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Post by paulyboy81 on Jun 26, 2023 16:20:03 GMT
Do you guys know anyone with a console to borrow? Or grab a pube filled one from the local cash generator and trade it back afterwards. Shame the old Blockbuster console rental is no longer a thing. How much was that and how long was it for? Honestly can't remember.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 26, 2023 16:24:17 GMT
I remember I wanted to rent a Sega Saturn for a weekend when I was a kid. I think it was like $15 plus deposit. The deposit was the price of the console itself (as it should be, to be fair). My dad laughed and went “you’re crazy. Nope!”
Needless to say, I did not get to play Astal that weekend.
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Post by crashV👀d👀 on Jun 26, 2023 16:35:24 GMT
Who wants a Series S though I'd have one, especially as a second box. We picked up a second hand one for youngest for £100 and it's fantastic.
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Post by Psiloc on Jun 26, 2023 17:02:31 GMT
I remember I wanted to rent a Sega Saturn for a weekend when I was a kid. I think it was like $15 plus deposit. The deposit was the price of the console itself (as it should be, to be fair). My dad laughed and went “you’re crazy. Nope!” Needless to say, I did not get to play Astal that weekend. I bought Astal recently. It’s pretty good, you missed out
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Post by Deleted on Jun 26, 2023 17:20:00 GMT
It was one of the first games I bought when I picked up a used Saturn a few years later. Absolutely stunning spite work. Some of the best to this day.
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Post by aubergine on Jun 26, 2023 17:22:05 GMT
I get the 'new IP' argument in many cases, but I don't think it applies in quite the same way to Starfield or Redfall because both Bethesda and Arkane have such well-established fanbases already; to me, the names of those devs are bigger than their specific IPs, 'cause people already love Fallout/Elder Scrolls and Dishonored/Prey. So if the 'new IP' argument is being used to say that it's too risky a proposition to release across platforms, or that it's somehow less unfair to deprive PlayStation of Starfield than it would be for TES6, I respect your opinion but I don't see it that way myself. When that came up earlier I think we were talking more about what Microsoft’s thinking potentially may have been, not actually a position anyone here was promoting. More as an argument for why they may make TES6 Multiplatform despite Starfield being an exclusive. Wishful thinking, but it’s years away from being relevant anyway.
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Post by baihu1983 on Jun 26, 2023 17:26:19 GMT
Didn't Atlus just announce an SMT JRPG exlsuive to Xbox? That's a weird one No. They always do an odd thing of waiting 48hrs to confirm other platforms.
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Post by baihu1983 on Jun 26, 2023 17:29:44 GMT
I hadn’t seen this: it’s in a Eurogamer article about whether Starfield has a physical disc. “ We've contacted Bethesda for clarification on what the situation is with copies here, and will update when we hear back. Microsoft's decision to keep Bethesda's games exclusive is "powerful evidence" against its Activision Blizzard takeover bid, US antitrust agency the Federal Trade Commission has said. Earlier this month, the FTC succeeded in getting a temporary ban placed on Microsoft's $68.7bn Activision Blizzard buyout bid. Now, ahead of an upcoming hearing regarding the agency's request for a preliminary injunction, the FTC has submitted further documentation on the matter.” It's odd the FTC keep trying to push this and claim MS lied to the European regulators despite them coming out and saying that's not true.
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Post by aubergine on Jun 26, 2023 17:31:45 GMT
I hadn’t seen this: it’s in a Eurogamer article about whether Starfield has a physical disc. “ We've contacted Bethesda for clarification on what the situation is with copies here, and will update when we hear back. Microsoft's decision to keep Bethesda's games exclusive is "powerful evidence" against its Activision Blizzard takeover bid, US antitrust agency the Federal Trade Commission has said. Earlier this month, the FTC succeeded in getting a temporary ban placed on Microsoft's $68.7bn Activision Blizzard buyout bid. Now, ahead of an upcoming hearing regarding the agency's request for a preliminary injunction, the FTC has submitted further documentation on the matter.” It's odd the FTC keep trying to push this and claim MS lied to the European regulators despite them coming out and saying that's not true. Well, you can’t spell misled without MS lied. yes I saw your ninja edit
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Post by baihu1983 on Jun 26, 2023 17:39:19 GMT
Want a Medal?
