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Post by wildbillch on Jul 14, 2024 6:56:26 GMT
Given the state Biden's in I wouldn't be surprised if he makes a gaffe saying that he ordered the hit or something in the next few days
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Post by apollo on Jul 14, 2024 7:08:29 GMT
Honestly think it was staged, despite the shooter being republican, MAGA cunts would die for the cause. Trump managed to do photo op as the secret service didn't push him off stage straight away. It will help trump no end sadly. Difference is Biden and others had spoken out against this but Trump and others would of been gloating if it was Democrat
Of course MAGA cunt republicans (like Mike collins) are saying "Biden did it" somehow he is senile old duffer and then Mastermind playing chess
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Post by Bill the kidding on Jul 14, 2024 7:11:00 GMT
Your have to be a damn good shout to intentionally wound someone, but not seriously, from that distance. Particularly aiming for the head/ear.
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Post by JuniorFE on Jul 14, 2024 7:13:49 GMT
Also there's the slight problem of, y'know, the other casualties (at least one confirmed dead, maybe two)...
Unless of course they somehow knew exactly where the bullets would go, where any other potential shooters' bullets would go (like the Secret Service and/or police firing back), managed to sit exactly in those spots and went in with not even an attempt at protecting themselves, just ready to die
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Post by Tuffty on Jul 14, 2024 7:17:50 GMT
I don't know how you can say its staged when 2 people are dead, 1 a bystander. The plan is so dependent on so many factors, Trump standing a certain way, wind direction and speed, trajectory. Every possibility it goes wrong and it goes through Trumps eye socket. He ain't risking that. And who would want to he the shooter for guaranteed death? No point looking for conspiracy theories when plain incompetence from the shooter and his secret service are what happened to it looking so fake.
That said, I don't really blame anyone for thinking that way, Trumps supporters are all in on conspiracy theories and bringing them into the spotlight
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Post by minimatt on Jul 14, 2024 7:18:41 GMT
this does feel like one of those moments which will spark something quite terrible. depressingly pessimistic predictions:
Biden will be the last ever Democrat elected president. Trump obviously wins this year. And every subsequent year till he hands the monarchy to one of his kids. Zelensky will be handed to Putin on a plate. Our kids get conscripted into world war 3.
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Post by Rich on Jul 14, 2024 7:19:43 GMT
There's absolutely no chance of taking a shot to graze someone's cheek, so you're into 'the secret service agents were in on it and quickly cut him when they jumped on him' territory.
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Post by Frog on Jul 14, 2024 7:21:10 GMT
Why can't these pricks get some decent training before trying this stuff.
You get one attempt at this sort of thing so at least get yourself a decent chance at pulling it off and so you don't shoot some innocent bystander.
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Post by apollo on Jul 14, 2024 7:22:40 GMT
Your have to be a damn good shout to intentionally wound someone, but not seriously, from that distance. Particularly aiming for the head/ear. using bloodpack and put it against your ear and trump would consider others as fodders as he said before. I know its bit conspiracy and maybe the shooter was a bad one. Normally republicans wouldn't shot that fat rapist messiah.
I suppose this news gets Project 2025 and trump's raping out of the news...
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Post by Dougs on Jul 14, 2024 7:24:45 GMT
Why can't these pricks get some decent training before trying this stuff. You get one attempt at this sort of thing so at least get yourself a decent chance at pulling it off and so you don't shoot some innocent bystander. Yeah, it's proper "one job" territory.
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Post by 😎 on Jul 14, 2024 7:24:47 GMT
Find the “Trump wins because of this” talk weird. Not only is it still a while before November, you really think there’s enough undecided voters who will think “well he wasn’t my guy but he got shot so now he is”?
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Post by FlexibleFeline on Jul 14, 2024 7:26:32 GMT
Twitter is predictably depressing right now, even more of a hellscape than usual, with the cult members out in full force.
The only good thing I've seen there is a joke about his security yelling "Donald Duck!".
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Post by brokenkey on Jul 14, 2024 7:27:15 GMT
Your have to be a damn good shout to intentionally wound someone, but not seriously, from that distance. Particularly aiming for the head/ear. Be real - you see him reach for his ear - he might have had a blood pack in his hand and smeared the blood on at that point.
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Post by Wizzard_Ook on Jul 14, 2024 7:28:46 GMT
Just woke up and watching Sky News, they just showed a map of the area and where the shooter was. Shocking lack of detail from Trump security. Was the most obvious place you go if you were going to assassinate someone. It's kind of so obvious you probably wouldn't use it.
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Post by JuniorFE on Jul 14, 2024 7:28:54 GMT
Find the “Trump wins because of this” talk weird. Not only is it still a while before November, you really think there’s enough undecided voters who will think “well he wasn’t my guy but he got shot so now he is”? No, but it'll destroy any potential voter apathy across his base, while Biden might struggle to get his own base going, especially if he falls into more gaffes in the next few months. And if it comes down to a few thousand votes in swing states, as it usually does...
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Post by minimatt on Jul 14, 2024 7:29:43 GMT
2 or 3 percent is all that's needed and yeah, I absolutely think there are enough (concede I am particularly "glass half empty" at mo)
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Post by Zuluhero on Jul 14, 2024 7:30:20 GMT
Surely if it was a gunshot that missed him, someone behind would have been got properly? 1 dead, 2 seriously injured.
