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Post by スコットランド on Mar 21, 2022 13:59:09 GMT
Leftovers and Watchmen were utterly amazing but I haven't really seen his films.
As good a chance as any of it not being shit.
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Post by beastmaster on Mar 21, 2022 14:09:01 GMT
Meh! Doesn't mean a damn thing until cameras start rolling. Kevin Feige and Taika Waititi are supposed to have Star Wars films in development. They might announce something at Celebration in May.
It wouldn't surprise me if they got Daisy Ridley back to play Ray again in some sort of spin-off.
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Post by Lukus on Mar 21, 2022 14:15:05 GMT
Fucking hope not.
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Post by britesparc on Mar 21, 2022 14:44:46 GMT
Things I want to see (that'll probably never happen):
- animated series showing Luke building his temple and training the Jedi, perhaps before he starts training Ben Solo
- some form of official continuation - comics, animation, live-action - showing what happens after Rise of Skywalker
- live-action series following Dooku when was still a Jedi with young Qui-Gon as his padawan
- anything whatsoever to do with Kyle Katarn
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Post by スコットランド on Mar 21, 2022 14:47:06 GMT
I'd like some new films that are reasonably written and aren't shit.
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Post by aubergine on Mar 22, 2022 1:57:30 GMT
I’d honestly have flushed Lindelhof down a toilet if life had presented an opportunity, yet his Watchman was brilliant. So I can only assume the other projects poisoned by his involvement were something he deliberately fucked up due to being an evil person, rather than a desperately incompetent one. Hopefully he’s turned away from evil and will only make good things now.
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Post by aubergine on Mar 22, 2022 2:00:24 GMT
I mean you have to wonder. Ridley Scott got him to fuck about with the alien prequel script until it made no sense. Was that Lindelhof’s fault, or Scott’s? I’m leaving toward Scott on that one occasion, but he clearly hired someone who was telling him what he wanted to hear.
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Post by Bill in the rain on Mar 22, 2022 2:03:56 GMT
Some things people do turn out good. Some not so good.
I'm not sure past performance is always a guarantee of future returns.
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Post by Lizard on Mar 22, 2022 5:41:02 GMT
TBF the sequel trilogy was a bit fucked from the start: thirty years after the plucky Rebels defeated the evil Empire and their planet destroying super weapon, we find ourselves with the plucky Resistance, rooting for them in their fight against the evil First Order and their planet-destroying super weapon. Great.
I suppose it was naive to expect Disney to do anything exciting and new with a cash cow like Star Wars. Still TFA is best of the three by a long, long way.
TLJ is rubbish, but not for fanboy reasons, it's just dull. A slow-motion chase and a trip to space Vegas? Frankly it feels like a spin off aside from the Luke and Rey stuff. I accept that it subverts expectations, but you need to back that up with a good film. I'm not sure that it works as the middle film, although we'll never know because it was all dropped.
ROS is less boring, but is incredibly stupid.
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Post by khanivor on Mar 22, 2022 14:50:16 GMT
If Jenkins ever gets to make and release Rogue Squadron it’ll be the last SW movie for a decade.
She can’t direct an action movie worth a shit. If they continue the quality trajectory, WW3 is getting switched off before the first scene is over.
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Post by Snake on Mar 22, 2022 16:38:51 GMT
Sorry, had no idea that Lindeloff actually made something decent (haven't seen Watchmen)...I was indeed going just by his film collaborations...
I vaguely remember an article saying he was a good writer for set pieces and twists but not so much having the scenes be believable or the twists make sense or be explainable...
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Post by Bill in the rain on Mar 23, 2022 1:12:09 GMT
If Jenkins ever gets to make and release Rogue Squadron it’ll be the last SW movie for a decade. Rogue Squadron doesn't sound like the kind of movie where the director is going to matter that much, but I like her action scenes. That said, the action is usually shot by the second-unit / action director, isn't it? |
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Post by khanivor on Mar 23, 2022 3:17:18 GMT
Wonder Woman was hilariously awful. Like, made a Troma film seem like high art
WW84 somehow managed to be multiple orders of magnitude worse.
