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Post by Fake_Blood on Mar 16, 2022 22:41:28 GMT
I just got a youtube ad explaining that importing japanese food is totally okay again and mostly doesn’t contain radioactive nucliotides anymore. This got me wondering what weird ads other people get. I also get one for a jesus movie that has super high production value.
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Post by Dougs on Mar 25, 2022 14:02:33 GMT
Bah, mine stopped working. Pi wouldn't boot at all - am reinstalling to see if it's the Pi itself or a corrupt install or something.
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Post by spacein_vader on Mar 25, 2022 15:13:38 GMT
Bah, mine stopped working. Pi wouldn't boot at all - am reinstalling to see if it's the Pi itself or a corrupt install or something. If a Pi stops working 99/100 it's a corrupt SD card. They really aren't designed to be a boot drive and you can see why the Pi compute modules (same CPU but with SATA support,) are so popular with industry. |
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Post by dominalien on Mar 25, 2022 15:46:07 GMT
Yeah, I've given up on pis as 24/7 server-type machines. Give me a regular oldish desktop with a few cores that takes 50W of power any day over that.
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Post by Dougs on Mar 25, 2022 17:05:46 GMT
I have a vague feeling it might have been a dodgy HDMI out socket and it was booting all along. But am giving it a reinstall and will see how I go. The SD card is yonks old though, so could be
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Post by Danno on Apr 1, 2022 17:23:42 GMT
I meed to sort something out, YT ads are getting fucking ridiculous.
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Post by jimnastics on Apr 1, 2022 17:51:46 GMT
Vanced getting nerfed is a nightmare, it's back to core Youtube app on mobile / tablet devices for me  There is an alternative to Vanced for mobile (I forget the name) but it doesn't let you login to an account, so kinda useless for me. SmarTubeNext is awesome for firetv sticks etc. and uBlock Origin is flawless at blocking ads in browsers, so at least we still have those. |
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Post by harrypalmer on Apr 1, 2022 18:07:44 GMT
I meed to sort something out, YT ads are getting fucking ridiculous. Yep. YouTube ads have definitely got worse. |
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Post by Danno on Apr 1, 2022 18:31:09 GMT
I meed to sort something out, YT ads are getting fucking ridiculous. Yep. YouTube ads have definitely got worse. Was watching a rugby match and ads were every 7mins for the first hour. Absurd |
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Post by Dougs on Apr 1, 2022 18:52:47 GMT
I have a vague feeling it might have been a dodgy HDMI out socket and it was booting all along. But am giving it a reinstall and will see how I go. The SD card is yonks old though, so could be Turns out it was a nerfed SD card and a shit PSU. Now all sorted. Just a shame it doesn't work on YT. |
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Post by muddyfunster on Apr 6, 2022 10:54:31 GMT
Just bought an old NUC on ebay to play with home assistant and run adguard. Had planned on waiting for a Pi 4B, but saw a Celeron J3455 CPU NUC for about the price of a pi 4B 8GB + case. If I've interpreted benchmarks correctly, it should be more powerful for future-proofing whilst still only drawing 10W TDP. Was a bit worried about fan noise (will likely go in a cupboard in the bedroom, but I've read this can be configured in the bios to turn off below a temp threshold).
I've read mixed things about how easy the setup is on a NUC. Some seem to suggest it's a piece of cake, others appear to have a bad time. I'm fairly tech-savvy and comfortable editing ini files, but not a developer so I guess I might struggle. Anyone here got experience of installing Hassio on a NUC?
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Post by dfunked on Apr 6, 2022 11:06:03 GMT
If I was doing it on an NUC I'd probably just stick Ubuntu server on it and use docker for the Hasio container or KVM for the VM. Fun learning experience without the GUI to fall back on!
I guess there's also the option of running the full OS version of Hasio and then also installing Adguard on that, but that could get messy and you might risk losing Adguard with OS updates.
TDP is usually related to the CPU only, so power draw of the entire NUC will probably be a bit higher than a Pi (but still low in the grand scheme of things)
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Post by dominalien on Apr 6, 2022 13:12:05 GMT
The 4 cores of the celeron should be enough to install Proxmox and import the KVM image there. I haven’t done this myself (importing KVM images), but apparently it’s trivial. Proxmox is rad and comes with a nice web interface if something like pure text Ubuntu server is too much. You can then use the same machine for other containers/VMs like Pi-hole.
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Post by Psiloc on Apr 6, 2022 13:36:16 GMT
Jesus fucking christ can somebody hurry up figure out how to make this work with YT.
I have a habit of falling asleep to long form podcast type videos and the ads are ridiculous now. It's relentless. There's also obviously a sliding scale of cost to advertisers and therefore the middle of the night is full of weird fucking shit. Last night I was woken up by some weird Sri Lankan guru sort yelling at me about...something. Literally not even sure what language he was speaking. Even had a low quality webcam pointed in the wrong direction.
This level of ad wankery used to be reserved for dodgy pirate websites. They've even booby trapped the seek bar.
