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Post by Deleted on Jul 14, 2023 14:54:51 GMT
Don’t be silly, Microsoft could never buy Nintendo.
They’ll buy Sony.
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Post by Ulythium on Jul 14, 2023 14:59:39 GMT
Don’t be silly, Microsoft could never buy Nintendo. They’ll buy Sony.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 14, 2023 15:03:00 GMT
The MicroSony PlayBox Series 6!
It will be an abomination.
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Post by robthehermit on Jul 14, 2023 15:53:40 GMT
I like that one of the reasons the FTC is appealing the decision is because it will look bad if they lose. Considering that’s Sony’s whole motivation, it makes sense. They’re ride or dying this whole stupid thing. Yeah, but making a point of it in the actual appeal filing is a bold move. |
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Post by baihu1983 on Jul 14, 2023 16:33:19 GMT
Just a couple days ago it felt like the end was in sight.
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Post by aubergine on Jul 15, 2023 1:59:43 GMT
FTC’s appeal request to block the merger has been denied by the higher court, although weirdly it sounds like they will hear the case but only after the acquisition has gone ahead?
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Post by crashV👀d👀 on Jul 15, 2023 7:27:23 GMT
FTC’s appeal request to block the merger has been denied by the higher court, although weirdly it sounds like they will hear the case but only after the acquisition has gone ahead? old school money hats |
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Post by technoish on Jul 15, 2023 10:34:08 GMT
Also, the Marvel Ultimate Alliance games have Xbox series x versions recently released by Activision - why wouldn't they go on game pass?
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Post by Jambowayoh on Jul 15, 2023 12:29:02 GMT
Also, the Marvel Ultimate Alliance games have Xbox series x versions recently released by Activision - why wouldn't they go on game pass? Some games might, some games will not. Just because Activision publish something doesn't mean they can do whatever with it, the original contracts most likely don't have a clause for being able to put certain games on a subscription based service. Again, if they're arsed to renegotiate certain licences then they will. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 15, 2023 14:29:08 GMT
Also, seeing as those games were delisted from the store ages ago, I would wager it’s a no. Same with the Transformers games. Activision must not have held on to the licenses for very long.
Actually annoys me about the Ninja Turtles game Platinum developed, which Activision published. It got poor reviews so I was hoping to get it on sale, but that game didn’t last long. Which is why I made sure to buy Shredder’s Revenge as soon as possible, out of fear that’d leave digital stores quickly too.
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Post by baihu1983 on Jul 15, 2023 16:17:38 GMT
See all the old cod games have had online updates. Likely ready for when they go on Game Pass. Seems its only the current release that can't until Sony's deal ends in a couple years.
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Post by baihu1983 on Jul 16, 2023 16:59:12 GMT
No surprise
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Post by Deleted on Jul 16, 2023 17:01:34 GMT
If it’s “more choice,” they should’ve @ed Nintendo too. @ing PlayStation is the same choice.
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Post by baihu1983 on Jul 16, 2023 18:43:22 GMT
No chance IMO.
Would actually be surprised if they buy any other publisher this gen. Buy a few smaller companies but that's it.
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Post by dangerousdave on Jul 16, 2023 19:24:39 GMT
So the choice is spend £50 on COD at launch, or get it as part of Gamepass. Obviously those tied into a new gen console already will have made their choice, but I wonder impact it’ll have on those still yet to buy a current gen console.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 16, 2023 19:25:36 GMT
You’re gonna make Jim Ryan sad again, dave
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Post by dangerousdave on Jul 16, 2023 19:39:26 GMT
You mean I’ve upset him already?!
Edit - Actually, I did opt for a Series X this gen. And I’m still playing my Switch mostly, so yeah. It checks out.
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Post by Jambowayoh on Jul 16, 2023 19:41:40 GMT
So the choice is spend £50 on COD at launch, or get it as part of Gamepass. Obviously those tied into a new gen console already will have made their choice, but I wonder impact it’ll have on those still yet to buy a current gen console. If you're coming from a Xbox one or PS4 the only difference will be down to friends list and your digital library. |
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Post by britesparc on Jul 17, 2023 12:16:44 GMT
No chance IMO. Would actually be surprised if they buy any other publisher this gen. Buy a few smaller companies but that's it. Yeah I'd be amazed if they even tried. A dev like IOI maybe but not a whole publisher, not till the next Xbox is out the gate. But what do I know? |
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Post by baihu1983 on Jul 17, 2023 16:00:54 GMT
I think they would have a much harder job getting Take Two done now seeing how long this one dragged out. Would say GTA is too big to let a console maker own.