The tone is set by the director. WW was considered a successful film. Jenkins had more creative control over the sequel. Which was consequently far worse.
I fear her Rogue Squadron would have made Yippee! Now this is pod racing!’ Seem superior to ‘the horror, the horror’ or ‘gentlemen, there’s no fighting in the war room’
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Post by spacein_vader on Mar 23, 2022 7:45:03 GMT
Wonder Woman was hilariously awful. Like, made a Troma film seem like high art WW84 somehow managed to be multiple orders of magnitude worse. The tone is set by the director. WW was considered a successful film. Jenkins had more creative control over the sequel. Which was consequently far worse. I fear her Rogue Squadron would have made Yippee! Now this is pod racing!’ Seem superior to ‘the horror, the horror’ or ‘gentlemen, there’s no fighting in the war room’ WW was pretty good as superhero movies go and as you say it was successful. I haven't seen WW84 but given how no director since Lucas has had any kind of major control over a SW film (they're all designed by committee to some degree,) I wouldn't worry all that much who is directing. |
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Post by aubergine on Mar 24, 2022 7:06:04 GMT
Sorry, had no idea that Lindeloff actually made something decent (haven't seen Watchmen)...I was indeed going just by his film collaborations... I vaguely remember an article saying he was a good writer for set pieces and twists but not so much having the scenes be believable or the twists make sense or be explainable... Having seen Watchmen, I am left to wonder if he took the criticisms of Lost, Prometheus and Star Trek Into Darkness to heart, and decided to stop writing things that were a bunch of meaningless stupid fucking bullshit. |
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Post by rhaegyr on Mar 24, 2022 10:55:09 GMT
Lost was a show of peaks and valleys. Give me something like that any day over a mere, consistently 'good' show that explains everything and wraps up nicely.
Absolutely loved it at the time and have a huge fondness for the memory of it.
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Post by spacein_vader on Mar 24, 2022 13:55:34 GMT
Lost was a show of peaks and valleys. Give me something like that any day over a mere, consistently 'good' show that explains everything and wraps up nicely. Absolutely loved it at the time and have a huge fondness for the memory of it. Lost was an exercise of giving creative writers free reign to make as many mysteries as they wanted without any thought given to how they were going tk resolve them. Glad I baled out at the end of series 1 when a mystery was solved only to find a bigger mystery. Fuck off. |
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Post by rhaegyr on Mar 24, 2022 14:06:02 GMT
You missed some fantastic storylines, reveals and character development. To each their own though.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 24, 2022 15:33:02 GMT
I think season 3 is when I tapped out. When Kate and Sawyer (am I getting the names right?) were locked in a cage for half a season. They finally escape then the season takes one of those corny mid-season breaks, which I think they might have been first to do this? But anyway, having it split right when something was about to happen pissed me off and I never returned.
Season 2 was good, if I remember correctly.
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Post by Bill in the rain on Mar 25, 2022 8:01:08 GMT
I gave up after about 5 episodes because the flashback structure was really annoying me.
With hindsight, it sounds like basically the flashbacks *were* the show... but I was wanting to find out what was going on with the island, and it felt like they were just intentionally avoiding making any progress on that.
It's a relatively common show structure these days... have each episode focus on a particular character and fill in their backstory or motivation. Euphoria did it in season 1, and I still loved that show.
But it's still a structure that kinda annoys me.
