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Post by anthonyuk on Sept 7, 2022 22:53:28 GMT
The original got away with alot because it was showcasing alot of new tech nobody had seen before. So much new tech however that Ubisoft either forgot or ran out of time to actually fill the game world with meaningful things to do.
That said having your character reach for individual hand holds while climbing, automatically parkouring over the buildings so fluidly, even the dense crowds and how you moved through them was proper next gen stuff at the time.
That's what I miss, detailed world's from history I can wander and soak up the atmosphere while being a bad ass assassin.
I tried Origins recently again and got as far as my first camel ride and a few combat areas and turned it off. No sense of immersion, death by busy work icon along with god awful animation, mixed with all kinds of clipping and AI quirks going on.
When I've barely dipped my toe in the likes of Witcher 3 (waiting on this next gen version before starting again) I just don't see the point in these new janky 200 hour Assassins Creed RPG hybrids they've been throwing out, though clearly alot of people must love them.
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Post by MolarAm🔵 on Sept 7, 2022 23:13:07 GMT
I'm sure I've made a similar comparison before, but they're like videogame McDonald's. Not particularly nourishing, and you're not going to remember any specific helping you've had of it, but there's something comforting and familiar in knowing basically what you're going to get.
I remember reading some statistic about the many, many consoles that were only ever used to play the latest FIFA or Madden or whatever. It's like that.
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Post by Tuffty on Sept 7, 2022 23:18:21 GMT
I don't remember that reaction of the og AC being 'so bad' as you put it. I think you may have misremembered. It got quite good reviews actually, at the very least a 7/10.
It wasn't a buggy mess deserving of anything lower than a 5/10, as others said there were technical aspects about it that were great at the time, but it's got such a repetitive mission structure, bad AI, tedious combat. You're literally doing the exact same setup to an assassination kill each time, with the investigation involving pickpocketing and eavesdropping. The only saving grace is that it's fairly short, but if we're talking about just a visual remake for AC1 and nothing else, I will not be subjecting myself to doing it again.
I read from the leaks of the event next week that it will also reveal more DLC for Valhalla so there's clearly enough playing it that they feel justified to support making even more content for it. Think Valhalla is the best selling AC game ever. I'd be all over it if not for the fact that I was pretty much done playing it after 30 hrs nevermind the 70 I think it took for me to beat, without even doing all the side activities. |
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Post by Jambowayoh on Sept 10, 2022 20:41:14 GMT
Japan it is.
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Post by dfunked on Sept 10, 2022 20:46:29 GMT
So Infinite is just a hub rather than an actual title in itself.
Disappointed to see a return to annual AC titles, though. Plus the inevitable DLC for each and then of course the obvious reintroduction of older titles for a fee...
Although if they actually stick to smaller titles then I guess annual isn't too bad. Annual titles like Valhalla would just put me off for life!
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Post by Frog on Sept 10, 2022 20:56:10 GMT
I think they have realised that it's a bit too big, and will be scaling it back a little starting with Mirage.
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Post by One_Vurfed_Gwrx on Sept 10, 2022 22:34:37 GMT
Despite owning most AC games in one format of the other I never actually played any for any considerable amount of time until Odyssey, which I put over 100 hours into (plus the first DLC, but was all AC'd out before I finished the 2nd DLC, which I do plan to go back and finish one day). Oddly, I decided to actually play through the PC version of AC1 afterwards and despite some control peculiarities to get it working on a joypad, I generally enjoyed most of it. Started AC2 afterwards then got distracted again so...
It would still be nice to see some more unusual settings in the series though, such as the Khmer Empire and other lesser used settings. The length of the newer games is a bit intimidating in a time where I feel my gaming time is already massively limited.
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Post by paulyboy81 on Sept 10, 2022 23:45:38 GMT
Mirage sounds up my street. Smaller, more linear and stealth focused is basically most of my Assassin's Creed grievances tackled in one fell swoop.
Will be interesting to see how Code Red fares against Ghosts of Tsushima.
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Post by Blue_Mike on Sept 11, 2022 14:24:07 GMT
Mirage
Hexe
Red
Jade
Someone's claiming to have decoded a bunch of clues found in the Hexe trailer:
Sounds very much like Hexe is going to be set in 16th or 17th century Germany.
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Post by Aunt Alison on Sept 11, 2022 14:54:13 GMT
Are they compensating for scaling the games back by releasing 12 of them at a time?
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Post by 😎 on Sept 11, 2022 14:57:42 GMT
Red and Hexe are the first on the Infinity hub thing whatever it is. My guess is they’ll be significantly shorter experiences, and Hexe is supposed to be an entirely different genre, probably survival horror.
At least we have Mirage confirmed as a smaller experience by the price alone. Only $40 for the base game, $50 for the deluxe, no season pass or any other bollocks in sight.
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Post by Gruf on Sept 11, 2022 15:49:10 GMT
Create a huge world and pour an alphabet soup of icons over it. They need to exhibit some mystery to their worlds, take some vital lessons from Elden Ring. Even when I have got the recent AC's FREE I have not bothered to play them. Who has a 100+ hours spare to hunt icons?
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Post by dfunked on Sept 11, 2022 15:54:17 GMT
no season pass or any other bollocks in sight. ...yet. |
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Post by Blue_Mike on Sept 11, 2022 15:59:57 GMT
Been replaying Syndicate. A horse and cart suddenly leapt off the ground about 40 feet high, ragdolled in mid-air for a while, then came down to rest with the cart perched on the edge of a building and the horse standing there like it was completely normal.
10/10 for making me WTF-laugh.
