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Post by zisssou on Jun 17, 2024 18:36:12 GMT
Hope you guys wanted more Rey because you’re getting more Rey.
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Post by zephro on Jun 17, 2024 18:52:34 GMT
Rey was good. Up until Rise of made the whole sequel trilogy painfully awful.
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Post by Vandelay on Jun 17, 2024 19:05:21 GMT
Yeah, I don't have an issue with more Rey, as long as the writing is good. Even if Awakens was just fine, it's highlight was ensembling a great cast of new characters. As for Ridley, Abrams might not be a great writer or director, but he does seem to cast well.
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Post by simple on Jun 17, 2024 19:58:53 GMT
I liked all the new characters.
It was a pity a lot of them ended up either going nowhere or were just proxies for previous roles, but the casting and characters themselves were decent.
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Post by Reviewer on Jun 17, 2024 20:06:46 GMT
Rise of Skywalker is the only Star Wars film that I’ve only watched once, it was atrocious. Even Solo was alright in comparison, just really pointless and also a wasted opportunity.
TLJ was good, although hamstring a little by what it already had to work with. FA was what I’d expect from someone if they were told to make Star Wars but ’modern’, so everyone shouting and things going fast and try to avoid anything too different to before.
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Post by Bill in the rain on Jun 18, 2024 2:03:40 GMT
I want more Finn and Rose!
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Post by Bill in the rain on Jun 18, 2024 6:04:31 GMT
Actually, the thing that would have been most interesting to follow up on from the new Trilogy would have been Adam Driver as a post-First-Order Ben Solo, but RoS screwed that up, along with almost everything else.
Just because he's a good actor and a kinda interesting character. Or was.
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Post by Whizzo on Jun 18, 2024 10:03:32 GMT
Imagine someone who went to a midnight screening of Rise of Skywalker and left the cinema in the early hours of a Thursday morning wondering just what the fuck that was?
/waves
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Post by Vandelay on Jun 18, 2024 10:09:29 GMT
/also waves
I wasn't too down on it heading back home at 2.30am (likely because I was both exhausted and it was the start of my Christmas holidays), but it didn't take much more than 24 hours to really realise what a mess of a film it was.
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Post by Whizzo on Jun 18, 2024 10:13:11 GMT
The only similar experience was I had an afternoon off work when The Phantom Menace came out so saw the first screening I could. I then saw it again with a friend the following day as he'd wanted to see it and I warned him in advance not to get his hopes up.
It didn't improve on second viewing.
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Post by Bill in the rain on Jun 18, 2024 10:22:46 GMT
I came out of The Phantom Menace kinda hyped. It was only really on repeat viewings that I realised how bad it was. On first viewing, at a big cinema in London, with a big group of mates, the excitement of a new SW movie, the special effects, the music and the lightsaber duels were enough that I didn't really notice the flaws as I was surfing on a wave of excitement. Rise of Skywalker was kinda exciting, due to the none-stop pace and good sfx, but every 5 minutes I was going 'why?  ?  ' |
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Post by Vandelay on Jun 18, 2024 10:52:24 GMT
I'm a bit younger than most here and was around the ideal age for The Phantom Menace, being 11. I liked it a lot, without any real caveats at the time. I was also probably still on the Star Wars high, as I only watched the originals for the first time a couple of years before with the Special Edition releases.
Obviously, a few years on the shine wore off. Having said that, it was probably only when I was about 19 and actually started watching good films (I was pretty late getting into films, to be honest) did I see how terrible the Prequels were. The Phantom Menace is easily the best of them though.
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Post by baihu1983 on Jun 18, 2024 10:55:49 GMT
Episode 1 is alright. Way better than attack of the clones.
8 and 9 are just dreadful.
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Post by Whizzo on Jun 18, 2024 11:30:59 GMT
If I wanted to watch something concerning a trade federation and separatist wars in the nineties there was more than plenty of that happening on the news at the time.
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Post by Saul1138 on Jun 19, 2024 8:37:31 GMT
I remember walking out of TPM, saw another showing was starting forty minutes later. Got a ticket and loved it, despite its faults. It is still the best of the prequels.
