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Post by simple on Sept 19, 2023 14:44:17 GMT
Just bumping this because it really is a properly considered piece about all of this without being lost to news cycle noise. I dread to think what I would have been saying online around then considering I’d been on games forums since playing Quake 2 multiplayer and posted on indie and metal forums during the 00s. I wasn’t an edgy guy by any stretch but I’m guessing any jokes I made would need thousand word disclaimers about the context of those sites now. |
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Post by alastair on Sept 19, 2023 14:46:55 GMT
Didn’t the American Pie films come out in that era also? That was pretty much promoting sex to teens Umm, so Porkys came out in 1981. Teen sex films are nothing new. |
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Post by Ulythium on Sept 19, 2023 14:51:58 GMT
Plus it's not as though teens need to have sex promoted to them in the first place!
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Post by simple on Sept 19, 2023 14:52:17 GMT
I feel like theres a bracket needs to be drawn around 98-01 when it comes to that whole American Pie, Jackass, South Park nu-metal, pop-punk bubble because its very distinct from what came before and after it. Even when the same bands and people are involved. If you see any cultural product from then you can tell immediately.
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Post by askew on Sept 19, 2023 14:53:03 GMT
Just bumping this because it really is a properly considered piece about all of this without being lost to news cycle noise. I dread to think what I would have been saying online around then considering I’d been on games forums since playing Quake 2 multiplayer and posted on indie and metal forums during the 00s. I wasn’t an edgy guy by any stretch but I’m guessing any jokes I made would need thousand word disclaimers about the context of those sites now. At sixth-form I had a T-shirt featuring a figure carrying a length of lumber, with the caption "Got wood". |
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Post by simple on Sept 19, 2023 14:58:38 GMT
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Post by geefe on Sept 19, 2023 15:18:05 GMT
I feel like theres a bracket needs to be drawn around 98-01 when it comes to that whole American Pie, Jackass, South Park nu-metal, pop-punk bubble because its very distinct from what came before and after it. Even when the same bands and people are involved. If you see any cultural product from then you can tell immediately. Absolutely this. It was a very specific Y2K centric period and this is why I always point to 9/11 being a massive end point for the cultural 90s and 20th century. I think it sent a lot of things in a very different direction to where they were originally going. |
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Post by Onny on Sept 19, 2023 15:42:43 GMT
QOTSA, The Strokes, White Stripes, Kings Of Leon, Yeah Yeah Yeahs.. many good bands either started or rose to popularity in the 00s.
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Post by alastair on Sept 19, 2023 15:51:00 GMT
True. I very much enjoyed Is This It back in 2002.
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Post by kal on Sept 19, 2023 16:15:53 GMT
I think geefe might be onto something with his theory that 9/11 had a really big impact on the world. Worth considering.
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Post by rawshark on Sept 19, 2023 16:21:54 GMT
It also gave us four Radiohead albums. More than any other decade.
A couple of them were even good.
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Post by KD on Sept 19, 2023 16:25:33 GMT
I think we hit the quota for old men yelling at clouds.
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Post by Ulythium on Sept 19, 2023 16:38:22 GMT
All this '90s indie talk has left me with 'Good Enough' by Dodgy running through my head for the past hour. So... yeah. Thanks for that!
Yes, the decade in question furnished us with some utter bilge, but there were high points as well:
- The four best Manics albums
- Two superb Radiohead albums
- The two best Weezer albums
- Pulp getting some deserved recognition at long last
- Mogwai's first two albums
- Four amazing Sonic Youth albums
I could go on, but this post has only served to derail the thread further still.
That Russell Brand fellow, eh? What a cunt.
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Post by kingbambino on Sept 19, 2023 16:41:03 GMT
Didn’t the American Pie films come out in that era also? That was pretty much promoting sex to teens Umm, so Porkys came out in 1981. Teen sex films are nothing new. Porky’s was an 18 when it came out whereas American Pie was a 15. But yeah still high school naughtiness |
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Post by grey_matters on Sept 19, 2023 17:35:22 GMT
I think we hit the quota for old men yelling at clouds. Nope. The 2020s will be remembered as peak _old men yelling at clouds_ time. We're only gettimg warmed up. |
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Post by Danno on Sept 19, 2023 17:37:49 GMT
I think we hit the quota for old men yelling at clouds. Nope. The 2020s will be remembered as peak _old men yelling at clouds_ time. We're only gettimg warmed up. Oh thank god, it's freezing in 'ere |
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Post by reddevil93 on Sept 19, 2023 17:43:41 GMT
Umm, so Porkys came out in 1981. Teen sex films are nothing new. Porky’s was an 18 when it came out whereas American Pie was a 15. But yeah still high school naughtiness I’d assume the main issue with American Pie if it was released now, would be the main protagonist covertly streaming his classmate getting naked, rather than the general teen bonking. |
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Post by cubby on Sept 19, 2023 17:45:15 GMT
I only just learnt that 9/11 was the reason Frasier started declining in quality, so I'm jumping on the 9/11 was bad train.
