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Post by wunty on Mar 6, 2024 11:46:57 GMT
It’s an odd coincidence is what it is.
Still. Lovely voice.
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Post by LegendaryApe on Mar 6, 2024 11:47:14 GMT
That's a Geefe story right there that is. Don't disparage our Wunty with such a comparison |
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Post by wunty on Mar 6, 2024 11:57:58 GMT
It's less the fact that it's "ZOMG look a (sort of) famous person" and more "huh, that's weird that this should link to that at this particular time".
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Post by wunty on Mar 6, 2024 12:00:09 GMT
As I get older and more feeble in the brain, I actually start to take some things as signs etc. I think a few more years time I'm going to just be a full on mystic obsessed nutjob who lives his life guided by the direction of the wind and how many times I've farted on the seventh Sunday of the masturbation alignment after the fortieth equinox under Orion's cock.
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Post by wunty on Mar 6, 2024 12:01:21 GMT
Anyway. Mirage. Looks good. I bought it. Thanks.
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Post by Tuffty on Mar 6, 2024 12:55:54 GMT
The Druid DLC for Valhalla was probably the best part about the whole game. Just a fairly large ish map, takes 20 hrs or so and the story is prob one of the better parts in that game. And that Gaelic song is indeed lovely
Thing is Ubisoft can make decent combat, look at Fenyx Rising. All flows really nicely, really satisfying even with a similar type of combat as the recent AC games. The difference being that Fenyx is fantastical so you have creative license to do wild shit with the combat like launchers into air combos, juggling enemies mid air etc. But AC has to be grounded in reality so there's not much you can do. At this point I'd be ok with a return to Batman esque combat
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Post by JuniorFE on Mar 6, 2024 13:08:09 GMT
I think the notion of AC being grounded in reality was kinda weak from the start between stuff like Eagle Vision and the Apples of Eden, tbh (even aside from the Animus premise)... And dealing with all the various gods, Isu interference etc especially in the open world trilogy mostly threw it out of the window, it might as well be Fenyx Rising with all the divine and magic abilities your protagonists have access to through their DNA ancestry  |
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Post by wunty on Mar 6, 2024 13:21:02 GMT
You know what I totally forgot about until recently? That Desmond was actually a thing. Then it all came flooding back. The pieces of Eden, the Isu, the apocalypse and everything else. I've barely noticed any of that since Unity. Is it all still a thing? I know Desmond died at the end of three but didn't know what the hell went on after. Didn't pay attention to Black Flag's 1st person bits really.
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Post by Jambowayoh on Mar 6, 2024 13:35:39 GMT
The Isu stuff has come back through the Nordic gods being Isu. At this point I don't really care and just like the series to be a kind of history game.
Speaking of Black Flag, I wonder if the rumours are true about there being a remake on the horizon. No pun intended.
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Post by wunty on Mar 6, 2024 14:10:37 GMT
They could use the assets from Skull and Bones for it. At least then not all the game will have been a huge fucking waste of time, talent and resources.
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Post by Tuffty on Mar 6, 2024 14:27:50 GMT
Pretty sure there's truth to that yeah. Wild to think a game all this time later has less functionality than the game it was built off. Future stuff still ongoing...somehow. By end of Valhalla they did away with Layla, as memorable of a protaganist she was, to basically set up some possibility of rewinding time or mutiverse nonsense where Desmond can come back. Basim appears to be the new future protaganist, the reincarnation of Loki who is also an Isu that appears to be working with the modern Assassins in order to fuel his own personal agenda. They illustrate this by having him wear a tshirt of a wolf whilst wearing a hoodie. Literally a wolf in sheeps clothing |
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Post by JuniorFE on Mar 6, 2024 14:35:37 GMT
Pretty sure there's truth to that yeah. Wild to think a game all this time later has less functionality than the game it was built off. Future stuff still ongoing...somehow. By end of Valhalla they did away with Layla, as memorable of a protaganist she was, to basically set up some possibility of rewinding time or mutiverse nonsense where Desmond can come back. Basim appears to be the new future protaganist, the reincarnation of Loki who is also an Isu that appears to be working with the modern Assassins in order to fuel his own personal agenda. They illustrate this by having him wear a tshirt of a wolf whilst wearing a hoodie. Literally a wolf in sheeps clothing To the spoiler: it's also a reference to Fenrir, who is Loki's son in Norse mythology. Another tie to Basim being Loki in a past life |
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Post by Tuffty on Mar 6, 2024 15:18:06 GMT
Genuinely don't remember that and then I realise its to do with the flashback sequences which were so fucking tedious to do that I just gave up. Everyone knows the best part about AC games is riding on horseback across empty plain fields between objectives. That was the worst about Valhalla, you spend more time travelling to do an objective than you do actually doing the mission
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Post by wunty on Mar 6, 2024 15:31:05 GMT
To be fair to Valhalla though, I fucking love the setting of it. You'd think Ancient Greece or Egypt would be more inspiring (they are awesome in their own right) but I'm a sucker for fog filled fens and right dour moody looking ruins. Maybe it reminds me so much of the scenery I have around me and that's why but... Yeah. I love it. Say what you like about the actual gameplay in these games... Ubisoft do very pretty settings.
