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Post by wunty on Jun 9, 2023 9:53:30 GMT
Maybe this should be the lighting of the touchpaper to stamp this shit out once and for all then. Appropriate that it should start with a band known for starting fires. Either way I'm following it to see what else comes out. I've not burned my R+ vinyl yet.
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Post by Jambowayoh on Jun 9, 2023 9:53:53 GMT
That statement was a hard read. I've no doubt there is truth there but like anything, we have one side of a story here, and not even a first hand account at that. I do still believe BG is a massive cunt mind you and if it all played out exactly as stated there then that is horrendous, but there would surely be contracts and legalities involved in the share of profits from recordings etc and it's never as straight forward as two in the band just suddenly refusing profits to another founding member. Either way I've never been a fan of PS and Gillespie is a cockend either way. Yeah I'm of that mindset.
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Post by wunty on Jun 9, 2023 10:00:00 GMT
The whole situation is just tawdry and nasty regardless of anything illegal. Even if there was no spiking and nothing done without consent, it’s still all pretty fucking dirty. It’s still an abuse of power and position to have impressionable young women sleeping with you. Oh it's very seedy. It probably shouldn't be seen as totally fine in this day and age but I suspect it's pretty common, but they're hardly the first or only band to act in such a way and on the scale of nastiness I've heard rumours and stories of much worse behaviour. The Warped Tour, for example. All of which is to say, I don't support this behaviour but if we're going to condemn one band there wouldn't be many bands left to like. Also, just because it happens elsewhere doesn't make it any better. Rammstein are bigger than ever before and have massive influence. None of this is in any way okay.
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Post by wunty on Jun 9, 2023 10:01:10 GMT
Anyway, I'm going from Rammstein into Rant-stein. So I'll say no more until I know more. Like I say, I'd rather nothing untowards happened and everyone was super happy, but it is what it is.
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Post by geefe on Jun 9, 2023 10:01:57 GMT
Would we feel comfortable if he just sort of said at the end of the gig "if you fancy a shag, be at this door in 30?"
Makes it fair and honest then.
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Post by anthonyuk on Jun 9, 2023 10:04:44 GMT
The Rammstein thing is absolutely grim.
Taking young impressionable female fans, segregating them, plying them with booze while being assured it's "it's not a sex thing" before being put in a small room alone out of sight for sex.
How many young fans in that situation would say no? Just a total absuse of power. Sure he's stopped when told no, but then reacting angry/aggressive in the process.. Which just kind of reinforces how calculated the whole thing is, by carefully making it "not quite rape" while funneling girls into an almost impossible position where very few would actually say no.
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Post by Jambowayoh on Jun 9, 2023 10:04:53 GMT
Would we feel comfortable if he just sort of said at the end of the gig "if you fancy a shag, be at this door in 30?" Makes it fair and honest then. I think this what Russell Brand used to say at the end of a show. I'm amazed nothing has come out about him because stuff most likely exists. Also I think Matt Healy of The 1977 does this, asking if anyone wants to kiss him on stage, it's still really skeevy.
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Post by kal on Jun 9, 2023 10:22:46 GMT
Brand did get called out for being ‘rapey wapey’ once but nothing came of it.
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Post by geefe on Jun 9, 2023 10:52:31 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Jun 9, 2023 10:59:44 GMT
Anyway, I'm going from Rammstein into Rant-stein. Ergh, wunty needs to be cancelled.
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Post by Youthist on Jun 9, 2023 11:00:26 GMT
Would we feel comfortable if he just sort of said at the end of the gig "if you fancy a shag, be at this door in 30?" Makes it fair and honest then. I think this what Russell Brand used to say at the end of a show. I'm amazed nothing has come out about him because stuff most likely exists. Also I think Matt Healy of The 1977 does this, asking if anyone wants to kiss him on stage, it's still really skeevy. I rather enjoyed N Gallaghers (the lesser cunt of the brothers) “Slack-Jawed fuckwit” insult to Healy recently.
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Post by wunty on Jun 9, 2023 11:09:26 GMT
Anyway, I'm going from Rammstein into Rant-stein. Ergh, wunty needs to be cancelled. Don’t act like you’re not impressed
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Post by cubby on Jun 9, 2023 11:12:48 GMT
Remember when we all thought they were called Rammstain?
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Post by Deleted on Jun 9, 2023 11:13:54 GMT
I think this what Russell Brand used to say at the end of a show. I'm amazed nothing has come out about him because stuff most likely exists. Also I think Matt Healy of The 1977 does this, asking if anyone wants to kiss him on stage, it's still really skeevy. I rather enjoyed N Gallaghers (the lesser cunt of the brothers) “Slack-Jawed fuckwit” insult to Healy recently. That's an outrageous slur against Noel. He and his brother are both world class shit thick scum. Noel can casually hold his own against any other complete fucking cunt you care to name, domestic or international. If anything they constantly inspire each other to previously unimagined levels of absolute twatting wankery. Recognise the skills.
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Post by Youthist on Jun 9, 2023 11:18:47 GMT
He is the lesser - but it’s close of course. But Liam is special.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 9, 2023 11:30:28 GMT
He is the lesser - but it’s close of course. But Liam is special. Okay, as long as it's clear that either one of them could walk into any band of fucking tools anywhere in the world, and still be the biggest cunt by far.
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Post by Lukus on Jun 9, 2023 11:33:54 GMT
If any of you wanna kiss I'll be standing outside your windows all day.
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Post by wunty on Jun 9, 2023 11:37:15 GMT
Remember when we all thought they were called Rammstain? The thing is cubby, is that falling through the bar is a much more concise joke regarding less setup and arguably possessing a payoff that's greater than the chandelier. It's an excellent piece of physical comedy not just from David Jason, but also Roger Lloyd Pack.
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Post by Dougs on Jun 9, 2023 11:52:07 GMT
It was also Margate they went to on their Jolly Boy's Outing, not Ramsgate.
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Post by dogbot on Jun 9, 2023 12:08:30 GMT
If any of you wanna kiss I'll be standing outside your windows all day. I just looked out of the window and I am now (understandably) disappointed. 😞
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Post by wunty on Jun 9, 2023 12:17:35 GMT
I'm just confused. The guy I leaned out to kiss has never even heard of this place.
Didn't complain mind.
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Post by baihu1983 on Jun 9, 2023 12:18:32 GMT
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Post by Jambowayoh on Jun 9, 2023 12:27:11 GMT
I don't know who this person is.
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Post by wunty on Jun 9, 2023 12:30:33 GMT
It's Colleen Ballinger.
You know. Colleen Ballinger.
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Post by cubby on Jun 9, 2023 12:40:44 GMT
All you need to know is that you should hate her. HATE HER.
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Post by dfunked on Jun 9, 2023 12:41:09 GMT
She's a YouTuber known for her character Miranda Sings.
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Post by Gruf on Jun 9, 2023 12:42:53 GMT
Oh, Haters Back Off, a couple of seasons on Netflix, which I quite liked.
Might explain why there has not been another season, or you know, Netflix will Netflix
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Post by Jambowayoh on Jun 9, 2023 12:50:23 GMT
All you need to know is that you should hate her. HATE HER. Ahhh, I see. Would me not knowing that she exists count or do I explicitly had to have heard of her?
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Post by drhickman1983 on Jun 9, 2023 12:51:13 GMT
Still non the wiser.
All these YouTube types confuse me. I try to keep up but I'm basically out of touch and decrepit.
On the other hand I guess I'm glad I didn't know her because now I don't feel conflicted by her noncy grooming behaviour.
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Post by Aunt Alison on Jun 9, 2023 13:00:16 GMT
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