IO would be a good shout but I would think they would be reluctant to have another owner considering how bad it went with SE. They seem to be doing very well by themselves at the moment.
Judge in the CAT hearing basically saying the Sony deal should be the end of it and MS and Activision should close the deal today or tomorrow.
Challenged the CMA on the quick 180 to want to sit and chat to MS after they took the FTC out of the situation.
Sounds like even he just wants it all to be done now. Feels like it's been about 2 years since it was first announced.
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Post by paulyboy81 on Jul 17, 2023 16:41:30 GMT
Still surprised this looks more or less done now, I would genuinely have bet money on it not going through just before the FTC injunction hearing.
The powers that be definitely made a complete hash of trying to block it, my nan probably knows more about the gaming industry than the FTC's lawyers.
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Post by theguy on Jul 17, 2023 16:52:05 GMT
It is baffling that both the FTC and CMA, set up to support consumers, have handled it so poorly they've got people cheering the megacorp instead
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Post by Deleted on Jul 17, 2023 17:00:47 GMT
I think people would’ve been more against it if Sony’s actual arguments weren’t “but courts, what if they do all the things we’re actively doing??”
The leaked emails made both sides look terrible, but Sony’s official statements made them look like hypocrites.
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Post by deekyfun on Jul 17, 2023 17:06:15 GMT
Trying to find a side to empathise with between these two titans of the most uninspiring part of video-game space is like trying to pick the best ghost for Pac-Man to eat.
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Post by robthehermit on Jul 17, 2023 17:41:16 GMT
IO might not be bad shout. Their new fantasy rpg is allegedly xbox exclusive if any of the "facts" from the recent ftc case are to be believed.
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Post by aubergine on Jul 17, 2023 23:37:27 GMT
I think they would have a much harder job getting Take Two done now seeing how long this one dragged out. Would say GTA is too big to let a console maker own. IO would be a good shout but I would think they would be reluctant to have another owner considering how bad it went with SE. They seem to be doing very well by themselves at the moment. Judge in the CAT hearing basically saying the Sony deal should be the end of it and MS and Activision should close the deal today or tomorrow. Challenged the CMA on the quick 180 to want to sit and chat to MS after they took the FTC out of the situation. Sounds like even he just wants it all to be done now. Feels like it's been about 2 years since it was first announced. I think this whole affair only proves Microsoft have carte blanche to do whatever the hell they want. Might makes right. |
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Post by Bill in the rain on Jul 18, 2023 1:14:59 GMT
Wasn't there that whole EU ruling about the way MS was abusing their control of windows to force people to use IE?
And yet now windows keeps trying to force me to use Edge.
Quite why they didn't apply a similar ruling to Apple devices and Safari, and Google devices and Chrome I don't know.
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Post by britesparc on Jul 18, 2023 10:57:50 GMT
I keep coming back to the fact that, while I think in general huge companies buying up vast chunks of an industry is probably bad, there are so many mitigating factors here that I've always been generally in favour of it.
I guess there's a trust issue (eg will MS make good on its promises, will they actually change anything, etc) but the fact that Acti has a terrible corporate culture, and the fact that so many talented devs are just chained to supporting CoD all the time, means there's actually a lot of stuff Microsoft could do that would be really beneficial; and it probably has to be someone of MS's size in order to do it. And, if Acti is looking for a sale, I'd rather a vested gaming company like Xbox was in charge than have them strip-mined for assets or absorbed into someone like Amazon.
On the other hand, if this CMA renegotiation ends up with all cloud streaming cut out of Game Pass in the UK, then the whole thing can get in the sea.
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Post by Psiloc on Jul 18, 2023 11:32:18 GMT
Meanwhile, the EU have a problem with MS bundling Teams with Office, and they have been forced to separate them to appease Slack.
I simply fail to understand how the Activision deal isn't orders of magnitude more egregious than this
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Post by Psiloc on Jul 18, 2023 11:43:01 GMT
I guess there's a trust issue (eg will MS make good on its promises, will they actually change anything, etc) but the fact that Acti has a terrible corporate culture, and the fact that so many talented devs are just chained to supporting CoD all the time, means there's actually a lot of stuff Microsoft could do that would be really beneficial; and it probably has to be someone of MS's size in order to do it. To be honest I'd personally be less surprised if MS don't manage to fuck it up completely |
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