robthehermit
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Post by robthehermit on Apr 28, 2022 14:15:30 GMT
I've been in my current job for 16 years, the job I had previously I was in for 15 until I got made redundant with a 5 hours notice.
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Post by Vortex on Apr 28, 2022 14:18:49 GMT
I had my 25yr work anniversary last year. There's a do for us old timers and a presentation in a few weeks.
I expect them to finally pass me my p45 for spending too much on EG/here then.
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Post by Zuluhero on Apr 28, 2022 14:24:10 GMT
I'm totally trapped by the need for security, mortgage, kids, especially as my partner doesn't work.
Been at my current place for nearly 8 years, but lots of people leaving my place of work, and am approached daily by recruiters, which makes me think its time to move on too, but I am so risk adverse.
I know there is loads of exciting new stuff and a demand for people, but I'm so stuck in the mindset of better the devil you know and the thought of failing any prospective probation period fills me dread.
If my partner worked and could offset things it would be more of a safety net, but as things stand I just couldn't risk it.
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Post by anephric on Apr 28, 2022 16:04:55 GMT
I've jumped before for more money, but the current job is absolutely horrible and the people/place pretty toxic, but I'd need to earn the same or more somewhere else now, which isn't easy, for me anyhoo, where I live.
Job before was profoundly more satisfying and I got on with everyone and was very good at it, but there was never going to be significantly more money.
Job satisfaction does tick a big box, but with life being as profoundly expensive as it is, I've resigned myself to being miserable until retirement now as I'm too old to start again.
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Post by Dougs on Apr 28, 2022 20:32:54 GMT
Yeah, 26 years in the civil service for me this year. I changed jobs quite a lot when younger, eager to get on and gain promotion etc, get payrises etc. But I've been in my current role for 5 years nearly and the wider sector for nearly 20. Which I like, I know the stakeholders, the work etc backwards. I'm not sure I can be arsed to start again in another policy area. Just depends if there's a role for me towards the end of the year when I really should think about changing jobs.
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Post by Danno on Apr 28, 2022 20:39:35 GMT
Yeah, 26 years in the civil service for me this year. I changed jobs quite a lot when younger, eager to get on and gain promotion etc, get payrises etc. But I've been in my current role for 5 years nearly and the wider sector for nearly 20. Which I like, I know the stakeholders, the work etc backwards. I'm not sure I can be arsed to start again in another policy area. Just depends if there's a role for me towards the end of the year when I really should think about changing jobs. Are you in policy itself? I assume not or you'd be schmoozing around departments as you please (almost) based on how 3 of my former colleagues and now friends get around |
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Post by Dougs on Apr 28, 2022 20:43:56 GMT
I am and have been for the last 20 years. I really like the policy areas of my current department. I like being the font of institutional knowledge too, it stokes my ego.
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Post by anephric on Apr 28, 2022 21:08:18 GMT
All my experience/skills worth a shit are operational/investigational, so the only place I can really go is coppers, which pay fuck all comparatively and I'm far too old to want to give that a go at this stage, even though I know someone only slightly younger who went straight in as an inspector.
I know a few coppers and the ones that haven't quit all say you'd be mental to want to do it as a career now.
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Post by brokenkey on Apr 28, 2022 21:49:58 GMT
Have you considered a career in cyber?
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Post by Tomo on Apr 28, 2022 23:13:20 GMT
I moved jobs about 6 months ago, from one that I really enjoyed but with deeply limited career options. But sadly I'm finding my current job a real chore. I've gone from programming, data analysis and problem solving to a fraction of that plus a whole bunch of meetings, bureaucracy and seemingly project management. The latter, as anticipated, given how much I avoided it previously, is not fun.
Keep telling myself the kinks will iron out and the enjoyment from the first few months will return, but it's hard going against the tedium at the moment :/
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Post by brokenkey on Apr 29, 2022 9:27:53 GMT
I'm thinking I might become a driving instructor. Based on my son's, it looks like you never actually have to turn up.
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Post by askew on Apr 29, 2022 9:41:46 GMT
Have you considered a career in cyber? I'm cybering right now |
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Post by patrick on Apr 29, 2022 9:49:50 GMT
I'm on an 8 month-ish countdown to my site closing. Got a whopping 25p pay-rise above minimum wage last week(down from 27p). They sure know how to treat us!
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Post by Aunt Alison on Apr 29, 2022 10:38:03 GMT
Have you considered a career in cyber? I'm cybering right now That's a pretty horrifying post given your new avatar |
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Post by anephric on Apr 29, 2022 11:28:11 GMT
If you mean cyber crime:
a) I applied a while ago for a couple of jobs in special online investigation units and intelligence sections. You would not believe how underpaid they are for incredibly stressful and disturbing work (eg child porn, human trafficking, anti-terrorism). There was a documentary on the BBC a while ago that was representative for the online child abuse units, it's a miserable, miserable job.
b) they're so under-resourced and ill-equipped every day would be a nightmare.