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Post by Jambowayoh on Mar 6, 2024 16:11:48 GMT
They're pretty but they're not memorable in the way that a Rockstar designed world is, if that makes any sense.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 6, 2024 17:11:51 GMT
To be fair to Valhalla though, I fucking love the setting of it. You'd think Ancient Greece or Egypt would be more inspiring (they are awesome in their own right) but I'm a sucker for fog filled fens and right dour moody looking ruins. Maybe it reminds me so much of the scenery I have around me and that's why but... Yeah. I love it. Say what you like about the actual gameplay in these games... Ubisoft do very pretty settings. I’m the opposite. Loved Origins and Odyssey’s settings, thought Valhalla’s was bland. I liked the bit in the beginning in snowy Norway, but when it got to England… less so. |
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Post by FlexibleFeline on Mar 6, 2024 17:26:17 GMT
I actually loved the England setting of Valhalla too - I didn't think I would, but it worked for me for similar reasons to wunty. I even resented having to go on those Asgard missions as it pulled me out of a world I was really enjoying and into something much more generic. That said, after forty-odd hours I was done, with barely a dent on the overall progress of the game. I rinsed Origins on the other hand and it remains my favourite, with the Egyptian setting being my favourite of all so far (not to mention Bayek, love that guy). |
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Post by JuniorFE on Mar 6, 2024 17:32:22 GMT
To be fair to Valhalla though, I fucking love the setting of it. You'd think Ancient Greece or Egypt would be more inspiring (they are awesome in their own right) but I'm a sucker for fog filled fens and right dour moody looking ruins. Maybe it reminds me so much of the scenery I have around me and that's why but... Yeah. I love it. Say what you like about the actual gameplay in these games... Ubisoft do very pretty settings. I’m the opposite. Loved Origins and Odyssey’s settings, thought Valhalla’s was bland. I liked the bit in the beginning in snowy Norway, but when it got to England… less so. I liked all three, but if pressed I'd rank them Odyssey > Valhalla > Origins in terms of setting. Odyssey perhaps has a bit of Greek bias on my part boosting it, but I also really enjoyed having the Greek seas and islands to play around in alongside the mainland, coming to it directly after Black Flag (I'd skipped Origins at the time). Then Valhalla is an incredibly close second place, and may even edge out Odyssey overall considering I still haven't done all its DLCs, and Origins is in last place through no real fault of its own (although a few of the southern desert areas being entirely empty was a bit disappointing, even if accurate to real life) |
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Post by mikeck on Mar 6, 2024 17:43:57 GMT
I loved Valhalla, but just like FlexibleFeline I was done with it long before the story was nearing completion. It was beautiful and I liked pretty much everything about it, but I rarely have the time for a game like that anymore really (unless somehting epic like Elden Ring, which took me months to complete but I happily put all other gaming on hold whilst I did it). |
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Post by skalpadda on Mar 6, 2024 18:25:10 GMT
A very random AC related aside that I'm sure no-one will find interesting: Like I say, I was pissing about in Ireland in Valhalla and got to this bit of King Flann's coronation. One of the main DLC characters sings a song during it in gaelic that I actually thought was quite beautiful. So I pop it on Amazon music on my way to work and find out that the musician that sings it, as well as voices the character, is a member of my rowing club. Weirder still, I've never been a massive fan of the gaelic language and there's been some talk at the club with the names for the new boats being written in both English and gaelic. She was one of the ones that wasn't happy with our decision at this point not to run with it (genuine reason being this notion was submitted too late for the naming but it's under consideration for next time). Anyway. This only happened a couple of weeks back and I recall saying to my wife at the time that I wasn't too fussed as I wasn't a massive fan of gaelic. Hear this music last night and think "actually that sounds lovely, I may be being a bit too harsh". And it was her that was singing it. I know, it's a really pointless anecdote. But it's weird how disparate things in your life have a habit of converging at random moments sometimes. I can add a very slightly to the random convergence, though my anecdote is less direct and much more pointless than yours. Haven't played that DLC yet, but immediately thought Julie Fowlis - she's the only gaelic singer I know the name of. After a quick googling of the soundtrack I assume it actually is her, since she's the only vocalist mentioned and seems to voice a character as well. I've done a handful of side gigs writing little arrangements for a small amateur choir. I'm far from a pro, but I took a course in classical arranging at uni and know one of the choir members from back then. I guess I'm the very low budget option. One of the things they asked me to look at was a Julie Fowlis recording ( this one). They ultimately didn't go forward with it, I think because of lack of time, and I have no idea what they were planning to do with the lyrics. Shame, as I like the melody and it would have been fun.