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Post by zephro on Sept 19, 2023 17:48:58 GMT
Probably as I went to Uni in 2003, but I remember that being all about Franz Ferdinand, Blok Party, PJ Harvey, White Stripes, Yeah Yeah Yeahs, Interpol, Arcade Fire, so it was pretty good. Then again the 90s had Pulp and Portishead so kinda wins.
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Post by sport✅ on Sept 19, 2023 18:25:32 GMT
Think everyone underestimates the impact that Y2K had. 90s was full of optimistism until that hit.
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Post by askew on Sept 19, 2023 18:36:19 GMT
I was very optimistic about my school trip to the Millenium Dome.
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Post by clemfandango on Sept 19, 2023 18:54:39 GMT
Probably as I went to Uni in 2003, but I remember that being all about Franz Ferdinand, Blok Party, PJ Harvey, White Stripes, Yeah Yeah Yeahs, Interpol, Arcade Fire, so it was pretty good. Then again the 90s had Pulp and Portishead so kinda wins. Pj Harvey was all about the 90s The rest are okay, but that is a very small list when you look at the uk and USA stuff of the 90s |
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Post by freddiemercurystwin on Sept 19, 2023 19:05:32 GMT
On 9/11 my Boss at the time had the fortitude to tell us to all (about 25 of us) to go home for the day and watch the news as he already realised the ramifications would be extraordinary.
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Post by cubby on Sept 19, 2023 19:09:55 GMT
I know someone whose boss did the same.
Admittedly they did work in the world trade center at the time.
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Post by freddiemercurystwin on Sept 19, 2023 19:19:38 GMT
I remember ab-libbing an extremely distasteful version of the theme tune to Are You Being Served at the time before we were sent home, with an American (previous New York resident) colleague sat in the office I might add. We used to look down on the street during the summer for any decent cleavages and there were several ladies with nicknames who we would glare at if spotted walking past the office, I think it's fair to say I was well and truly invested in the whole sordid attitude/outlook to things at the time. I'm ashamed to admit I was part of the problem rather than the solution.
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Post by Jambowayoh on Sept 19, 2023 19:27:51 GMT
I think geefe might be onto something with his theory that 9/11 had a really big impact on the world. Worth considering. Ha, you little bitch. |
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Post by Jambowayoh on Sept 19, 2023 19:30:58 GMT
Just bumping this because it really is a properly considered piece about all of this without being lost to news cycle noise. I dread to think what I would have been saying online around then considering I’d been on games forums since playing Quake 2 multiplayer and posted on indie and metal forums during the 00s. I wasn’t an edgy guy by any stretch but I’m guessing any jokes I made would need thousand word disclaimers about the context of those sites now. You know when she talked about Zoo and Nuts and Danny Dyer having a column in one of them, I had completely forgotten about that but it came back vividly when she recounted his advice of cutting an ex's face with a knife so no one will want her. It really was quite a nasty time all prefaced with "it's a joke!" |
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Post by kal on Sept 19, 2023 19:39:46 GMT
Interestingly Andrew Neil and The Spectator have gone in pretty hard on Brand.
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Post by rawshark on Sept 19, 2023 20:00:00 GMT
Just bumping this because it really is a properly considered piece about all of this without being lost to news cycle noise. I dread to think what I would have been saying online around then considering I’d been on games forums since playing Quake 2 multiplayer and posted on indie and metal forums during the 00s. I wasn’t an edgy guy by any stretch but I’m guessing any jokes I made would need thousand word disclaimers about the context of those sites now. You know when she talked about Zoo and Nuts and Danny Dyer having a column in one of them, I had completely forgotten about that but it came back vividly when she recounted his advice of cutting an ex's face with a knife so no one will want her. It really was quite a nasty time all prefaced with "it's a joke!" I remember that well. Even at the time it was too much and Dyer got sacked. But what was surprising was just how quick people were to forget… he might have lost the chicken feed he got for that column but he still got his job on Eastenders and still ended up presenting prime time Saturday evening game shows on BBC One. |
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Post by Jambowayoh on Sept 19, 2023 20:01:42 GMT
NATIONAL TREASURE
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