So no, I knocked that one on the head, and I'm not qualified for anything more high-flying than that.
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Post by Dougs on Apr 29, 2022 11:40:40 GMT
I couldn't so it. The amount of support and counselling they must need just to stay remotely sane.
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Post by anephric on Apr 29, 2022 11:48:02 GMT
In six years of attending fatalities, I was offered proper counselling only once and that was after a mass fatality.
To be fair, I didn't think I ever really needed it. Accidents and to a lesser extent suicides are a whole world less disturbing than sexual crimes and murders etc. In investigations I was part of where people got killed or maimed, there was no malice etc, it was human error, negligence, equipment failure. It's a whole different ball game to go from that to paedos and child abuse imagery etc.
One special ops unit I applied for was that all day, every day for £30k a year. Those are the payscales currently (for a forensics tech ops officer, which you need a tonne of police competencies for). It's not worth it.
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Post by Dougs on Apr 29, 2022 11:52:14 GMT
Yeah, in a previous role I dealt with internet policy issues so had to work with key stakeholders on a lot of that and they made it very clear how traumatic it was. Pitiful salary, definitely not worth it.
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Post by Danno on May 2, 2022 23:07:00 GMT
I've got 7 working days left at this place. They're putting the pressure on for timesheets and shit. "Done by 3rd of March or else" and such
Got a team meeting first thing tomorrow. I also have 6 days of annual leave. I might be giving them the finger.
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Post by 😎 on May 2, 2022 23:39:28 GMT
Bit late if they’re expecting them by 3rd of March
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Post by Danno on May 3, 2022 0:53:15 GMT
Bit late if they’re expecting them by 3rd of March ha, indeed. |
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Post by Lizard on May 3, 2022 2:23:52 GMT
Got COVID, still had to do four calls today because I'm the only person that can answer questions/make decisions on certain pieces of work with hard deadlines.
I'm on a secondment to a senior position which should be made permanent in the next couple of weeks. I'm going fucking hardball in my pay negotiation.
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Post by Sarfrin on May 6, 2022 22:15:11 GMT
deekyfun I totally get where you are. I spent more than 20 years out of uni in the same career and then the place I worked got closed down. I spent a few more years working for the same boss somewhere else but it just didn't work out. The good news is that 8 or so years after that I'm doing fine in an entirely new career. You'll get through this too. You know what you're doing.
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Post by deekyfun on May 7, 2022 6:35:02 GMT
Thanks, I appreciate it.
As the notice period ticks down I do think I'm subconsciously starting to relax a bit and get used to the idea of moving on. Its one of those situations where you maybe didn't even realise how stressed you were because that state has been the norm for so long, but now I know there's a final day I can feel the tension easing, though two months notice is way too long.
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Post by Bongo Heracles on May 7, 2022 6:54:43 GMT
In six years of attending fatalities, I was offered proper counselling only once and that was after a mass fatality. To be fair, I didn't think I ever really needed it. Accidents and to a lesser extent suicides are a whole world less disturbing than sexual crimes and murders etc. In investigations I was part of where people got killed or maimed, there was no malice etc, it was human error, negligence, equipment failure. It's a whole different ball game to go from that to paedos and child abuse imagery etc. One special ops unit I applied for was that all day, every day for £30k a year. Those are the payscales currently (for a forensics tech ops officer, which you need a tonne of police competencies for). It's not worth it. I do this (among other things) in finance and don’t earn badly. PWC are always looking for people on lots of money. HMRC and the dole office are always looking but, yeah, less cash. It’s funny (or not). I’ve been on cyber forensics course with coppers who have said some horrible shit. Like having to burn all of their kids furniture because it was the same as a nonce had in his *whole* house. My most exciting war story was catching someone in the take from China and I never left my desk. |
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Post by dmukgr on May 7, 2022 7:47:00 GMT
Can you do that thing where you magnify someone’s eyeball to see the villain in their eyeballs reflection, or a car number plate, before some funky music kicks in? Do that and I bet you’ll get a few bob more a week take home.
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Post by Bongo Heracles on May 7, 2022 8:02:21 GMT
I have described my job as ‘you know CSI Miami? Well, I’m the guy who gets left in the lab while everyone else is having a car chase’
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Post by Jambowayoh on May 7, 2022 8:09:45 GMT
Do you get to "rotate, rotate, ENHANCE!"?
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Post by anephric on May 7, 2022 8:22:06 GMT
There's absolutely no one in this neck of the woods, apart from the police and DWP/HMRC (I used to know people who worked in their fraud investigation service) who have had jobs going, and I'm not taking a ten grand paycut to do a fairly shitty job.
FIS in particular is fucking wank.
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Post by dam on May 7, 2022 9:00:50 GMT
I thought cyber security was quite well paid. Wish someone had told me, I've just given up my ballet dancing career to give it a go.
My wife's cousin has certainly done well out of it, has sold a couple of companies for megabucks.
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