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Post by Reviewer on Apr 4, 2022 19:56:03 GMT
Well it’s either that or take £0.000001 off everyone’s cost per hour. Is it a bit pointless, yes. Getting angry about it seems strange though.
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Post by Frog on Apr 4, 2022 20:09:19 GMT
Surely you can see it is quite cynical? Why not give them a half decent quality quilt that won't cost them anything to use and do the same job?
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Post by Aunt Alison on Apr 4, 2022 20:11:03 GMT
Or a sleeping bag they can use when they're homeless
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Post by Reviewer on Apr 4, 2022 20:33:06 GMT
Surely you can see it is quite cynical? Why not give them a half decent quality quilt that won't cost them anything to use and do the same job? Because it’s supposed to be for the poorest, where a blanket alone isn’t going to be enough when it’s freezing. It may be cynical, but it might not seem like that to someone that desperately wants and needs something more than a thick bit of cloth. |
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Post by Frog on Apr 4, 2022 20:41:12 GMT
I didn't say a blanket did I.
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Post by Reviewer on Apr 4, 2022 20:45:36 GMT
Oh sorry. A quilt. That’s completely different.
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Post by stuz359 on Apr 4, 2022 20:51:08 GMT
I may be angry because energy companies are making record profits and rather than passing on those profits to customers they are trying to garner a little favour with pointless virtue signalling. I may be angry because the burden for everything is being asked to be paid by salaried workers, rather than asset owners, who by definition, are already wealthy. I may be angry because the system already benefits those that are wealthy and unfairly targets taxes on the poorest. I don't know, maybe I'm being fucking unreasonable?
Maybe I'm angry because I'm sick and tired of a system that punishes people for being poor, old, or sick?
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Post by Frog on Apr 4, 2022 20:51:47 GMT
It absolutely is.
Adding additional costs to families that already can't afford to survive isn't helping them.
Having been someone that couldn't afford to have electric for about 50 percent of the time when I was in my first flat I can tell you if someone had offered me an electric blanket I would have thought they were taking the piss.
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Post by Dougs on Apr 4, 2022 20:55:05 GMT
Agree entirely.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 4, 2022 20:59:10 GMT
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Post by stuz359 on Apr 4, 2022 21:15:40 GMT
I am moving into my own flat in a couple of weeks and going through budget for bills etc. I know we are over the winter, but I think that while buying furniture I will buy a Kokatsu table. I reckon it could be the best thing ever for next year, why heat a house (or room) when you can just heat a small area around you. Should save a ton off the electric bill. Anyone ever used one or have any comments? I have seen them in Japan but never actually tried it. I hope to be buying my own flat soon enough, but that essentially looks like heating a small area under a table. That sounds depressing. Are you planning on sleeping on the floor? |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 4, 2022 21:20:15 GMT
I am moving into my own flat in a couple of weeks and going through budget for bills etc. I know we are over the winter, but I think that while buying furniture I will buy a Kokatsu table. I reckon it could be the best thing ever for next year, why heat a house (or room) when you can just heat a small area around you. Should save a ton off the electric bill. Anyone ever used one or have any comments? I have seen them in Japan but never actually tried it. I hope to be buying my own flat soon enough, but that essentially looks like heating a small area under a table. That sounds depressing. Are you planning on sleeping on the floor? More for sitting around relaxing, instead of sitting on sofa in a warm room, sit more reclined and use it. I usually sit on the floor anyway as I find it more comfortable so the style suits. odditymall.com/japanese-heated-kotatsu-tableI never heat my bedroom anyway, I like a cold room with a warm duvet, this is just for the lounge. |
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Post by mcmonkeyplc on Apr 4, 2022 21:33:03 GMT
Out gas bill just went above £7 for 1 Fucking day
1 day!
