Street Fighter 6

I can DO drive rush, but I can't make it useful

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Thanks for this. Will give that a go.

I should probably just practice them more in training. Normally seem to have it nailed most the time there though, but immediately no longer can do it in an actual match.

Played a few more ranked games as JP. I'm sure the modern control players aren't "good" at my rookie level, but they were the ones I struggled against the most. Classic controls I was going into matches feeling pretty confident (albeit mostly because players at this level don't seem to know JP's moves and struggle to deal with them), but modern players were just relentless. I managed to best one or two of them, but for the most part the onslaught of specials and supers pulled out at speeds that no one at this level would be able to execute was frustrating.

Having said that, it does force me to be a little more defensive and keep an eye out for the openings. It is probably serving me well, whilst I expect those that I'm fighting will reach a plateau much quicker.

It is funny. There is a whole strata of modern players who have the special move button on autofire and know one gimmick. Like every modern chun will ex-hanzansho into ex-upkicks. At some point everything is going to stop working for them and they are going to have to learn to just block.

I disagree that missing something like a DP makes you determined to hit one. I think the issue is more like that Modern controls allow you to make sure you're hitting out the move you want. The inputs are very generous that you can walk forward and then do a QCF expecting a fireball but get DP and then punished. There are positives and negatives on both sides. Overall I think Modern controls aren't great in the long run as a lot of people I've come across just spam the moves and yeah it gets you a fair amount of times but after a while you can read their game quite well and see what they're trying to land.

As someone who doesn't play many fighting games, I do think there is scope to make one that doesn't have the barrier of entry of needing to learn how to execute the moves you want to do. I'm not sure about combining the two different controls in the same game is a great idea though.

I would think at high level play the modern controls are worthless, as the restrictions have more of an impact. However, I would also think that up to maybe a mid-tier level, the modern controls will likely win more often than not with two evenly matched players (would be interesting to see someone experiment with that, actually).

I like these kinds of discussions btw and it's nice to be in a thread where most if not all people in this thread are supportive and not git gud types.

I honestly believe that modern would level up most players once you get used it it. I would definitely move up a bracket from OK to mediocre.

But Evo is the top 1% of the top 1%, so mitigating those execution errors probably wouldnt be an issue anymore and you'd just be losing out on damage output and optimal, situational combos.

I dunno. Modern seems really good. If I had started from zero, I dont know why you would switch unless you got really good.

FYI Shuto (very good young Japanese player) uses Modern with Marisa and I think he was highest ranked in the world for a while. And Tokido has been using Modern Luke in recent videos. Anyone who says Modern is for scrubs is, themselves, a scrub.

Most Modern players I’ve played are “excitable” I suppose. I haven’t played anyone decent on Modern yet, but it’s just a matter of time.

At the end of the day execution is probably only 10% of the game, so it’s not like it’s a magical win button.

I don’t think we’ve played, no. So maybe you’ll be the first.??

I may be a scrub but I disagree with this a fair bit.

I can hold my own with the Drive mechanics, spacing, pokes, anti-airs and the like but the amount of damage I leave on the table from not being able to convert initial hits into decent combos is my biggest weakness.

Maybe I need to use modern controls myself!

I meant specifically the execution of special moves - which is something Modern helps with! I don’t think the assisted combos in Modern do any of those fancy drive rush shenanigans from a series of single button presses.

Unfortunately this a fair bit of the FGC if I'm being honest, with a lot of small penis energy. It's like when SF4 came out and people who weren't into Fighting games came onto the scene because of the game and a lot of the old guard didn't like it. For example I remember a ton of people were incensed that Luffy won Evo with a pad.