robthehermit
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Post by robthehermit on Mar 30, 2023 11:58:17 GMT
Speaking of Horizon, the rally expansion is out today.
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Post by britesparc on Mar 30, 2023 23:03:39 GMT
Playground Games who make the Forza Horizon series rose from the ashes by Bizarre Creations once Activision closed them down after the poorly received, but amazing Blur and an underselling James Bond tie-in. Playground then became a thing after a group of ex Bizarre Creations, Codemasters and Criterion devs decided to do their own thing. Also to make everyone feel old, the original Project Gotham Racing was released 21 years ago! I don't think I knew any of that. Explains why I like the Horizon games so I guess. |
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Post by Timo180 on Mar 31, 2023 9:39:59 GMT
Speaking of Horizon, the rally expansion is out today. I’ve only played a bit but it’s enjoyable so far; not dirt 2, but then it never was going to be. |
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Post by baihu1983 on Mar 31, 2023 11:06:47 GMT
I want a Rallisport Challenge 2 HD release.
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Post by Derblington on Apr 26, 2023 11:14:15 GMT
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Post by dfunked on Apr 26, 2023 11:18:14 GMT
Blimey. Sounded like it was in the bag the other day.
Oh well, not exactly a huge loss to me personally if it doesn't happen... I've already bought Diablo 4, which was the only Actiblizz game I'm likely to buy this decade.
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Post by Jambowayoh on Apr 26, 2023 11:25:23 GMT
Blimey. Sounded like it was in the bag the other day. Oh well, not exactly a huge loss to me personally if it doesn't happen... I've already bought Diablo 4, which was the only Actiblizz game I'm likely to buy this decade. Yeah, that's really weird. Almost every report was that it was a done deal. I mean I'll still continue with my life, hard as it may be, but I wonder what changed? The reasons it gives are... interesting to say the least, is the cloud market at risk? |
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Post by mcmonkeyplc on Apr 26, 2023 11:28:56 GMT
They're appealing...
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Post by Deleted on Apr 26, 2023 11:29:28 GMT
Thoughts and prayers to Baihu at this tragic time. He didn't even get to share the tweet.
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Post by Vandelay on Apr 26, 2023 11:29:54 GMT
Wow, the response from Microsoft and Activision is basically "fuck you UK", with threats to stop investment here. Plus some kicking us while we are down with digs about "dire economic situation" in the UK. Do we need to consider them both enemies of the people now?
Interesting that cloud gaming is the main reason to reject. Are we really in a position where that needs to be considered yet? I would think the numbers for cloud gaming are tiny at the moment and can't see that changing significantly this decade unless our internet infrastructure improves dramatically.
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Post by Dougs on Apr 26, 2023 11:31:28 GMT
Damn unelected bureaucrats, trying to protect consumers. (I have no idea if their reasoning is valid mind you. I do know some people in the CMA though...)
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Post by Resident Knievel on Apr 26, 2023 11:45:39 GMT
If cloud gaming becomes the way to play in a decades time then CMA have shown some foresight in blocking this deal.
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mcmonkeyplc
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Post by mcmonkeyplc on Apr 26, 2023 11:46:03 GMT
Wow, the response from Microsoft and Activision is basically "fuck you UK", with threats to stop investment here. Plus some kicking us while we are down with digs about "dire economic situation" in the UK. Do we need to consider them both enemies of the people now? Interesting that cloud gaming is the main reason to reject. Are we really in a position where that needs to be considered yet? I would think the numbers for cloud gaming are tiny at the moment and can't see that changing significantly this decade unless our internet infrastructure improves dramatically. Did they threaten or just point out we're shit? Also Cloud gaming should be thought of now, not when it's the main form of gaming. See facebook buying everything and then ....oops how did that happen. |
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Post by dogbot on Apr 26, 2023 11:47:46 GMT
CMA already beat Meta and forced them to divest Giphy, can't imagine this will be any different. |
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Post by baihu1983 on Apr 26, 2023 11:48:55 GMT
Crazy. Blocking it for something that's a long way from even being mainstream.
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Post by Vandelay on Apr 26, 2023 11:48:58 GMT
"This report is also a disservice to UK citizens, who face increasingly dire economic prospects, and we will need to reassess our growth strategy in the UK."
Sounds like threat to me.
Edit: and, yes Cloud gaming should be considered before it happens, but we are long way away from it being used by people. As I say, it won't be this decade.