I'm sorry but YT content is not worth £12 a month and this method of trying to persuade me can fuck off
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Post by spacein_vader on Apr 6, 2022 16:12:31 GMT
If I was doing it on an NUC I'd probably just stick Ubuntu server on it and use docker for the Hasio container or KVM for the VM. Fun learning experience without the GUI to fall back on! I guess there's also the option of running the full OS version of Hasio and then also installing Adguard on that, but that could get messy and you might risk losing Adguard with OS updates. TDP is usually related to the CPU only, so power draw of the entire NUC will probably be a bit higher than a Pi (but still low in the grand scheme of things) This. Docker is the way forward for this kind of stuff. |
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Post by muddyfunster on Apr 7, 2022 9:59:13 GMT
Thanks for suggestions/advice. I'm in two minds about whether to do it as a VM. The only things I really want to do on this device is run Home Assistant and block Ads and from what I've read/watched on youtube the Aguard plugin for Hassio works perfectly. What mess are you envisaging with this setup?
I do appreciate that if wanted to do a lot more with the NUC like run a Plex server or True Nas then VMs would make sense. I guess my lack of imagination may be from a place of ignorance about what the possibilities are but I'm yet to read of other services/apps of interest. What do people consider 'essential'?
My job involves supplying technical services (though I'm more hardware focused than software) so my instinct is to adopt the KISS principle, at least to start with, and take stock before adding further complexity. If running VMs actually simplifies and adds resilience then fair enough.
As a side note, does anyone know of a cheap home UPS for this sort of thing?
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Post by spacein_vader on Apr 7, 2022 10:39:18 GMT
Thanks for suggestions/advice. I'm in two minds about whether to do it as a VM. The only things I really want to do on this device is run Home Assistant and block Ads and from what I've read/watched on youtube the Aguard plugin for Hassio works perfectly. What mess are you envisaging with this setup? I do appreciate that if wanted to do a lot more with the NUC like run a Plex server or True Nas then VMs would make sense. I guess my lack of imagination may be from a place of ignorance about what the possibilities are but I'm yet to read of other services/apps of interest. What do people consider 'essential'? My job involves supplying technical services (though I'm more hardware focused than software) so my instinct is to adopt the KISS principle, at least to start with, and take stock before adding further complexity. If running VMs actually simplifies and adds resilience then fair enough. As a side note, does anyone know of a cheap home UPS for this sort of thing? If you know with absolute certainty you'll never want to do more than Hassio and ad-blocking then you're correct, it's simpler to do it your way. What Docker gives you is simplicity of expandability. If you decide to do some sort of home automation that Hassio doesn't support but some other software does you just fire up a docker image for it. You may then play around with that software and decide you don't want to use it after all. Just remove the container. You could also make an argument for docker being easier to harden as you can put up a reverse proxy instance to funnel all services through one port if you want remote access. Though you can do that without docker too, it's just a bit trickier to set up. |
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Post by dominalien on Apr 7, 2022 12:07:35 GMT
At home, I use my server as a router (regularly updated, as opposed to the actual router that gets no updates at all == more security), Nextcloud server, pi-hole.
At work, all that plus a bunch of other services, like Zoneminder for security cameras.
A 4-core Celeron will be fine for the former, I have more cores/RAM at work for all I need to do.
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Post by muddyfunster on Apr 7, 2022 14:03:17 GMT
At home, I use my server as a router (regularly updated, as opposed to the actual router that gets no updates at all == more security), Nextcloud server, pi-hole. At work, all that plus a bunch of other services, like Zoneminder for security cameras. A 4-core Celeron will be fine for the former, I have more cores/RAM at work for all I need to do. Interesting... I currently have a BT Smart Hub 2 as the router with wifi disabled and a Tenda Nova 12 meshwifi system covering the different floors of the house and office in the garden. I am aware that the BT hub may have to be replaced to get Adguard working. If there is a way to avoid buying further hardware that is worth considering. What application do you use? |
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Post by dominalien on Apr 7, 2022 14:53:31 GMT
I use ipfire, I know pfsense is a similar solution. Very obviously, you need a device with 2 ethernet ports.
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Post by Dougs on Apr 7, 2022 15:19:10 GMT
My WiFi kept dropping out, same thing happened when I had the Pi as a Kodi box so I bought a new nano adapter as I assumed the one I had was shite. Very confused that I couldn't just plug it in (other one I could, what gives?). All sorted after a quick Google and copy of lines of code I don't understand.
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Post by dominalien on Apr 7, 2022 19:18:00 GMT
Missing driver or firmware?
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Post by Dougs on Apr 7, 2022 19:19:16 GMT
Fucked if I know, but it works now, just not plug and play. All very odd.
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Post by dominalien on Apr 7, 2022 19:50:43 GMT
Oh, it was a rhetorical question, just taking wild guesses at the reason it didn’t work automatically. Cool it’s sorted now.