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Post by lexw on Apr 1, 2022 15:17:47 GMT
I mean you have to wonder. Ridley Scott got him to fuck about with the alien prequel script until it made no sense. Was that Lindelhof’s fault, or Scott’s? I’m leaving toward Scott on that one occasion, but he clearly hired someone who was telling him what he wanted to hear. I mean, I think there's an open question as to whether he even made it "not make sense" - by all accounts earlier versions were drivel too. As for "telling him what he wanted to hear", well, I mean Scott had fired what, three? Four? More? Scriptwriters at that point. Possibly Lindlehof just wanted to get paid and leave and was like "Ok whatever man". I can't really fault him for that, especially as Scott thought was he was producing was transcendently brilliant. Having seen Watchmen, I am left to wonder if he took the criticisms of Lost, Prometheus and Star Trek Into Darkness to heart, and decided to stop writing things that were a bunch of meaningless stupid fucking bullshit. I mean, there's another more obvious explanation which is that in all those he was working as part of a writer's room rather than being the showrunner and getting to decide the direction of the whole thing. With The Leftovers, which was extremely well-written, Lindlehof was also the showrunner. Don't get me wrong, pre-Leftovers, I would absolutely have agreed with you! If I could have pressed a button and fired Lindlehof from doing any TV/movie writing ever again, I would have! Yet the best evidence we have is that when he's a showrunner he does an actually great job. Which suggests a lot of the shittiness may be down to other people involved. Orci, Kurtzman and Abrams seem particularly likely suspects. Kurtzman has literally never written a good movie and only very rarely good TV. Orci it's the exact same and he worked on most of the same things. Lindlehof was on many of the same bad things, but unlike them, with The Leftovers and Watchmen where Orci and Kurtzman were not present, and he was showrunner, they turned out good. So keep him the hell away from Orci/Kurtzman. |
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Post by lexw on Apr 1, 2022 15:25:28 GMT
Isn't there an Old Republic film in the works too? Nope. It all fell apart. Laeta Kaelogridis wrote it, but then Disney went "nah" again, after a lot of back and forth. They also quietly ditched the trilogy for the GoT dudes. But weirdly re-floated the idea of Rian Johnson doing a trilogy last year after seemingly doing the same. However a somewhat similar project referred to as The High Republic is going ahead, and this isn't rumour it's official: comicbook.com/tv-shows/news/star-wars-the-acolyte-tv-show-spoilers-disney-plus-lesyle-headland/The High Republic is basically just like Star Wars 100+ years before the original trilogy, but functionally it's very similar to The Old Republic, except no Sith (so far). |
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Post by britesparc on Apr 2, 2022 7:43:04 GMT
Weirdly, the premiere of this has been pushed back two days to Friday 27th, sadly meaning it's no longer on the SW anniversary.
We'll be getting the first two episodes at once, though.
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Post by Whizzo on May 4, 2022 13:06:51 GMT
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Post by nexus6 on May 4, 2022 13:11:04 GMT
I've just cum
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Post by Blue_Mike on May 5, 2022 22:45:02 GMT
Let us celebrate Ewan McGregors' greatest cinematic role to date.
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Post by dfunked on May 5, 2022 23:09:50 GMT
I don't know why I just liked that post. I had to Google if this was even an actual thing, and now I feel obligated to watch it...
FFS Mike!
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Post by Blue_Mike on May 6, 2022 1:18:25 GMT
I don't know why I just liked that post. I had to Google if this was even an actual thing, and now I feel obligated to watch it... FFS Mike! starship_troopers_i'm_doing_my_part.gif
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Post by Red_Bool on May 9, 2022 9:00:48 GMT
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Post by deebs on May 27, 2022 7:24:51 GMT
It's not bad, but it has its ups and downs. Firstly, lots of original prequel cast in it at around or close enough to the right age for the setting, which is good. And Flea always makes a fantastic villain, if under-utilized to fuck here. McGregor did a fine job as a brow-beaten older man who has practically given up and sunk into some mind-numbing routine.
Downsides were really the little getaway chase scenes with the girl, who can't run faster than a mildly brisk walking pace, and yet seems to outrun grown men with ease. It gets very silly, very quickly, and they do it twice at separate times just to annoy you. It really is the lowest point of the two episodes that are up as it just makes you sigh and wonder wtf they were trying to pull here. Very Ewok vs Stormtrooperesque.
But all in all, it was okay. I can see where it's headed, and it's seemingly a far cry from the action-packed outings we've had till now. A little more thoughtful in general. |
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