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Post by Gruf on Sept 11, 2022 16:03:11 GMT
I take it back, so much mystery
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Post by Blue_Mike on Sept 12, 2022 1:08:36 GMT
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Post by One_Vurfed_Gwrx on Sept 12, 2022 6:23:11 GMT
I thought the 3 current console manufacturers didn't allow AO games on their systems...
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Post by mothercruncher on Sept 12, 2022 6:45:43 GMT
I got bored 10 seconds into the hooded GCSE essay level nonsense of the first video. Nobody learns, not the developers, not the customers. Stop enabling them guyz.
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Post by dfunked on Sept 12, 2022 6:53:57 GMT
Yeah, started watching the Mirage trailer and gave up after 30 seconds. Why they keep making these kind of trailers is beyond me.
Wake me up when theres some actual gameplay.
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Post by dfunked on Sept 12, 2022 6:57:19 GMT
I can't see the actual content being edgy enough for that rating, so I bet it's for the NFT nonsense they're currently peddling.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 12, 2022 7:00:57 GMT
I thought the 3 current console manufacturers didn't allow AO games on their systems... TBF, it started development long before the rating. It's now just up to Ubisoft to drive the rating down, or argue with ESRB about it. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 12, 2022 7:38:24 GMT
Seems to be because it involves gambling with actual money rather than loads of erections or anything like that.
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Post by dogbot on Sept 12, 2022 10:50:54 GMT
I got bored 10 seconds into the hooded GCSE essay level nonsense of the first video. Nobody learns, not the developers, not the customers. Stop enabling them guyz. "Stop enjoying things I don't!" |
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Post by Jambowayoh on Sept 12, 2022 15:56:50 GMT
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Post by mothercruncher on Sept 12, 2022 16:00:33 GMT
I got bored 10 seconds into the hooded GCSE essay level nonsense of the first video. Nobody learns, not the developers, not the customers. Stop enabling them guyz. "Stop enjoying things I don't!" That’s the thing- I DID, but that stopped years ago in the endless Groundhog Day cycle. They’re desperately trying to look like they’re selling something new while doing quite the opposite. If everyone *did* had an erect cock sticking out of their pants then that would at least be refreshing. |
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Post by dfunked on Sept 12, 2022 17:09:23 GMT
Quite clearly bullshit. The cynic in me thinks someone must've fucked up and sent out the version with the features that'll get turned on after launch. No you fool! This is the version we give to the censors and press!!!! |
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Post by anthonyuk on Sept 12, 2022 19:03:23 GMT
Has there been some kind of shift within Ubisoft, it's like they've lost their heads for a good few years now.
Their last big thing (correct me if I'm wrong) was Rainbow 6 Seige, which wiki tells me started life via a team of 25 people sent to pick the bones of Rainbow 6 Patriots which floundered in development hell due to changes in leadership, direction and technical shortcomings..sounds familiar.. Skull and Bones anyone?
You'd think these corporations might take stock and realise that if they actually leave the developers to do their job without interference, they can make some quality original games that people actually want to play.
Instead they're just trying to find newer ways of to rip off the players, regardless of how it fits within a game. Still blows my mind that people actually pay for FUT packs in Fifa.
Feels like in what appears to be a dry launch window for Ubi other than Skull & Bones and Division 2 DLC, repurposing DLC from Valhalla and putting actual real life gambling in there somehow is their goal. Then flog it as a full fat new game with a CGI trailer.
Adore the series, but my hype for this one is currently nill.
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Post by harrypalmer on Sept 13, 2022 8:27:18 GMT
Picked up Valhalla again after a year off, pleasantly surprised to find some free DLC to take me to the Isle of Skye! Which seems nice.
Absolutely love the setting and atmosphere of this game, and it looks gorgeous, it's probably my favourite in that regard, but there is just too much bloat. Saying that I hope this will be the first one I complete since 2.
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Post by dogbot on Sept 13, 2022 8:53:39 GMT
"Stop enjoying things I don't!" That’s the thing- I DID, but that stopped years ago in the endless Groundhog Day cycle. They’re desperately trying to look like they’re selling something new while doing quite the opposite. If everyone *did* had an erect cock sticking out of their pants then that would at least be refreshing. Don't get me wrong, I do understand what you mean. The problem with this sort of thing and FIFA and all these other games that do this iterative repetition is that it apparently works for some/lots of people (perhaps "enough people to keep it profitable" is the important bit here) and it's easy money for the big houses like Ubi. I'm sure that at some level they care about innovation and making good games, but at the levels that make the decisions, they just see profit. Whilst all that is the case, it seems unlikely that the players will stop if they enjoy the games and the company will stop if they make money. I'd love them to do something genuinely innovative with the series, but I'll settle for some games I enjoy - and these do suit my tastes. I appreciate that makes me part of the problem. |
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Post by 😎 on Sept 20, 2022 0:22:13 GMT
I just polished off 3. Actually the first time I played it, somehow I jumped from 2 straight through to 4 when things were released, so Brotherhood and Revelations were new to me too. So that's the Desmond storyline done. Think I preferred 3 overall, even though the final third felt super rushed and the various side bits were prototypes for better things - I didn't bother with any of it, really. A couple of naval missions, but aside from that no hunting, no homestead building, no trading or crafting, didn't bother with anything other than running through the main quest. But it felt more connected with the history (at least the family friendly binary good guys/bad guys take on it) than other ones, which felt a bit "and also here's this famous person!" rather than something tying in to the actual history.
Now onto 4, which I'll probably spend more time in the side quests on as sailing the ship around is fun. Then Unity, which I've also never touched before.
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