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Post by Dougs on Jul 14, 2024 7:34:37 GMT
Yeah, saw that when I woke up. What a mess. As much as I dislike Trump I still can't bring myself to wish for a different outcome.
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Post by MolarAm🔵 on Jul 14, 2024 7:35:05 GMT
Honestly think it was staged, despite the shooter being republican, MAGA cunts would die for the cause. Trump managed to do photo op as the secret service didn't push him off stage straight away. It will help trump no end sadly. Difference is Biden and others had spoken out against this but Trump and others would of been gloating if it was Democrat
Of course MAGA cunt republicans (like Mike collins) are saying "Biden did it" somehow he is senile old duffer and then Mastermind playing chess
I can kind of see the appeal of a conspiracy theory, but the far simpler explanation is that the person was mad with Trump and wanted to kill him. So I'd go with that, unless there's actual evidence that it was staged. (there currently isn't)
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Post by FlexibleFeline on Jul 14, 2024 7:37:18 GMT
Find the “Trump wins because of this” talk weird. Not only is it still a while before November, you really think there’s enough undecided voters who will think “well he wasn’t my guy but he got shot so now he is”? As you know, though, the Democrats' biggest problem is Biden, and many were already feeling it's a lost cause since he's dug his heels in while continuing to drop gaffes all over the place and simply not presenting as competent. This assassination attempt helps tip the balance, though for sure the most gleeful are those who would vote for Trump regardless, the ones who are currently jizzing themselves stupid over the fist salute photo. We must protect him at all costs!
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Post by malek86 on Jul 14, 2024 7:41:38 GMT
Find the “Trump wins because of this” talk weird. Not only is it still a while before November, you really think there’s enough undecided voters who will think “well he wasn’t my guy but he got shot so now he is”? No, but it'll destroy any potential voter apathy across his base, while Biden might struggle to get his own base going, especially if he falls into more gaffes in the next few months. And if it comes down to a few thousand votes in swing states, as it usually does... TBF it already looked to me like voter apathy is basically 0% on the Rep side, and near 100% on the Dem side. Still, if Biden had been seriously in the race, then this could have perhaps made a difference. Given the events of the last couple weeks, I think it's not going to change much anyway. Funny thing is... given how the election went, when Biden's term started, I thought Trump wasn't going to run ever again. And even if he tried, he had no actual hope of making it past primaries. Too many things changed in just 4 years.
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Post by Tuffty on Jul 14, 2024 7:45:45 GMT
I did have a good laugh at this
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Post by Frog on Jul 14, 2024 7:46:19 GMT
Yeah, saw that when I woke up. What a mess. As much as I dislike Trump I still can't bring myself to wish for a different outcome. I have no difficulty in wishing for a different outcome. Probably doesn't say anything good about me 😂
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Post by hicksy on Jul 14, 2024 7:47:30 GMT
In a sane world all USA parties and politicians would denounce the assassination attempt and use it as grounds for a major and permanent change to USA gun laws to deliver far more stringent gun controls.
But the USA is crazier than a box of frogs so highly unlikely sadly!
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Post by Mr Wonderstuff on Jul 14, 2024 7:50:52 GMT
I can see the crazies of the Republicans calling for Joe Biden's arrest - which will happen should Trump get into office.
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Post by dfunked on Jul 14, 2024 7:53:36 GMT
Knowing absolutely nothing about the dead bystander, I'd say chances are they deserved to live more than old Trumpy.
Given the choice of playing god, I'd much rather have no casualties and this botched attempt never happened. It's pretty much guaranteed his presidency, and if they'd succeeded we'd probably be in an even darker place.
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Post by Mr Wonderstuff on Jul 14, 2024 7:56:48 GMT
Knowing absolutely nothing about the dead bystander, I'd say chances are they deserved to live more than old Trumpy. Given the choice of playing god, I'd much rather have no casualties and this botched attempt never happened. It's pretty much guaranteed his presidency, and if they'd succeeded we'd probably be in an even darker place. Possibly, but I wouldn't count on it being darker than a Trump presidency. The USA is fucked.
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Post by apollo on Jul 14, 2024 8:00:38 GMT
I can see the crazies of the Republicans calling for Joe Biden's arrest - which will happen should Trump get into office. trump was already dribbling and rambling this sort of thing before this over the years
I do think Trump is going to use this as his Reichstag moment to crack down on other voices if fucking idiots vote for him and the other fucking idiots don't vote for Biden (I was against Biden carrying on but now Democrats need to join together and vote and no spoil the ballot paper)
Don't be surprised if the USA turns into the handmaid's tale due to Project 2025 with trump in the whitehouse. Glad I don't live in America anymore
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Post by rawshark on Jul 14, 2024 8:01:27 GMT
One thing is for 100% certain. That image of him holding his fist aloft is going to be on t-shirts, posters, merch… everything. It’ll probably end up being as iconic (in terms of overall usage) as the Obama Change or Che Guevara posters. It could even end up being an Uncle Sam…
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Post by MegaChad Sigma. on Jul 14, 2024 8:02:12 GMT
Find the “Trump wins because of this” talk weird. Not only is it still a while before November, you really think there’s enough undecided voters who will think “well he wasn’t my guy but he got shot so now he is”? It's Murica. Gaffe prone zombie Biden or fist pumping indestructible Trump. All that photo needed was a swooping bald Eagle to land on the podium.
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