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Post by mcmonkeyplc on Apr 26, 2023 11:49:58 GMT
This will be different cause MS don't already own Actiblizzard and they aren't going to spin off the cloud gaming business.
Maybe MS will just agree with Actiblizzard that they'll only buy King.
Fuck knows but I'm pretty sure CoD is not the reason for the purchase.
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Post by dogbot on Apr 26, 2023 11:50:11 GMT
Perhaps the UK should just point to the 3 massive rounds of layoffs MS have had to make whilst spending billions elsewhere...
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Post by Whizzo on Apr 26, 2023 11:55:25 GMT
Presumably Microsoft will be saying the same about the US as the FTC were against it too.
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Post by baihu1983 on Apr 26, 2023 12:03:45 GMT
Fine with MS owning all those games but not with them using them for cloud gaming despite MS making lots of deals to secure them on other services...
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Post by Syrette on Apr 26, 2023 12:11:41 GMT
Colour me a tad confused.
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Post by rammy18 on Apr 26, 2023 12:30:39 GMT
How does the stance of a UK regulatory body meaningfully affect the takeover of one American company by another American company? I’m sure they have UK offices/divisions or whatever, can they not just push some pieces around the board and say ‘fuck you’ to the CMA?
They seem pretty cross about it though, so I imagine it’s not as straight forward as that
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Post by Whizzo on Apr 26, 2023 12:34:55 GMT
Ask Facebook Meta about Giphy and the CMA if you want to see how they have reach.
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Post by hedben on Apr 26, 2023 12:43:06 GMT
How does the stance of a UK regulatory body meaningfully affect the takeover of one American company by another American company? I’m sure they have UK offices/divisions or whatever, can they not just push some pieces around the board and say ‘fuck you’ to the CMA? They seem pretty cross about it though, so I imagine it’s not as straight forward as that They presumably wouldn’t be allowed to trade in the UK if they decided to press ahead anyway- and while it’s not as big a market as the US or rest of the world, it’s big enough that they wouldn’t even consider a response that extreme. |
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Post by theguy on Apr 26, 2023 12:54:30 GMT
Probably for the better.
I'm still baffled people began supporting a £60 billion deal. I get thinking there's reasons it should go through but actively rooting for one megacorp taking over another is something I don't think I can grasp.
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Post by mcmonkeyplc on Apr 26, 2023 13:00:07 GMT
I agree but I'm also baffled how people thought it was the end of the world too.
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Post by rammy18 on Apr 26, 2023 13:00:27 GMT
How does the stance of a UK regulatory body meaningfully affect the takeover of one American company by another American company? I’m sure they have UK offices/divisions or whatever, can they not just push some pieces around the board and say ‘fuck you’ to the CMA? They seem pretty cross about it though, so I imagine it’s not as straight forward as that They presumably wouldn’t be allowed to trade in the UK if they decided to press ahead anyway- and while it’s not as big a market as the US or rest of the world, it’s big enough that they wouldn’t even consider a response that extreme. I thought about that - so if the CMA won’t approve the deal because it would harm UK gamers, how would removing or restricting Microsoft’s ability to trade in the UK be of benefit? |
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Post by mikew1985 on Apr 26, 2023 13:17:02 GMT
If Activision ever released any good games anymore this decision could be costing me tens of Euros.
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Post by richyroo on Apr 26, 2023 13:56:34 GMT
They presumably wouldn’t be allowed to trade in the UK if they decided to press ahead anyway- and while it’s not as big a market as the US or rest of the world, it’s big enough that they wouldn’t even consider a response that extreme. I thought about that - so if the CMA won’t approve the deal because it would harm UK gamers, how would removing or restricting Microsoft’s ability to trade in the UK be of benefit?
Exactly this. If they just go ahead and trade in the rest of the world, UK business and the consumer would be the ones which were adversely affected by this. Surely that would not be a good look for the UK as a whole and the CMA would then have no choice but to agree to the deal anyway.
I say call their bluff and continue anyway and announce you are pulling out of the UK gaming market, Then watch as the CMA shit themselves.
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Post by lukasz on Apr 26, 2023 14:11:58 GMT
Not sure why uk department will care. And Xbox ban in uk will hurt Microsoft a lot.
And it sets bad case as eu might do the same.
This deal is terrible in all fronts. Hope it dies
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