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Post by killerbee on Jun 26, 2023 17:40:51 GMT
While I generally agree the Series S is underpowered for a “next gen” console, it’s a great and cheap way to enjoy a range of stuff on Gamepass.
I definitely consider my PS5 as my “main console” but rather than chuck my old PS4 (original fat 500GB version) in the loft, I traded it in and the S only cost me £99.
Gamepass is basically free if you use the £1 starter deals (if they still do those?) and collect MS Points to fund it from there… although with recent price rises it’s hard to predict how viable that will remain…
Anyway, I realise Starfield might be the exception but if you accept 1080p and 30fps, the Series S usually delivers pretty reliable results.
I’m a resolute PlayStation first fan, but I wouldn’t knock what Microsoft have done to deliver a decent budget machine.
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Post by JonFE on Jun 26, 2023 19:21:06 GMT
I really think MS end game is for GamePass to be available on ALL gaming hardware (including PS, obviously) via cloud, so that hardware sales and costly R&D won't really matter, to the point where they could even withdraw from it altogether; that's my take on this...
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Post by Jambowayoh on Jun 26, 2023 19:25:36 GMT
I really think MS end game is for GamePass to be available on ALL gaming hardware (including PS, obviously) via cloud, so that hardware sales and costly R&D won't really matter, to the point where they could even withdraw from it altogether; that's my take on this... I don't think that's a secret tbh. Their business model is predominantly based on software and locking you into an ecosystem.
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Post by Vandelay on Jun 26, 2023 19:54:49 GMT
I imagine cloud gaming is the current endgame for both the console manufacturers (I don't imagine Nintendo thinking along those lines, as their online offering still lags massively behind. If they are thinking about it then it won't be until after the others are already established.) We will definitely see another full-blooded console out of both of them, likely purely digital and with cloud gaming as the predominant feature. But the generation after that... if they even bother producing hardware, it is going to be a shell of a unit.
That isn't for another 10+ years though.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 26, 2023 19:58:06 GMT
I imagine there will be a PS6, but I’m not so sure about a new Xbox. If what’s been said in these hearings is true, it sounds like a lot of publishers don’t even want to put their games out on Xboxes anymore, including Bethesda and Activision. I recall EA saying a little whole ago that they’re not bothered by the Activision purchase because their (EA’s) are the most successful on Xbox.. but yeah, it doesn’t look good for them.
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Post by Jambowayoh on Jun 26, 2023 19:59:10 GMT
I imagine there will be a PS6, but I’m not so sure about a new Xbox. If what’s been said in these hearings is true, it sounds like a lot of publishers don’t even want to put their games out on Xboxes anymore, including Bethesda and Activision. I recall EA saying a little whole ago that they’re not bothered by the Activision purchase because their (EA’s) are the most successful on Xbox.. but yeah, it doesn’t look good for them. Err what? Have you had a stroke?
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Post by paulyboy81 on Jun 26, 2023 20:07:03 GMT
I imagine cloud gaming is the current endgame for both the console manufacturers (I don't imagine Nintendo thinking along those lines, as their online offering still lags massively behind. If they are thinking about it then it won't be until after the others are already established.) We will definitely see another full-blooded console out of both of them, likely purely digital and with cloud gaming as the predominant feature. But the generation after that... if they even bother producing hardware, it is going to be a shell of a unit. That isn't for another 10+ years though. Yeah definitely the way they will all go eventually, even Nintendo. Wouldn't like to put a timeframe on it personally, because I'm historically shite at putting a date on these things, but I wouldn't expect to be purchasing a stand alone console say 25 years from now. Really hard to predict the rate of uptake on the infrastructure needed worldwide for it to be feasible though, so lord knows. But streaming technology will *eventually* put an end to the console as we know it.