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Post by muddyfunster on Apr 8, 2022 8:55:34 GMT
The 4 cores of the celeron should be enough to install Proxmox and import the KVM image there. I haven’t done this myself (importing KVM images), but apparently it’s trivial. Proxmox is rad and comes with a nice web interface if something like pure text Ubuntu server is too much. You can then use the same machine for other containers/VMs like Pi-hole. Having read more, I'm now leaning towards your Proxmox suggestion, thanks. Main reason being the benefits of HassOS are retained (can still use addons if I can want inside the VM) but with easier updates and backups, plus the potential to add any VMs I want down the line. There's also a significant added benefit of using as a training exercise for professional development as it's definitely an area I need to learn more about anyway. One issue I may have is my NUC only has 32GB eMMC. Of course I can add extra but I had intended to wait until I actually needed more. I have got some old laptop 2.5" HDDs I can add though. I've got a 160GB and 500GB in a drawer. I also gather SSDs in particular cause interference for Zigbee so perhaps adding HDD instead is no bad thing whilst I don't have anything hugely read/write intensive. Any advice on the best way to configure the storage? Presume Proxmox installed to the eMMC is best. Beyond that I'm not really sure if 32GB is sufficient to also hold the VMs or if I will quickly need more. What happens if you need to add storage to a VM? Can you retrospectively adjust or is it more like partitions whereby you have to delete the entire volume to resize? Pretty new to VMs as you can tell only ever setup one previously when experimenting with Dante Domain Manager at work and that was years ago. |
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Post by dfunked on Apr 8, 2022 9:03:04 GMT
32GB is definitely cutting it fine. Would be OK for a low footprint OS and Docker (team Docker here too!), but if you're going to be running an entire OS as a VM it'll be extremely tight.
I'd have main OS on the eMMC and virtual machine VHDs on the bigger disk.
I'm not familiar with proxmox itself (just the underlying KVM), but yeah, you create a VHD with a specific size. If you need to increase it you increase the max size of that VHD, then within the VMs OS increase it as you normally would.
The SSD interference thing is news to me, if anything I'd expect a spinning magnetic disk to be more likely to cause interference, but haven't looked into it.
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Post by muddyfunster on Apr 8, 2022 9:36:36 GMT
32GB is definitely cutting it fine. Would be OK for a low footprint OS and Docker (team Docker here too!), but if you're going to be running an entire OS as a VM it'll be extremely tight. I'd have main OS on the eMMC and virtual machine VHDs on the bigger disk. I'm not familiar with proxmox itself (just the underlying KVM), but yeah, you create a VHD with a specific size. If you need to increase it you increase the max size of that VHD, then within the VMs OS increase it as you normally would. The SSD interference thing is news to me, if anything I'd expect a spinning magnetic disk to be more likely to cause interference, but haven't looked into it. Thanks, good input, sounds like putting VMs on the HDD might be better then. Yeah the interference thing is a bit anecdotal but widespread enough to be a genuine electromagnetic interference issue of some sort. Best to have your Zigbee device on a USB extension apparently to get it away from the host machine. There seems to be confusion as to whether it's SSD technology itself or USB 3.0 controllers causing the interference or both (some say they see problems with M.2 SSD proximity as well). I'm also not sure if people are using SSD as shorthand for 'storage' or if HDD is actually materially different in terms of causing interference. |
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Post by spacein_vader on Apr 8, 2022 10:10:04 GMT
32gb is very tight. Depending on what your docker images are doing a HDD might be fine depending on their disk usage.
My main home server is on HDDs with various docker instances around home automation and media collection/playback. It has a small 60gb SSD that the main media software (Jellyfin, which uses ffmpeg) uses as a swap drive for transcoding. None of the other instances would benefit from an ssd.
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Post by muddyfunster on Apr 8, 2022 10:24:36 GMT
32gb is very tight. Depending on what your docker images are doing a HDD might be fine depending on their disk usage. My main home server is on HDDs with various docker instances around home automation and media collection/playback. It has a small 60gb SSD that the main media software (Jellyfin, which uses ffmpeg) uses as a swap drive for transcoding. None of the other instances would benefit from an ssd. Thanks, so are you saying 32GB is too tight to install Proxmox at all? I'm now thinking Proxmox to the eMMC, then all the actual VMs on HDD and see how it performs. I guess if it's sluggish , I can just replace with a cheap 2.5" SSD down the line. Initially I won't have any video on the VMs (got a Shield TV Pro that makes more sense as a media server). However I have got a ring doorbell that would be nice to get the video running locally if such a thing is even possible. To clarify I wouldn't be using Docker in the proposed setup (although if I've understood correctly HassIO is basically Core+Supervisor in Docker containers anyway). The fact that an HDD adds to the power draw at idle does niggle me slightly when I'm trying to keep everything efficient. |
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Post by dominalien on Apr 8, 2022 11:05:08 GMT
32 gb for Proxmox is fine, at home I have it in a 16gb sata flash drive. The 32 gb will let you create a Linux VM or even two (the default drive size is 8GB IIRC and that’s more than enough for eg Ubuntu server), but that’s it.
It uses ZFS LVMs so adding storage is pretty straightforward.
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There is an alternative to Vanced for mobile (I forget the name) but it doesn't let you login to an account, so kinda useless for me.
