on the cabinet. They have said it can be anything really but choosing a game to have on it is tricky. Suggestions please. The standard non-game ones are not inspiring so I feel it definitely needs to be artwork from a specific arcade game from the 80s / 90s. non-game specific ones are here - as I say, I think I need something more punchy bitcade.co.uk/collections/2-player-32-inchSurely Robocop or Terminator. Maybe Tron. |
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Post by Youthist on Oct 21, 2022 23:09:01 GMT
Thinking Star Wars so far. But they are decent options.
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Post by 😎 on Oct 22, 2022 0:17:55 GMT
😎 - remind me again, did you recommend both Sanwar joysticks and buttons? (I have options on both). Yeah, Sanwa all the way imo. JLF if you have a choice on sticks. |
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Post by addyb on Oct 22, 2022 10:30:37 GMT
😎 - remind me again, did you recommend both Sanwar joysticks and buttons? (I have options on both). These are what I've bought a few times. Sanwa JLF-TP-8YT Ball Top Joystick Sanwa OBSF-30 Snap In Arcade Button |
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Post by rajin on Oct 22, 2022 11:28:20 GMT
I turned on the TV and it works flawlessly. Really happy with the quality. Maybe the colours are slightly reduced but I have only tested with composite cables.
Honestly its shocking how much better PS1 games look on a CRT even in composite. For anyone on the fence, I definitely would recommend going for a cheap pickup somewhere and a 25 inch size. Once my scart cables come in I am sure I will be blown away.
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Post by tonyferrino on Oct 23, 2022 16:10:44 GMT
Does anyone have any recommendations of where to find out about modern retro games, things like Cathedral or Alwa's Awakening which are coming out on Evercade soon (and I believe were developed for c64 first)?
I've got an Itch.io account but it's pretty hard to filter for quality. Are there any websites that focus on newly developed "retro" games?
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Post by rajin on Oct 25, 2022 13:17:33 GMT
Look out for the Mad Catz Tournament Edition sticks for 360. All Sanwa, fairly easy to mess about with and relatively common (at least at the time). If you've got an existing stick you want to retrofit for 360 there are plenty of replacement boards out there, Brook are supposed to be pretty good. If it's for shooters you might want to look into swapping out the stick for a Seimitsu, iirc the dimensions are the same so it should be a straight swap but check first. Most CRT TVs made after the mid to late 90s should be happy enough with 60hz, but you'll likely need to feed it an RGB signal. The crappy TV/video combi set I had in 1997 was happy enough with a 60hz signal when I got my Saturn switched. Unfortunately the TE/TE2 sticks are becoming rather expensive or are in such sorry state they are not worth 120-150 euro. Anyone who has experience with the universal arcade sticks such as Mayflash? The idea that it works on most of my consoles is very appealing. I also could buy a modded Real Hori 2 stick with a Akishop 360 trimod and sanwa parts. Probably can bring the price down to 50ish euros but obvioisly it will be used. The internet is a bit vague about how great of a board it is and its ps4 support has a 8 min limiter. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 25, 2022 14:23:33 GMT
TE sticks were always expensive, TBF. Hori has always been my go-to, even back from PS2 to now. Real Arcade Pros are well built, and many back in the PS2 or 360 days came with Sanwa parts already. There's also sticks with Hori-built parts. Back in those days, the Hori joysticks and buttons were cheap and stiff, but beginning with the PS4 generation, quality and feel has improved immensely.
Also, if you're building or modding a prexisting stick, consider Seimitsu as an alternative to Sanwa. Especially if your biggest use case is shoot em ups. I wouldn't necessarily say one brand is better than the other for any particular genre, but if "arcade feel" is what you're going for, Sanwas are mostly used in fighting game cabinets, and Seimitsus are mostly used in shooter cabinets.
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Post by rajin on Oct 25, 2022 16:08:36 GMT
TE sticks were always expensive, TBF. Hori has always been my go-to, even back from PS2 to now. Real Arcade Pros are well built, and many back in the PS2 or 360 days came with Sanwa parts already. There's also sticks with Hori-built parts. Back in those days, the Hori joysticks and buttons were cheap and stiff, but beginning with the PS4 generation, quality and feel has improved immensely. Also, if you're building or modding a prexisting stick, consider Seimitsu as an alternative to Sanwa. Especially if your biggest use case is shoot em ups. I wouldn't necessarily say one brand is better than the other for any particular genre, but if "arcade feel" is what you're going for, Sanwas are mostly used in fighting game cabinets, and Seimitsus are mostly used in shooter cabinets. Basicly I can only import TE sticks for the 360, PS3 versions are abundant and I might consider snapping one up. Still, my main consoles for shoot em ups are PS2, Saturn, Xbox 360 and PS4. Out of all these I already have a PS2 stick I am satisfied with, but still need one for xbox and saturn and give less urgency to PS4. The issue with being in the netherlands is nothing is here, all requires import and usually large shipping fees. The mayflash f500 with Seimitsu parts might solve most of the demands outside of the saturn. It is still 170 euro ish to get all the parts. The hori stick would be 65ish euro with full sanwa parts. Maybe I just need to wait till I have money after January and go all out. |
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Post by rajin on Oct 31, 2022 11:51:55 GMT
So I bought a PS3 SF4 TE for 50 euro. U fortunately the guy replaced the board with a alibaba "zero" delay board adding around 1.5 frames of lag. I would like to replace the board with a universal brook board and Seimitsu buttons and joystick. Does anyone have experience with modding a board in? I have read that the main issue is that the brook board has 5 manual switches for devices and the TE only has 2 buttons on the side.
Alternatively, I get a PS4 board with a external xbox converter, it would cost the same.
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Post by Youthist on Nov 1, 2022 11:45:54 GMT
Ok I ordered 27inch screen, 2UP cabinet, Star Wars artwork, Sanwa Joysticks and buttons, 2 light guns with recoil, track ball etc. I might need help downstream from the experts on how to add new ROMs to my hyperspin kit, but that can wait.
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Post by mikew1985 on Nov 9, 2022 19:40:22 GMT
Hi Folks, posted in it's own thread earlier as I couldn't find the retro thread:
"Doesn't seem to be a retro thread or Analogue specific thread anywhere so creating a new thread.
I pre ordered a pocket last year and it's arriving on Tuesday.
It looks like a seriously cool piece of kit but I've come to realise I likley will not use this enough so I'm contemplating selling it.
They're jailbroken now, so ROMs can be played from the SD card too.
If anyone on here has any interest, let me know."
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