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Post by Danno on Jun 26, 2023 20:13:49 GMT
Typical Uly always spoiling for a fucking fight. Warmongering git. Look what you've done.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 26, 2023 20:14:55 GMT
Err what? Have you had a stroke? All week, it’s been “we almost didn’t get Starfield at all,” or “Activision charged us an 80:20 split or we’d lose Call of Duty.” Square Enix has already seemingly dropped out. Shit looks dire.
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Post by Jambowayoh on Jun 26, 2023 20:17:44 GMT
Ahhh....ENTIENDO.
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Post by convercide on Jun 26, 2023 20:25:51 GMT
I imagine there will be a PS6, but I’m not so sure about a new Xbox. If what’s been said in these hearings is true, it sounds like a lot of publishers don’t even want to put their games out on Xboxes anymore, including Bethesda and Activision. I recall EA saying a little whole ago that they’re not bothered by the Activision purchase because their (EA’s) are the most successful on Xbox.. but yeah, it doesn’t look good for them. Err.. what?
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Post by Ulythium on Jun 26, 2023 20:27:53 GMT
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Post by Jambowayoh on Jun 26, 2023 20:28:56 GMT
I imagine there will be a PS6, but I’m not so sure about a new Xbox. If what’s been said in these hearings is true, it sounds like a lot of publishers don’t even want to put their games out on Xboxes anymore, including Bethesda and Activision. I recall EA saying a little whole ago that they’re not bothered by the Activision purchase because their (EA’s) are the most successful on Xbox.. but yeah, it doesn’t look good for them. Err.. what? I know, I know. I think Spooky was being sarcastic.
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Post by convercide on Jun 26, 2023 20:29:10 GMT
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Post by zephro on Jun 26, 2023 21:22:19 GMT
I feel like the quote was “when it makes sense,” and to me it just never made sense for them to release new IP on PS5. Established IP fit more in with the “we’ll evaluate when the time comes.” Minecraft being the big example. Mojang were careful to get Minecraft out on PlayStation 4 a good couple months before the announcement they were selling to Microsoft. You can bet that Sony were livid behind the scenes. Minecraft has not had an official release on ps5 nor on series x, though I believe the ps4 version runs with an improved draw distance on ps5. I’m not actually sure if there’s an example of a platform-owned developer having a game out on a rival console before this. I wanna say Sonic Adventure 2 on the GameCube. But Sega may have already given up on the Dreamcast at that point. Oh Wipeout? Pretty sure that was after Psygnosis got bought. Before they were burned to the ground.
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Post by Danno on Jun 26, 2023 21:26:40 GMT
Mojang were careful to get Minecraft out on PlayStation 4 a good couple months before the announcement they were selling to Microsoft. You can bet that Sony were livid behind the scenes. Minecraft has not had an official release on ps5 nor on series x, though I believe the ps4 version runs with an improved draw distance on ps5. I’m not actually sure if there’s an example of a platform-owned developer having a game out on a rival console before this. I wanna say Sonic Adventure 2 on the GameCube. But Sega may have already given up on the Dreamcast at that point. Oh Wipeout? Pretty sure that was after Psygnosis got bought. Before they were burned to the ground. Yeah Dreamcast was officially killed in 2001. Porting Sonic was started earlier than that to try claw some revenue into their coffers. I think it end up on all platforms.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 26, 2023 21:35:31 GMT
Wipeout and Destruction Derby are the earliest I can recall. Officially anyway. I think there were Sega games ported by third party publishers on the NES? Oh and Donkey Kong on Atari or Colecovision or something. If SNK counts, their games were on everything, and there was that one Sonic game on Neo Geo pocket.
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Post by zephro on Jun 26, 2023 21:45:45 GMT
Looks like all the Psygnosis games back in the day came out on several. Sony must have not interfered overly when they took them over.
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Post by convercide on Jun 26, 2023 22:25:33 GMT
Name the game on a Nintendo console, published by SEGA, of a Sony Movies property.
And it's a genuinely great game.
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Post by Lizard on Jun 27, 2023 4:50:03 GMT
Alien Isolation?
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