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Post by Danno on Jul 28, 2022 11:03:06 GMT
Careful, you'll summon William
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Post by Dougs on Jul 28, 2022 11:08:17 GMT
I was reading about how Ofgem have basically wanked this all up for ages and are a joke now. Having worked in the civil service for ten years, it doesn't surprise me. Yup, obvious it's all in the regulation. |
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Post by anephric on Jul 28, 2022 11:49:13 GMT
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Post by Dougs on Jul 28, 2022 12:02:12 GMT
I was an Avro customer. The absolute fuckers
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Post by technoish on Jul 28, 2022 12:56:38 GMT
With an old background in financial services and system backstops, I find it hard to parse that an energy market framework that requires all users to shoulder cost of failure of individual firms doesn't regulate those firms in the first place. That is awful.
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Post by GigaChad Sigma. on Jul 28, 2022 13:00:28 GMT
That's beyond parody.
The world is awash with chancers out to make a cash without any clue. Oops bankruptcy. Sorry lol not sorry.
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Post by dogbot on Jul 28, 2022 13:02:19 GMT
How are they not being prosecuted for fraud or embezzlement?
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Post by technoish on Jul 28, 2022 13:08:05 GMT
It's not really fraud, they provided a service and went bust. They didn't hedge for the energy prices, so when energy prices went up they couldn't afford it any more, and the business went under.
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Post by dogbot on Jul 28, 2022 13:12:13 GMT
They took payment in advance from their customers for a service they couldn't provide whilst shuttling the money into other "businesses" (ie, their pockets).
If they'd simply just gone bankrupt, I might agree, but they literally took the money for themselves.
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Post by anephric on Jul 28, 2022 14:11:32 GMT
It's legal. Blame Ofgem and this predatory fuckstick of a government.
Regulation would need to change to stop letting any fuckwit of a chancer set up shop and fuck off into the tax haven sunset when things go inevitably shitty. But no, deregulation, free markets unghhh.
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Post by zagibu on Jul 28, 2022 14:11:44 GMT
How are they not being prosecuted for fraud or embezzlement? Because nobody sued them? Justice doesn't happen automatically. Well, mostly, it doesn't happen at all, but certainly not automatically either. |
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Post by anephric on Jul 28, 2022 14:21:10 GMT
There are some naive people in here. How, exactly, do you expect I can a) refurb my yacht in Monaco this year and b) keep paying the crew's wages unless I get my special magical dividend/company loan?
Have you seen how much those fuckers want this year? I'd have to dip into my own pocket, fuck that. I promised Mum a new Phantom.
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Post by dogbot on Jul 28, 2022 14:22:42 GMT
How are they not being prosecuted for fraud or embezzlement? Because nobody sued them? Justice doesn't happen automatically. Well, mostly, it doesn't happen at all, but certainly not automatically either. It's a regulated industry, it shouldn't need someone to sue them... unfortunately the government is complicit. |
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Post by Bongo Heracles on Jul 28, 2022 14:29:03 GMT
It is kind of weird. At one point it seemed like all you needed was a laptop and a bit of liquidity to set up 'Roof Tile Energy' in your bedroom and then they started going bust with like 500 customers.
Energy is literally core national infrastructure and they let a 22 year old run a part of it with no background checks.
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Post by anephric on Jul 28, 2022 14:35:22 GMT
If Ofgem is like any other civil service department, they'll have been gutted and anyone with any sense/experience will have retired or taken voluntary severance to avoid the approaching shitshow.
DfT was like this, which is why everything went fucking tits up with franchising.
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Post by minimatt on Jul 28, 2022 14:53:08 GMT
i'm reminded that Monbiot's goldfish is a registered waste handler with the Environment Agency, which itself no longer has the resources to investigate ... environmental harm
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Post by Dougs on Jul 28, 2022 15:08:27 GMT
If Ofgem is like any other civil service department, they'll have been gutted and anyone with any sense/experience will have retired or taken voluntary severance to avoid the approaching shitshow. DfT was like this, which is why everything went fucking tits up with franchising. Definitely this. |
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Post by snackplissken on Jul 29, 2022 8:59:43 GMT
Wow I actually got a refund of £25 from E.ON when we moved in and had to pay the crossover.
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Post by hedben on Jul 29, 2022 12:06:00 GMT
I haven’t been keeping up with this thread or paying much attention to bills recently, but fucking hell, when did it go over 5 quid for a 500g tub of Lurpak? I was gawping at it in my local Co-Op, convinced they must have mis-labelled it.
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Post by H-alphaFox on Jul 29, 2022 12:34:17 GMT
These people are fucked in the head and are running the show.
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Post by askew on Jul 29, 2022 12:45:43 GMT
Seems sensible to me. Small gesture, sure, but lead by example 'n all
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Post by H-alphaFox on Jul 29, 2022 12:53:31 GMT
Could of just said we are turning the a/c down and you don't have to wear a tie if you don't want to and urge workplaces to do the same.
Not some contrived nonsense like the above.
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Post by anephric on Jul 29, 2022 13:27:19 GMT
Germany is being reasonably hardcore with power restrictions to avoid rolling blackouts this winter if Putin gets twitchy on the Gasprom pedal.
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Post by Sarfrin on Jul 29, 2022 22:21:47 GMT
General strike is the only thing we have left. All of us down tools until the fuckers resign and give us a chance to elect someone who gives the slightest shit about the country's future.
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Post by dfunked on Jul 29, 2022 22:32:15 GMT
Those wokey snowflakes striking again becoz they herd about it on the ticktock. I tell you wot we didn't do this in my day!
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Post by cubby on Jul 29, 2022 22:37:47 GMT
Back in my day we could support a whole family on one wage! Bloody snowflakes not pulling themselves up by their bootstraps and earning more relative to the cost of living.
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Post by Gruf on Jul 30, 2022 8:38:32 GMT
They will be wanting to heat their homes in winter next, honestly.
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Post by Bill in the rain on Jul 30, 2022 8:54:02 GMT
Could of just said we are turning the a/c down and you don't have to wear a tie if you don't want to and urge workplaces to do the same. Not some contrived nonsense like the above. This has been a government scheme in Japan for a decade or two.
The PM does a photo op in a short sleeve shirt and no tie at the beginning of every summer. 
Though when I mentioned here that the government recommends setting the AC to 28 degrees to save energy, everyone had a heart attack.  |
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Post by sport✅ on Jul 30, 2022 8:54:38 GMT
Just sayin we didn't need central heating when the Luftwaffe were making raids.
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Post by Vortex on Jul 30, 2022 8:58:17 GMT
Most of the surrounding buildings were ablaze though, so lots of lovely free heat
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