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Post by Bill in the rain on Apr 4, 2022 22:55:41 GMT
More for sitting around relaxing, instead of sitting on sofa in a warm room, sit more reclined and use it. I usually sit on the floor anyway as I find it more comfortable so the style suits. odditymall.com/japanese-heated-kotatsu-tableI never heat my bedroom anyway, I like a cold room with a warm duvet, this is just for the lounge. I've always complained about the way Japanese homes are entirely un-insulated and so they're freezing in winter and boiling in summer, except for the one room/kotatsu where they have some heating/cooling going. I've always missed having proper central heating. But it does sound like energy prices might make things in the UK a bit more like in Japan, as it's going to get prohibitively expensive to heat entire houses, even with the much better insulation. |
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Post by henroben on Apr 5, 2022 12:08:33 GMT
I had a Japanese ex who was extremely critical of them and who actively tried to avoid going back to see her parents in the winter purely because of how miserable it was. She was of the opinion that central heating was one of the greatest inventions ever. Never used one personally, but I'm presuming it'd be similar to the old days here of just having a single coal fire in the sitting room - part of you would be boiling hot, part of you will be freezing cold and the rest of the house will be cold and damp... |
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Post by EMarkM on Apr 5, 2022 12:16:04 GMT
henroben That’s exactly how I was brought up in 1970s England: one coal fire in the house and nothing else. I’m old enough to have finally started to feel the cold more these days, but I’d still rather be cold than hot.
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Post by Bongo Heracles on Apr 5, 2022 12:23:20 GMT
And that has led to some right wing derangement with a lot of numbskulls handwaving away the cost of living crisis 'who remembers how shit it was in the 70s and we didnt die then?'.
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Post by Dougs on Apr 5, 2022 12:24:32 GMT
Oh man, that is really pissing me off. Always with the fucking race to the bottom. And almost always selective memories.
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Post by DJCopa on Apr 5, 2022 12:26:18 GMT
And that has led to some right wing derangement with a lot of numbskulls handwaving away the cost of living crisis 'who remembers how shit it was in the 70s and we didnt die then?'. That's been the mantra since Brexit (and probably before, but a lot louder now) - "we didn't die in the past, therefore it must be good and anything contrary to this is weak" |
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Post by Reviewer on Apr 5, 2022 12:26:36 GMT
No one ever used to have flat screen TVs or mobile phones! We didn’t shower every day, we’d all get in the bath together once a week instead! People want everything these days.
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Post by DJCopa on Apr 5, 2022 12:27:33 GMT
BRING BACK RICKETS!
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Post by sport✅ on Apr 5, 2022 12:39:00 GMT
Top tip: replace your carpets with electric blankets. Mimics underfloor heating for a fraction of the cost.
Top tip ++: run floor blankets off usb powerbanks which you charge at your local coffee shop.*
* Only order tap water of course
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Post by GigaChad Sigma. on Apr 5, 2022 12:42:31 GMT
Central heating didn't exist in New Zealand in the 80's and 90's and while it gets pimped out as a tropical climate its closer to England than Aus (just with more sunlight)
In winter it will often get to under 5 degrees Celsius with added disadvantage of the majority of house are wood rather than brick.
So growing up you often awoke to seeing your own breath and freezing floors.
Whilst I've now adapted to the extravagance of a warm house a reduction in the use of heating could be managed without us turning into ice sculptures.
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Post by zagibu on Apr 5, 2022 12:46:31 GMT
Yeah, let's put the common people back decades so the overlords can increase their profit margins.
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Post by GigaChad Sigma. on Apr 5, 2022 12:47:23 GMT
My motivation is a reduction in fossil fuel dependency rather than some strange Tory support.
I think any move to greener energy is going to mean a change in the use of existing heating systems.
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Post by Nemesis on Apr 5, 2022 12:47:58 GMT
Switching from coal to gas central heating was a revelation and I can tell you a coal fire is a miserable thing to own.
I still remember the damp coal added to the fire smell to this day. I should probably have a wash. Wait..it’s not Sunday. Carry on.
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Post by dogbot on Apr 5, 2022 12:48:18 GMT
Yeah, let's put the common people back decades so the overlords can increase their profit margins. Careful. You'll be inducted into the Tory party.  |
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Post by sport✅ on Apr 5, 2022 12:48:37 GMT
In winter it will often get to under 5 degrees Celsius with added disadvantage of the majority of house are wood rather than brick. Kak, it never snowed in Hobbiton! |
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Post by ekz on Apr 5, 2022 12:54:23 GMT
Central heating didn't exist in New Zealand in the 80's and 90's and while it gets pimped out as a tropical climate its closer to England than Aus (just with more sunlight) In winter it will often get to under 5 degrees Celsius with added disadvantage of the majority of house are wood rather than brick. So growing up you often awoke to seeing your own breath and freezing floors. Whilst I've now adapted to the extravagance of a warm house a reduction in the use of heating could be managed without us turning into ice sculptures. Wait, do people actually say NZ is tropical? Coming from aus, my main motivation for never going to NZ to see family etc is because of how fucking cold it is there |
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Post by Bill in the rain on Apr 6, 2022 0:20:19 GMT
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