So, um, not very interesting, but I guess say hi from Sweden if you get the chance, and let her know she has some fans over here.
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Post by wunty on Mar 6, 2024 18:48:20 GMT
They're pretty but they're not memorable in the way that a Rockstar designed world is, if that makes any sense. Oh Rockstar are still kings on that front, but I do love digital sightseeing in a Ubi world. |
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Post by Tuffty on Mar 7, 2024 0:31:43 GMT
Playing Syndicate and I just walked from top of the map in Whitechapel down to to Westminster at the bottom and it was honestly so fascinating. Broad ranges of different buildings, cutting through housing estates,the factories, across the Thames etc all with unique npc actions and activity along the way. It really did feel a bit magical, something lost with the shift to Origins and beyond I feel.
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Post by Frog on Mar 7, 2024 8:30:51 GMT
I actually can't remember any parts of any rockstar map really, if I went into any of their games I would immediately be lost.
I don't think they are overly memorable but they are great sandboxes to play in.
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Post by dfunked on Mar 7, 2024 8:39:11 GMT
You definitely got a feel for the map in the RDR games after a while and could navigate fairly well by compass towards the end, even if they're mostly wilderness.
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Post by wunty on Mar 7, 2024 9:36:25 GMT
Playing Syndicate and I just walked from top of the map in Whitechapel down to to Westminster at the bottom and it was honestly so fascinating. Broad ranges of different buildings, cutting through housing estates,the factories, across the Thames etc all with unique npc actions and activity along the way. It really did feel a bit magical, something lost with the shift to Origins and beyond I feel. Ha. I literally did the same thing in Unity last night. Revolutionary Paris may be my favourite setting of the lot. |
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Post by Jambowayoh on Mar 7, 2024 9:52:02 GMT
You definitely got a feel for the map in the RDR games after a while and could navigate fairly well by compass towards the end, even if they're mostly wilderness. That's what I've found with pretty much every Rockstar map imo. There are notable landmarks that I know where roundabout know where I am. To their credit the maps of the Assassin Creed franchise always come across as artist driven as opposed to the procedural stuff we get a lot now. |
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Post by deekyfun on Mar 7, 2024 9:53:48 GMT
Unity's Paris is easily my favourite city they've done.
I've been chipping away at replaying the series and I'm on Brotherhood atm. I'm really enjoying going back to these older style AC games; they're surprisingly playable, even if I do occasionally fling myself off tall buildings without intending to, or accidentally stab a random passer by when I just meant to push past them. Much like in real life.
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Post by Syrette on Apr 24, 2024 13:09:09 GMT
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Post by Jambowayoh on Apr 24, 2024 18:37:08 GMT
It seems they're doing different genres for AC going forward, so Traditional AC, Linear AC and RPG AC. Mirage was traditional, Red is seemingly RPG and I guess Hexe is Linear based. It's good to mix it up as I was getting tired of purely RPG based. Hopefully they've solved the loot problem of Valhalla and actually made the story, well, interesting.
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Post by Ulythium on May 15, 2024 16:19:46 GMT
Assassin's Creed Shadows (formerly known as Red) is out on November 15 for PS5, XSX|S, and PC.
I sort of feel as though Sucker Punch beat Ubisoft to the... well, punch, I suppose! All those years of Assassin's Creed fans pleading for an AC game set in feudal Japan, and Ghost of Tsushima got there first.
Still, this'll no doubt do well (unless Ubi can't help themselves, and fill the game with microtransaction nonsense - in that case, it'll still sell and review well, but there will be a whole lotta complainin' into the bargain).
It'll be interesting to see how it stacks up against Rise of the Ronin, another open-world stealth-action game set in the same time period. Being multiplatform will probably help Shadows' cause more than being restricted to PS5 helped Ronin's.
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