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Post by Binky on Jun 19, 2024 8:46:54 GMT
I remember walking out of TPM, saw another showing was starting forty minutes later. Got a ticket and loved it, despite its faults. It is still the best of the prequels. I had to read that a few times. I thought you meant you walked out disgusted and then quickly thought - nah, I better try again. I remember being quite excited after coming out of a midnight screening for TPM. The first shot of a lightsaber penetrating metal was enough to carry me through the boring bits at the time. The podracing, and duel of fates were all fantastic to see on the big screen. |
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Post by gamingdave on Jun 19, 2024 8:56:09 GMT
I really enjoyed TPM when it came out - and still think it's a good entry in the series and better than the TLJ and TROS. Outside of the OT it's the one I have watched the most, I doubt I will ever watch TROS again.
Having watched them all with the kids, it's also one they really like.
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Post by Bill in the rain on Jun 19, 2024 9:06:43 GMT
It's Parts of it are pretty dire in the cold light of day. The dialog and 'acting' is like nails on a chalkboard.
My kids got pretty into the OT, despite its age, but TPH was enough to put my daughter off the entire franchise. I couldn't persuade her to watch any others of the prequels. Just about got her back on board for Force Awakens, Last Jedi and Rogue One. But it took a lot of persuasion.
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Post by simple on Jun 19, 2024 9:09:11 GMT
I think TPM is probably the closest in spirit to the original films in that its the only one thats a a family adventure romp. The rest for all their positives and negatives are trying to lean onto the audience that Star Wars is weighty and important and you should take it seriously.
Obviously plenty of holes you can pick in TPM it is an attempt at doing a boys own adventure in space
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Post by Bongo Heracles on Jun 19, 2024 9:18:58 GMT
Yeah, TPM and ROTJ are bookends. It did always confuse me that the phantom menace got so hammered when its so tonally similar to the film that preceded it.
Its why, whisper it, Solo is probably the most Star Wars of the new stuff.
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Post by starchildhypocrethes on Jun 19, 2024 9:22:41 GMT
Jar Jar / Midichorians / Trade nonsense aside, TPMs main issue is its complete reliance on 90s CGI, as it looks fucking dreadful these days.
That climatic fight at the end looks like the FMV intro to a dodgy RTS from the same period.
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Post by Bongo Heracles on Jun 19, 2024 9:35:57 GMT
I actually quite enjoyed it when I saw it at the cinema a few weeks ago. Watched through a wanky ironic lens, a lot of it is actually quite good fun.
The casual racism, Portman swapping about, the stupid kid, He's got a bad feeling about this.... its almost endearing now.
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Post by paulyboy81 on Jun 19, 2024 9:39:44 GMT
Totally unimportant and a bit of an old bastard thing to moan about, but The Phantom Menace was the only one of the prequels that actually *looked* decent as well. Actually shot on film with plenty of location work and great cinematography, it looks like a proper film.
The other two have that decidedly early doors digital veneer about them that I can't stand, they also don't look like they ever left a soundstage. Save for the actors they might as well be animated films for the most part.
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Post by Blue_Mike on Jun 19, 2024 9:42:49 GMT
If I was to rewatch Phantom Menace now, I think I'd just spend half of it feeling really sorry for the child Jake Lloyd, knowing his life was going to go down the shitter so completely after it.
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Post by LegendaryApe on Jun 19, 2024 10:01:39 GMT
Yes, but Keira Knightly was in it.
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Post by Bongo Heracles on Jun 19, 2024 10:01:53 GMT
Yeah, and Ahmed Best. Jar Jar is still the worst thing about it by an absolute mile. Every scene with him in it is borderline unwatchable.
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Post by rhaegyr on Jun 19, 2024 10:02:20 GMT
My lasting memory is still that incredible poster.
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Post by simple on Jun 19, 2024 10:04:17 GMT
Peter Serafinowicz has a very funny take on TPM in an old episode of Richard Herring’s podcast Edit: this should be it but I can’t listen to check at work youtu.be/t0wHqNi3x5M |
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Post by TheSaint on Jun 19, 2024 10:29:54 GMT
My lasting memory is still that incredible poster. The trailer was amazing as well. |
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Post by Whizzo on Jun 19, 2024 12:27:37 GMT
If anyone hasn't started watching The Acolyte yet I would urge just waiting for it all to be available to binge, the pacing of the show is fucking awful and today's episode is less than 30 minutes (once you ignore the titles and credits) but feels so much longer with most of it being meandering tedium and then things actually happen in the last few minutes and ends just as it gets interesting . It should have been a TV movie. |
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